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[Painindaback]

Never trust stats they lie lol, just answer me this, how does my wolf with 95k patk do 187869 dmg (non-crit) to a main with 70k pdef when my wolf is not hurt with a skill of 140%, while my main can only do 87k (crit) with 92k patk with a skill of 210%

even if you say cuz it's buffed okay sure 95k x 1.18(18% dragon fury) x 1.18 (18% valiant banner) = 132k x 1.4(140% blood frenzy) - 70k pdef = 115k

Now turn 115k into 188k dmg for me please

Without King o'bone it's 145%, with king is 140%. Most teamwork skills are bugged in this way. And did you count the bonus from Angel Halo and the + ATK from the skill? Without the halo it gets to about 182k. Ah nvm, just noticed you said non-crit. Well, I guess there's some kind of bug with claws, no other explanation. It basically does ~50% higher damage I guess.. maybe the developers should tone it down.

[qingyunjian]

The growth from main is a lot higher, the claws/kob shows with higher br only cause of element growth br, without it the main has way more stats (defense, attack, hp, block, dodge). I don't know where you played before, but as a berserk looking at the screen, a wolf with only 4 rebirths and around lvl 70 is weaker than a berserker character, i cannot post screen with same gears right now cause he cant equip the 70 gears if i unequip, but in 1 week i can post it.

The ammount alexxandria spent is not important, its just to show a guy who has no BR at all in his heroes, his phantom has 70k br and the others have 20k/30k only. His char is strong enough to take the damage from heroes, main, angels, etc. All you can see in your videos is that you rely on your char + 1 claws. That's what people should do - 1 char + 1 hero. Any hero if very well geared will be amazing, the claws dmg is NOT much higher than all the others.

I didn't post the fight to show how to win or at least have a chance against stronger players, i just showed a normal claws (in reality, a strong one) without boost from fight vs someone with a strong character (83k pdef is ok'ish if the guy has decked his char, don't need to be a heavy casher). You post like everyone will buy a werewolf and it will hit that hard, which is a lie. What i'm asking is to post the damage of your wolf wtihout valiant banner, without nereida buff, with your average angel as guardian (in half of the fights you equip nyssa on its guardian, which i think u don't do in csb).

In half of the fights i can let my nereida in front for it to buff me and claws, but there is at least 20 sorcerers in my server who can 1hit my front line easily with wall of flames so i just put in the back. And in csb, half of the sorcerers there will 1shot a 130k nereida easily. Relyng on its buff with a weak or medium hero is very bad. ALL your posts only shows when the buff works, if it always work in your server, i can tell there must be not many people active there.

And if you have a similar bones (same soul/bless upgraded), he will most likely have 90k atk, with atk boost slot 95k, with valiant banner and nereida, its at least 130k atk. You may not see it yet, but kob skill+5 is 140% + 1350, exactly the same as a werewolf+5. The dmg is just a little lower due to the patk difference the claws get in comparison to kob. (in my team arena, cause claws have teamwork skill it hits a bit higher as well).

If i get the chance, i will post a fight from team arena where both of them hit the back row (which is not always, since some guys have good tanks in front)

Never trust stats they lie lol, just answer me this, how does my wolf with 95k patk do 187869 dmg (non-crit) to a main with 70k pdef when my wolf is not hurt with a skill of 140%, while my main can only do 87k (crit) with 92k patk with a skill of 210%

even if you say cuz it's buffed okay sure 95k x 1.18(18% dragon fury) x 1.18 (18% valiant banner) = 132k x 1.4(140% blood frenzy) - 70k pdef = 115k

Now turn 115k into 188k dmg for me please

[Scootermtb]

The growth from main is a lot higher, the claws/kob shows with higher br only cause of element growth br, without it the main has way more stats (defense, attack, hp, block, dodge). I don't know where you played before, but as a berserk looking at the screen, a wolf with only 4 rebirths and around lvl 70 is weaker than a berserker character, i cannot post screen with same gears right now cause he cant equip the 70 gears if i unequip, but in 1 week i can post it.

The ammount alexxandria spent is not important, its just to show a guy who has no BR at all in his heroes, his phantom has 70k br and the others have 20k/30k only. His char is strong enough to take the damage from heroes, main, angels, etc. All you can see in your videos is that you rely on your char + 1 claws. That's what people should do - 1 char + 1 hero. Any hero if very well geared will be amazing, the claws dmg is NOT much higher than all the others.

