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  • #16
    Originally posted by ohkitsune View Post
    hecate is so over rated , it had its time , but player DPS now is way too high and hecate healing dont look so op anymore , maybe evolution save hecate
    You are extremly wrong. Do you play against weak Hecates? Because most of the time i fight Hecates they Heal 200-400k. So if you fight a ultra coiner with 30k+ Dodge and a overpowered Hecate (what happens extremly often) you stand no chance to win the fight. So as free user your chances against a Hecate user are under 10& most of the time.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by R256523549 View Post
      You are extremly wrong. Do you play against weak Hecates? Because most of the time i fight Hecates they Heal 200-400k. So if you fight a ultra coiner with 30k+ Dodge and a overpowered Hecate (what happens extremly often) you stand no chance to win the fight. So as free user your chances against a Hecate user are under 10& most of the time.
      200-400k heal isnt much at all and u talk about 30k dodge , like is something common , but then your problem wouldnt be heal but your own lack of hit

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      • #18
        Haven't fought a hecate, that can survive 1 hit from my claw and I've fought 500k br ones. Healers are pretty much useless in PvP, buffers are those that shine
        Last edited by Painindaback; 10-16-2014, 12:33 PM.
        <--- 700k+ BR Claw

        Penetrator69:
        everyone knows there was a problem with claws not working how he should've, yet you seem to cry about which to me seems like you cant kill people you used to be able to.
        logic.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by R256523549 View Post
          You are extremly wrong. Do you play against weak Hecates? Because most of the time i fight Hecates they Heal 200-400k. So if you fight a ultra coiner with 30k+ Dodge and a overpowered Hecate (what happens extremly often) you stand no chance to win the fight. So as free user your chances against a Hecate user are under 10& most of the time.
          200-400k heal is so weak. Get her to heal 700k and maybe. Just maybe she will live one more round in top battles. Hecate right now some people are still deploying just cuz. She is quite useless right now. If they keep the blazing hecate shield effect when they upgrade her then she will be useful again. But right now? She sucks.

          And u really have no idea how much it costs to get 30k dodge do u? If u have that, it should be on main or striker instead of a heal that will only give u more room for being damaged and lose the CST battle. Cost/effectiveness of doing 30l dodge on hecate is so low it is not even funny. Even burning is not that ignorant on his build to have that.
          Last edited by uxu4n; 10-16-2014, 02:18 PM.
          This is Eisia

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          • #20
            back in the day when hecate got released everyone wanted to have 1 . then ES and amazon hunter got released and keeping up with heals got harder , then people started giving def stats(beside dodge) for offensive ones and healing got even harder , then people advanced to a point where they do extreme amounts of dmg to each other and heals got useless so yeah even if they add moon priestess or luna or w/e the name will have it will be still useless . at least this is how i see things...might be wrong who knows

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            • #21
              Originally posted by R235962306 View Post
              back in the day when hecate got released everyone wanted to have 1 . then ES and amazon hunter got released and keeping up with heals got harder , then people started giving def stats(beside dodge) for offensive ones and healing got even harder , then people advanced to a point where they do extreme amounts of dmg to each other and heals got useless so yeah even if they add moon priestess or luna or w/e the name will have it will be still useless . at least this is how i see things...might be wrong who knows
              well that's only correct when you're fighting hard cashers or longass players
              if you're a non cashers (no premium heroes A.K.A. HoC heroes) against a non cashers healing becomes handy
              Originally posted by Kurt Cobain
              -I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.
              -Wanting to be someone else is a waste of who you are
              -Practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect, so why practice?
              -Thank you for the tragedy. I need it for my art.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by toxicode95 View Post
                well that's only correct when you're fighting hard cashers or longass players
                if you're a non cashers (no premium heroes A.K.A. HoC heroes) against a non cashers healing becomes handy
                My Claw can deal up to ~1 mln damage to 200k DEF targets, I'm a non casher. And that's before taking Libra's buff/evolving claw/unlocking weapon rune. Healers are useful in PvP only when fighting weak and bad players
                <--- 700k+ BR Claw

                Penetrator69:
                everyone knows there was a problem with claws not working how he should've, yet you seem to cry about which to me seems like you cant kill people you used to be able to.
                logic.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Painindaback View Post
                  My Claw can deal up to ~1 mln damage to 200k DEF targets, I'm a non casher. And that's before taking Libra's buff/evolving claw/unlocking weapon rune. Healers are useful in PvP only when fighting weak and bad players
                  you sure it's 1 million ?
                  how much br your claw have?
                  Originally posted by Kurt Cobain
                  -I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.
                  -Wanting to be someone else is a waste of who you are
                  -Practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect, so why practice?
                  -Thank you for the tragedy. I need it for my art.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by toxicode95 View Post
                    you sure it's 1 million ?
                    how much br your claw have?
                    I haven't concentrated solely on my Claw, so my Nereida is almost certain (unless stunned) to activate skill before Claw. And if needed could always put Valiant banner on my main.
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                    <--- 700k+ BR Claw

