Lucky tree

[Phoenix_Myst]

This game has turned into a Pay to play... giving such huge advantages to those that pay has taken all the fun out of playing. I understand the concept behind the donating to keep a game alive.. and I get that cashers are going to be stronger players and have more stuff then non-cashers,(if they know what they are doing with all that spending) but it has gotten out of hand how big of a difference between them. I honestly think creating more and more casher events or taking away more from non cashers for the sake of cashers is going to hurt this game in the long run. Non cashers are going to start leaving the game, which will result in more spending for a bit as cashers compete with one another, but eventually even the cashers are going to decide it isn't worth it to out spend the other players.
At least in the first lucky tree event there was a way to get more nectar, especially if you happened to be one of those people that hoards items, but this one.. so far I have seen nothing but the 1 or 2 a day free ones.. for those that only get 1.. not even enough to get enough points to get the first personal reward. Is it really necessary for creators or devs to be THAT stingy to non cashers? In the first tree event I did not get a single diamond for the 2 tries a day that I got.. and they coins barely added up to enough to buy the cheapest thing in the points store, so to say and event like this even helps non cashers.. is presumptuous... hardly any of them are even lucky enough to hit on the diamonds, and those that are lucky enough.. don't even come close to getting as much as a casher is going to get. Leaving the strong to get even stronger, while the non cashers are left out to dry again to be chew toys for the big boys.

[Norman818181]

The issue here is the lack of attempts non-cash players are experiencing. How can they get the free dias if they're not getting enough attempts? Now, an attempt cost 30 dias, if a heavy casher can spend hundreds of $ in tycoon, imagine how much they can spend here to get the free dias (to be used to buy attempts again) and high-leveled gems. They'll be showering themselves with diamonds and gems, include also the personal rewards, while the non-cash players are left in obscurity. That widens the gap even more between cash and non-cash players.

1) If you pay for a car (low or med cashiers/smart saver players), you get a car. If you pay for a plane(Heavy cashier/ Sold a house to play the game players lol) , you get a plane. If you choose to walk, you will never get there as fast as the ones getting a plane. Isnt that the most simplest logic in this real world?

2) Free diamonds spin is all about Luck, and it is definitely not that easy to get refund as much as they spend like what you said "imagine how much they can spend here to get the free dias (to be used to buy attempts again)" Only about 10% in normal luck situation. If based on what you said, you have 1-2 attempt free, you spin and get 50 diamonds, you too can spin again and get another 50 diamonds and so on. It is all about luck.

3)Personal Rewards isnt that attractive at all.

4)Coins rewards (And it is more expensive than the last time round) - Do you know how much $$$ you need to spend just to get Raphael? Based on calculation you need to spend at least 15k -20k diamonds in order to get Raphael (including those you won from spin it will be roughly 15.2k-24k diamonds total spent) And like i said earlier, Cashier pay for their items, just like you have to pay for your food during lunch. You buy bentos, you eat bentos, you buy Ribeye, you eat ribeye. simple logic.

5) Server reward- Cashier paid for your rewards as well, you are just taking a free ride. Every other events, cashier spent diamonds and pay for whatever rewards they want, either in ranking or shop, but what do you get from those event? You get nothing.

6) Widen the gap- This is the most ridicule thing you said. If a cashier is super damn rich like what you said, he will pay for every events to get rank 1 (Cross server or Local Server) not only this Lucky Tree event. Do you think you can even closer the gap if he win every event rank 1 every 3-4 days? The gap will never closer if they spend money and you dont, just like the car, plane and walking theory.

[tackleit1994]

yes they do .. our server casher wins every event .. yes every event he can't afford to let us take 1st prize else even non -spenders will kick his *** .. for now only light spenders do .. :P ..

[tackleit1994]

BTW no complaining how spenders play .. what anyone pays or how anyone plays it is totally on them but atleast give everyone chance to atleast think for the events ..

[AntifreezeUnder0]

1) If you pay for a car (low or med cashiers/smart saver players), you get a car. If you pay for a plane(Heavy cashier/ Sold a house to play the game players lol) , you get a plane. If you choose to walk, you will never get there as fast as the ones getting a plane. Isnt that the most simplest logic in this real world?

Yea if, but when it comes you must pay to be able to get anything, its the place where players complain. It would be same as you paying for gas for car, not becaue you want, or need you must pay, so you could drive with it, and then the car doesnt matter. Like this lucky tree, in order to get to lvl 3 must spend 600 dimes, If you want to get anything , that is . But then again its game, hate the game not the player.