I didn't post the fight to show how to win or at least have a chance against stronger players, i just showed a normal claws (in reality, a strong one) without boost from fight vs someone with a strong character (83k pdef is ok'ish if the guy has decked his char, don't need to be a heavy casher). You post like everyone will buy a werewolf and it will hit that hard, which is a lie. What i'm asking is to post the damage of your wolf wtihout valiant banner, without nereida buff, with your average angel as guardian (in half of the fights you equip nyssa on its guardian, which i think u don't do in csb).

In half of the fights i can let my nereida in front for it to buff me and claws, but there is at least 20 sorcerers in my server who can 1hit my front line easily with wall of flames so i just put in the back. And in csb, half of the sorcerers there will 1shot a 130k nereida easily. Relyng on its buff with a weak or medium hero is very bad. ALL your posts only shows when the buff works, if it always work in your server, i can tell there must be not many people active there.

And if you have a similar bones (same soul/bless upgraded), he will most likely have 90k atk, with atk boost slot 95k, with valiant banner and nereida, its at least 130k atk. You may not see it yet, but kob skill+5 is 140% + 1350, exactly the same as a werewolf+5. The dmg is just a little lower due to the patk difference the claws get in comparison to kob. (in my team arena, cause claws have teamwork skill it hits a bit higher as well).

If i get the chance, i will post a fight from team arena where both of them hit the back row (which is not always, since some guys have good tanks in front)

[qingyunjian]

This may be a little long, but its worth for people who are going to buy the claws for the solene purpose to 1-hit everyone.

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Fight: Alexxandria has 83k pdef.


Claws grothw is no where near higher than a char. This comes from a berserk from s1, with a claws (4 rebirth, lvl 67) yellow+11 and a a char yellow+11, both upgrade+12. If i put my gears into his and the guardian angel, he has 6k less atk, def, 30k less hp, 1000 less block and dodge. (comes from a guy without wings, cloth, bling, glamours, etc)

I run team arena with Calliopz who owns a King o Bones. Surprisingly, the dmg of them is almost the same. KoB has 83k atk, Claws has 87k atk. When they critical, claws hit for 170k and kob hits for 150k. The difference is that the kob has 400k hp and a 20% hp shield after that and the claws only 350k hp.

I know qingyunjian post excited everytime their videos, but people must pay attention, Its a claw with base 95k atk, on a patk slot (boostin to 100k) with a nereida buff (boosting to 120k atk) with valiant banner (boosting to 140k atk) hitting people with 50-60k defense! Any hero with that attack would kill people who they hit. Big chars from the normal servers walk around with 80-100k defense cause they deck their char more than anything, my claws with 87k atk (just a little lower than his) hit them for 50k crit only as you see in the video and they have 450-500k hp. (yes, people with 550-600k br). I purposely put nereida on top so she wouldn't use her buff, so you can see the difference her buff means, with her i could hit him for ~80k. Yet, i'm not going to kill him with just the werewolf dmg.

Even tho i think claws is the perfect choice for people who does not own a column attack, he is not gonna make you insta win. Nereida buff makes a difference but the main damager of the party high upgraded is who is gonna win (doesn't matter if it's a hero or a char).

Talking about people that likes to 'hide' BR. Alexxandria on s1 has 500k br and is 3rd atm on clash, beating ppl with 700k br for the spot because his char is extremely strong, with high atk and def, while his heroes are all very weak.

One look at that battle report and I've noticed your problem, non-casher vs heavy casher lol, gg. First of all my battle reports are all against medium cashers meaning they spent 3-4 digits. Personally, I've only spent $40 since day 1

Claws' growth is definitely higher than your main. This comes from me(having over 4 months experience before localized LoA is even announced). The higher it's upgrade the higher it's growth is.

my claws have 95k patk I want to see a KoB with the same upgrades as me do 250k dmg on enemy backrow mains in arena

I posted 3 battle reports with 52k pdef, 66k pdef, and 70k pdef lol. What I want to see is someone who spent $40 in the game have a main with 100k pdef

Claws will not make you insta win, that's true. Claws is a very versatile hero. You need to factor in strategy and formation when using claws. I'm going to say this again, if both player spend the same amount and you can't 1-hit or cripple with claws, you're doing something wrong.

And how much have this Alexxandria spent? Those wings aren't cheap ya know

Note: My claws with 95314 patk did 187869 dmg on a main with 70k pdef (non-crit)

[Scootermtb]

This may be a little long, but its worth for people who are going to buy the claws for the solene purpose to 1-hit everyone.

Claws screen:

Fight: Alexxandria has 83k pdef.


