Winning TT

[Ahkiriu]

Well first of all let disregard br for a moment cause LoA at this current stage is mostly centered around tactics and dodge over br, although unless you're a heavy casher then haaaaa nope. Also R213755235 just explain everything that typically happen in TT and for Painindadark does have a point, having 2 super strong player with 3 weakling will beat a lot of teams since most team are just 1 super and 4 weak, it a simple base tactics. But now guys we all gotta remember that all time servers is different..i mean majo over the CDT servers....he be murdering people and people from CDT would also consider 1m-1.6m br people weak (unless they're super dodger with badass team) but like PST, my server, 1m-1.6m is consider in the strong field since well no one (actively atleast) has reach 2m br

Edit: also with your infinate rage build and 14k dodge :P i can see why you can beat the people at 1.8m~, since mostly people dont be getting alot of dodge and rage skill hurts

[blahblah11]

Umm...Because you stated that 1-1.6mil as weak?????????? If you learn to read, and observe and do simple math, you'd realize that from the SS, those teams made it that far for a reason (they are the strongest in the bracket), and the average of each of those teams are 1.3-1.5mil??????? So you're saying that EVERYONE on our bracket is weak, with the exception of the 2-3 that are 1.9-2mil?

[Painindaback]

I also enjoy how ignorant you are by assuming "4 weaklings (1-1.6mil)" based on what? YOUR experience in YOUR server? I'm sorry that 1.6mil is consider "weak" in your server that has months ahead of play time, but that's why we're NOT in YOUR bracket, as how would it be fair for low 1mil vs mid 2mil? As for your assumption again on how you're able to beat 1.8mil, I guarantee you I can beat you at 1.3mil, so your logic on what is considered weak is invalid.

As I said already, I'm a free player and just 1.3 mln br, so yes maybe you can beat me at 1.3 mln as that's my BR range. And seriously... we are talking about the god damn Team tournament, why did you assume that I'm talking about my server?... It's a good idea to think before typing as you said.

Here's my team, 3 free players, 2 cashers (that aren't that big, LostHope had his main one shotted by a 1.6 mln br player and his main has 1.3 mln hp).

[blahblah11]

I previously thought it was right side always wins as well, but its been proven/stated that the team whoever does the most damage at the end wins. IE if the left side have a tanky main + strong hecate and moderate heroes, while the right side have a very tanky main + decent hecate and crappy heroes, if the battle times out, most likely the right side will do more damage, because left side have a strong hecate to keep the moderate heroes alive from angel attacks. So for many teams with strong hecate and decent heroes but cannot kill your opponent, it acts as a double edge sword.

[R213755235]

^ that strategy doesn't work if the highest BR guy is placed last, or whoever is the toughest to beat. Gonna use burning as an example.

Team 1: Burning + 4 other random players

Team 2: High BR (Player A) + 4 medium BR characters

Situation 1: Burning goes 1st and kills 3 of Team 2's member. Team 1 = 3 points. Team 2 = 4 points is highest possible. Now Team 2 beats the next 3 people from Team 1. Team 1 = 3 Points. Team 2 = 3 points. Player A now comes in and goes for the last kill. Team 1 = 3 points. Team 2 = 4 points. And Team 2 wins.

Situation 2: Team 1 now uses Team 2's strategy and Burning wins the last match. Team 1 wins.

Now the next couple of situations are from my own experiments with team tournament:

Situation 3: Team 1 now puts Burning into the 4th slot. Team 2 has a player that manages to kill all of the members before burning. Team 2 = 3. Team 1 = 0. Burning steps in and kills the next 3, leaving Player A. Team 1 = 3 points. Team 2 = 3 points. Both teams have 1 player that are "resting". Now comes the last battle. 2 outcomes: 1) Team 1 kills player A, 2) Player A kills team 2. Whoever is last standing wins. This is where the timeout situation is crappy because whatever team is on the left is labeled as the "Challenger" and the right team is "Champion (for lack of a better word)". If the left team fails to kill a player because of a timeout, they lose.

Situation 4: Burning is in the 1st slot now and kills the first 3 players from team 2. Team 1 = 3 points, Team 2 = 0 points. Team 2 now kills the 2nd player but lost to the 3rd player from Team 1. Team 1 = 4 points, Team 2 = 1 point. Player A comes in and kills the rest of Team 1. Team 1 = 4 points, Team 2 = 4 points. This is where I seriously hate the stupid "Challenger" / "Champion" system. If Team 2 is on the left, they lose. If Team 2 is on the right, they win. ** right? Yep, that's LOA's flawed system for you.