[lezickh]

The OP is just jealous of the "Casher" who spend diamonds to lvl-up the yggdrasil tree, all he needs to do is just wait for that damn tree to lvlup and collect rewards but instead he is here complaining that the casher is getting more reward than him

[tackleit1994]

The OP is just jealous of the "Casher" who spend diamonds to lvl-up the yggdrasil tree, all he needs to do is just wait for that damn tree to lvlup and collect rewards but instead he is here complaining that the casher is getting more reward than him

Looks like u r really having fun playing the game .. good keep on having fun ..
And i said got nothing against cashers .. they are the reason the game is alive .. so stop assuming think and start to read ..

[Blackofblackest]

First of all, I'm seeing this from a casher's (not heavy) perspective -

1. That analogy is ridiculous, don't ever use it again. LOL

2. If somehow, by the will of a Higher Being, a non-cash player managed to get the 50-diamond reward, I doubt he'll use it to buy an attempt, they'd rather save it for buying VIP.

3. Don't be conceited - you're saying 2 of lvl8 and 9 gems, 3 fused gems, lvl9 cherub are not attractive? A rewards is a reward no matter how you look at it.

4. Raphael is not the only item you can buy there, if they're aiming for it then goodluck to them.

5. Server rewards are nullified since everyone can get it, that why I didn't include them in the argument. If the high cashers didn't pay to level up the yggdrasil they'll never get their personal rewards, and level up the their personal tree which is their no.1 goal anyway, yggdrasil is just a side goal for them so to speak.

6. What I'm saying here is the rate of how fast the gap widens, it's different from them trying to close the gap. At some events, SS tycoon for example, non-casher players can keep at pace with higher ones because the event is somewhat fair.

[p0lal3la]

About lucky wheel vs tree .. hmm the wheel had a nice shop .. i remember me buying from there gold seeds for 1 point each .. also the pic u show is from worst reward wheel seen since i play this .. at a point there were angel shards and some low fused but hmm i think that wheel was better bcz the point shop had decent prices and more people could afford getting some stuff .. now last tree i spent some dias trying my luck .. no luck at all .. so no more tree for me atm .. then again wheel owns tree (I dont understand why Pandora became so .. expensive)

[Norman818181]

Looks like u r really having fun playing the game .. good keep on having fun ..
And i said got nothing against cashers .. they are the reason the game is alive .. so stop assuming think and start to read ..

We are not targeting at you. But those who said this is a cashier event only. Read what the rest said.

[osobena]

About lucky wheel vs tree .. hmm the wheel had a nice shop .. i remember me buying from there gold seeds for 1 point each .. also the pic u show is from worst reward wheel seen since i play this .. at a point there were angel shards and some low fused but hmm i think that wheel was better bcz the point shop had decent prices and more people could afford getting some stuff .. now last tree i spent some dias trying my luck .. no luck at all .. so no more tree for me atm .. then again wheel owns tree (I dont understand why Pandora became so .. expensive)

You bought seeds that you can buy for a few gold in garden from tree? Personally I thought Wheel of luck's shop for extremely lame. The only things worth buying there were incinerator and Angelina and it took me months to get all shards for them from there + shards from other events. Polly was given in shards 3 times in wheel of Luck... in the end I got her from tycoon... great event, lol.

Now lets compare Tree with other event. What you guys prefer? I will go with Angel Quiz as that's what's going on now. So how long does it take to collect enough vouchers for advanced rank? And in the best case you win 300 bless + some items(or gems or whatever current reward is) + 4 days top reward - total 2000 refines and 600 seraphs. And that after at least 2 months of saving AND if you don't have a mega casher on your server(or if he is nice enough to let you win rank 1).
Tree - first day and our tree is lvl 4 - I got 1500 refines, 650 soulstones and 170 seraphs. Lets say that at the end we reach lvl 5, so for 2 more days I will get 2000 MORE refines, 600 soulstones and 200 seraphs. And I get that EVERY time that event is there + saving coins for a couple of months and you can get something from shop + a chance to get free dias. SO in the end from Tree you can have 2 times(if not more) more resources than from any other event (without having to count if you have enough vouchers, keys or whatever to go or you need to wait next time) as you go every time and don't just skip and win(a lot less at that) only once every 2-3 months. So what exactly you are complaining about, people? You are plain greedy!

[Norman818181]

First of all, I'm seeing this from a casher's (not heavy) perspective -

1. That analogy is ridiculous, don't ever use it again. LOL

2. If somehow, by the will of a Higher Being, a non-cash player managed to get the 50-diamond reward, I doubt he'll use it to buy an attempt, they'd rather save it for buying VIP.