Claws grothw is no where near higher than a char. This comes from a berserk from s1, with a claws (4 rebirth, lvl 67) yellow+11 and a a char yellow+11, both upgrade+12. If i put my gears into his and the guardian angel, he has 6k less atk, def, 30k less hp, 1000 less block and dodge. (comes from a guy without wings, cloth, bling, glamours, etc)

I run team arena with Calliopz who owns a King o Bones. Surprisingly, the dmg of them is almost the same. KoB has 83k atk, Claws has 87k atk. When they critical, claws hit for 170k and kob hits for 150k. The difference is that the kob has 400k hp and a 20% hp shield after that and the claws only 350k hp.

I know qingyunjian post excited everytime their videos, but people must pay attention, Its a claw with base 95k atk, on a patk slot (boostin to 100k) with a nereida buff (boosting to 120k atk) with valiant banner (boosting to 140k atk) hitting people with 50-60k defense! Any hero with that attack would kill people who they hit. Big chars from the normal servers walk around with 80-100k defense cause they deck their char more than anything, my claws with 87k atk (just a little lower than his) hit them for 50k crit only as you see in the video and they have 450-500k hp. (yes, people with 550-600k br). I purposely put nereida on top so she wouldn't use her buff, so you can see the difference her buff means, with her i could hit him for ~80k. Yet, i'm not going to kill him with just the werewolf dmg.

Even tho i think claws is the perfect choice for people who does not own a column attack, he is not gonna make you insta win. Nereida buff makes a difference but the main damager of the party high upgraded is who is gonna win (doesn't matter if it's a hero or a char).

Talking about people that likes to 'hide' BR. Alexxandria on s1 has 500k br and is 3rd atm on clash, beating ppl with 700k br for the spot because his char is extremely strong, with high atk and def, while his heroes are all very weak.

[R219301890]

How's this for you? Claws' growth is way higher than mains that's why Claws is so good

I'll take Claws anyday

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BR in this game doesn't matter. All you need is two strong characters and a strong angel.

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[adamusph]

How's this for you? Claws' growth is way higher than mains that's why Claws is so good

I'll take Claws anyday

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Having 100K above BR difference from other players and getting Top 1 COM is worth of all.
Thanks for everything Qing I have made my platoon beat higher BR too.
Soon to get BC for I have already Nereida just little time to get Ruby's. ^_^
Your dogie keep the faith in playing LOA.

[qingyunjian]

Hardly counts when your Claw's BR is higher then his main's.

How's this for you? Claws' growth is way higher than mains that's why Claws is so good

I'll take Claws anyday







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[The1Leon]

How can I get this guide? Got too many questions to ask here. I'm a member and top contributor/highest BR in the lamest guild-- Fairy Tale. Definitely need a new guild.

[Scootermtb]

There is always discussion about what hero to buy but i think the essential part people don't say: if you can't upgrade to at least yellow quality you shouldn't be wasting gold to buy the hero. A Werewolf, skeleton or fire fairy with 60k br will just boost your br without any use in pvp. A 60k bones will survive as much as your old nether knight does, he is equally strong, the only thing that changes really is the soul training.

The only one that may work while weak is nereida if she is protected somehow by other meatshields. Main chars are going with more than 100k attack and will aniquilate anything with 200k or less hp in 1 skill. Even the heroes will crit for 70k+ other heroes in most cases. All the other 3 can become really good if you upgrade hard, it's just personal choice.

[R219301890]

Claws >All Midnight Tavern Hero

Hardly counts when your Claw's BR is higher then his main's.

[qingyunjian]

That is a TON of work. Not going to do it.
Pretty much KoB should be the first go to. But Nerida and Burning soul is also viable.

Basically it's KoB > Nerida > Blazing Soul
For newer servers.

If you are in the older server and want to catch up, then it should be
Nerida > KoB > Blazing Soul



GUIDE UPDATED
Includes Dragon Soul Skills and corrections.

Claws >All Midnight Tavern Hero

[R219301890]

Very nice guide. Should update for each specific class what's optimal for Ruby hero's, and I would love ya loong time!

That is a TON of work. Not going to do it.
Pretty much KoB should be the first go to. But Nerida and Burning soul is also viable.

Basically it's KoB > Nerida > Blazing Soul
For newer servers.

If you are in the older server and want to catch up, then it should be
Nerida > KoB > Blazing Soul



GUIDE UPDATED
Includes Dragon Soul Skills and corrections.

[brotherhawk]

Very nice guide. Should update for each specific class what's optimal for Ruby hero's, and I would love ya loong time!

[R29423805]

Drat I dont feel so special having it in doc form anymore lol. Great guide like always Raichu.