[blahblah11]

I also enjoy how ignorant you are by assuming "4 weaklings (1-1.6mil)" based on what? YOUR experience in YOUR server? I'm sorry that 1.6mil is consider "weak" in your server that has months ahead of play time, but that's why we're NOT in YOUR bracket, as how would it be fair for low 1mil vs mid 2mil? As for your assumption again on how you're able to beat 1.8mil, I guarantee you I can beat you at 1.3mil, so your logic on what is considered weak is invalid.

[Painindaback]

I understand the logic of dodging an opponent you have no chance vs, but your statement of "all you need is 2 players that can beat 4 of your opponent" as easy is laughable. How about you post some of the teams in your bracket so I can imagine just how "easy" my bracket was compared to yours.

I don't think you read anything I wrote. I said that it's all you need against teams with 1 humongous player and 4 weaklings (1-1.6 mln br as shown on screenshots). In my bracket there were teams with 2 players above 2 mln br, obviously that won't work against them. So there's no need to show the teams from my bracket as it's irrelevant to what I said.

[blahblah11]

I understand the logic of dodging an opponent you have no chance vs, but your statement of "all you need is 2 players that can beat 4 of your opponent" as easy is laughable. How about you post some of the teams in your bracket so I can imagine just how "easy" my bracket was compared to yours.

edit-disregard posting, I just saw one of your replay, as you are level 81 as a "free player" I can safely assume you play in one of the older servers, so obviously your brackets would consist of a lot more teams consisting of over 2mil+. I'm sure I don't need to tell you how long it takes to level post 70, so I shouldn't need to tell you to think again before making such comment as your sever and the people you face have 2-3 months more play time than most of the teams on my bracket.

[Painindaback]

Do you think before you type these comments? "all you need is 2 players that can beat 4 of your opponent" explain how is that easy?

I guess you should read your comment and take it as an advice.

Let's say there's 1 player with a 38728592375923 br, impossible to beat.. right? He kills 3 of your team. Now if you check the screenshots that were shown earlier, the other players in the teams had 1-1.6 mln br. If you position your players well enough, you could end up with 2 players that can beat the weaklings in the teams. I myself am a free player that can beat players up to 1.8-9 mln br, imagine if I was placed against 1-1.6 mln, could probably beat 3 of them on my own with the exception of 1.6 that might do a bit more damage to me. And those that I can't beat are left for my last teammate.
Is that thinking enough for you? Or is it too complicated for you to understand?

[blahblah11]

Damn, wish the teams were that easy on my bracket as well. Against such teams all you need is 2 players that can beat 4 of your opponent and dodge the 5th, easy pickings.

Do you think before you type these comments? "all you need is 2 players that can beat 4 of your opponent" explain how is that easy?

[R213755235]

The best that team would do in an EST TT would be top 8. I wish the EST servers were less competitive. The amount of cashers on this side of the coast is just ridiculous...

[Ahkiriu]

well strategy is also interpreted in this also, br and cash alone dont make you a winner, the only heavy casher was Eupheus, Im a free user and get all my diamonds from videos :P the good times everyday. Also the other 3, Gormee, Loren, and Temina are light...very very light casher.
Ooo our team total br was 5.7m XD dam higher than yours by 100k hunout

Edit: This is from PST servers :P you can also share yours time server too

[Painindaback]

This is as good a post as any to reply to with my bragging. The tale of a 5.6m team that beat four 7m+ teams to take the grand finals

First up, the roster:
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Zeta is running a 4-man team and Kyrena is running a 3-man team so their BR is a little deceptive, but even if they went full team they'd not have the numbers the other teams had. Phear played a good boogeyman in third place (though I don't think he ever faced a fight he had a chance in), and Pak Tarjo and I might as well have been naked

First round was a joke, like a 3.6m team. here are the following rounds...

Second Round
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Third Round
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Fourth Round
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Final
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Grand Final
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Having the super casher BR is good, but having a favorable formation line up is even better

Damn, wish the teams were that easy on my bracket as well. Against such teams all you need is 2 players that can beat 4 of your opponent and dodge the 5th, easy pickings.

[hunuot]

This is like , who has the most br / cash wins aint that hard to pull off.

This is as good a post as any to reply to with my bragging. The tale of a 5.6m team that beat four 7m+ teams to take the grand finals

First up, the roster:

Zeta is running a 4-man team and Kyrena is running a 3-man team so their BR is a little deceptive, but even if they went full team they'd not have the numbers the other teams had. Phear played a good boogeyman in third place (though I don't think he ever faced a fight he had a chance in), and Pak Tarjo and I might as well have been naked

First round was a joke, like a 3.6m team. here are the following rounds...

Second Round

Third Round

Fourth Round

Final

Grand Final


Having the super casher BR is good, but having a favorable formation line up is even better

[Jm4nsk1]

This is like , who has the most br / cash wins aint that hard to pull off.

i have to disagree on that