                    Penetrator69:
                    everyone knows there was a problem with claws not working how he should've, yet you seem to cry about which to me seems like you cant kill people you used to be able to.
                    logic.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Painindaback View Post
                      I haven't concentrated solely on my Claw, so my Nereida is almost certain (unless stunned) to activate skill before Claw. And if needed could always put Valiant banner on my main.
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                      I did say longass player right?
                      you're longass player category dammit
                      Originally posted by Kurt Cobain
                      -I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.
                      -Wanting to be someone else is a waste of who you are
                      -Practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect, so why practice?
                      -Thank you for the tragedy. I need it for my art.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by toxicode95 View Post
                        I did say longass player right?
                        you're longass player category dammit
                        Makes absolutely no difference. Not one bit. Even when I was a young player I could still one hit back rows. And one more thing, I did say "fighting weak and bad players" as well. And unless you are stronger than your opponent (which if you are, then you would win without a healer in the first place), it's highly unlikely that you'll have a strong enough healer to survive 1 hit from your opponent's striker. Unless you've concentrated on your healer only, but then you'll lack the damage so in the end you'd still lose.
                        So yes, healers are useless in PvP.

                        And if you think for a mere second... if a 500k br claw is able to one hit a 500k br hecate, doesn't that apply to equally upgraded "shortass players"'s heroes?
                        Last edited by Painindaback; 10-17-2014, 04:30 PM.
                        <--- 700k+ BR Claw

                        Penetrator69:
                        everyone knows there was a problem with claws not working how he should've, yet you seem to cry about which to me seems like you cant kill people you used to be able to.
                        logic.

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                        • #27
                          292k patk, doing 1mil to 200kpdef players? lol...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by blahblah11 View Post
                            292k patk, doing 1mil to 200kpdef players? lol...
                            Yep, Nereida's buff, 20% fire totem (soon 25%), 6k halo, valiant banner (although I rarely use it and still do that much) and I'm sure you can see the element damage on the screenshot (gets amplified by all previously mentioned stuff except halo, along with crit and skill %)
                            <--- 700k+ BR Claw

                            Penetrator69:
                            everyone knows there was a problem with claws not working how he should've, yet you seem to cry about which to me seems like you cant kill people you used to be able to.
                            logic.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Painindaback View Post
                              Makes absolutely no difference. Not one bit. Even when I was a young player I could still one hit back rows. And one more thing, I did say "fighting weak and bad players" as well. And unless you are stronger than your opponent (which if you are, then you would win without a healer in the first place), it's highly unlikely that you'll have a strong enough healer to survive 1 hit from your opponent's striker. Unless you've concentrated on your healer only, but then you'll lack the damage so in the end you'd still lose.
                              So yes, healers are useless in PvP.

                              And if you think for a mere second... if a 500k br claw is able to one hit a 500k br hecate, doesn't that apply to equally upgraded "shortass players"'s heroes?
                              yeah sure see if you really don't need healers on cs tourney and when you're doing cs or tc

                              I really doubt an expert like you would ever need a healer
                              and wow non-casher but still recharge 1k each month to renew vip, you're considered low casher player. sir.
                              sorry I mean LoA Expert

                              excuse my rudeness sir, I just considered the possibility of you earning those vip from free offers
                              my bad. sir expert

                              and yes I doesn't mean any offence too sir.
                              just like to argues with ppl

                              side notes : I also likes to annoy ppl sometimes, just sometimes
                              Last edited by toxicode95; 10-17-2014, 04:56 PM.
                              Originally posted by Kurt Cobain
                              -I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.
                              -Wanting to be someone else is a waste of who you are
                              -Practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect, so why practice?
                              -Thank you for the tragedy. I need it for my art.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by toxicode95 View Post
                                yeah sure see if you really don't need healers on cs tourney and when you're doing cs or tc

                                I really doubt an expert like you would ever need a healer
                                and wow non-casher but still recharge 1k each month to renew vip, you're considered low casher player. sir.
                                sorry I mean LoA Expert
                                Been in the knock-out round of every CSTT (first 2 TTs were with a team of 5 free players) so far without a healer and I can beat 2 mln+ BR players with beefed up hecates+shakers.
                                Yes, non-casher.. 0,00$ spent on the game. But you are right, I do use 699 diamonds each month to renew VIP.. with free diamonds.
                                I'm no expert, but players like you make me facepalm due to the lack of thinking on your side.
                                <--- 700k+ BR Claw

                                Penetrator69:
                                everyone knows there was a problem with claws not working how he should've, yet you seem to cry about which to me seems like you cant kill people you used to be able to.
                                logic.

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