3. Don't be conceited - you're saying 2 of lvl8 and 9 gems, 3 fused gems, lvl9 cherub are not attractive? A rewards is a reward no matter how you look at it.

4. Raphael is not the only item you can buy there, if they're aiming for it then goodluck to them.

5. Server rewards are nullified since everyone can get it, that why I didn't include them in the argument. If the high cashers didn't pay to level up the yggdrasil they'll never get their personal rewards, and level up the their personal tree which is their no.1 goal anyway, yggdrasil is just a side goal for them so to speak.

6. What I'm saying here is the rate of how fast the gap widens, it's different from them trying to close the gap. At some events, SS tycoon for example, non-casher players can keep at pace with higher ones because the event is somewhat fair.

1)It is the facts though it may sound funny. LOL

2)That is a non-player choice to spend it again or not. Like i said, this is all about luck. Cashier may spin 10-20 times but still didnt get any diamonds back. Non cashier may get lucky too if they spin again, we dont know until he try again, so all this is Pure luck.

3) To get those rewards as stated by you (+Raphael from shop since they should have enough coins by then), you need to spin 800 times. 800x30diamonds=24000 diamonds - 10% chance of diamonds refunds is about 21000 diamonds spent, which is about $200 Usd.

If They are willing to pay that amount to get those rewards, i wouldnt complain, because that is alot of money and its their benefit for being rich.

4)Well, Raphael is just an example, the most expensive reward to exchange with coin is 2 times more, which is about $400 Usd. Like i said, If they are going to pay so much for those rewards, i give it to them, because it is a lot of money even to me as a low/med cashier.

5) The point here is, if those cashier spent money (even if they are just aiming for their own rewards), Non cashier still benefit from yggdrasil Rewards, and those Rewards is worth 2-3 weeks of effort to get them if you play for free everyday. So what is there to complain about not getting any good rewards for non cashier when non cashier dont have to put in any effort and you get 2-3 weeks resources free?

6) Like i said, if your server have a super damn cashier/ alot of them. You will see the gap widen between non cashier/ med cashier and Super cashier every 3-4 days because there is event every 3-4 days. The rate is the same as compare to the amount of money they spend, but not equal to the time frame like you said (For tree event, it may seem faster, but super cashier spend more as well). However, If you are in a server of just normal cashiers, (which is most of us are in), you shouldnt even worry about this rate of widening the gap because they wouldnt be spending alot of money as this tree event is very expensive compare to other events. So it is still fair, SS tyhoon (Normal Server with normal cashier) normal cashier dont need to spend that much to get Top ranking rewards/ or the same rewards from tree as well.

Anyway, for me (low/med cashier), i will not spend any diamonds on this event because it is way too expensive to get those rewards. I will just be like all the smart non cashier (Not those noob non cashier who complain this event is only for cashiers) just wait for those cashier to level up yggdrasil and collect those rewards for free, and try my luck on my free attempt to get some diamonds, which i think it is the best option for all non cashier/ low cashier.

[p0lal3la]

You bought seeds that you can buy for a few gold in garden from tree? Personally I thought Wheel of luck's shop for extremely lame. The only things worth buying there were incinerator and Angelina and it took me months to get all shards for them from there + shards from other events. Polly was given in shards 3 times in wheel of Luck... in the end I got her from tycoon... great event, lol.

Now lets compare Tree with other event. What you guys prefer? I will go with Angel Quiz as that's what's going on now. So how long does it take to collect enough vouchers for advanced rank? And in the best case you win 300 bless + some items(or gems or whatever current reward is) + 4 days top reward - total 2000 refines and 600 seraphs. And that after at least 2 months of saving AND if you don't have a mega casher on your server(or if he is nice enough to let you win rank 1).
Tree - first day and our tree is lvl 4 - I got 1500 refines, 650 soulstones and 170 seraphs. Lets say that at the end we reach lvl 5, so for 2 more days I will get 2000 MORE refines, 600 soulstones and 200 seraphs. And I get that EVERY time that event is there + saving coins for a couple of months and you can get something from shop + a chance to get free dias. SO in the end from Tree you can have 2 times(if not more) more resources than from any other event (without having to count if you have enough vouchers, keys or whatever to go or you need to wait next time) as you go every time and don't just skip and win(a lot less at that) only once every 2-3 months. So what exactly you are complaining about, people? You are plain greedy!

2nd encounter and u miss again .. since when u buy lvl 3 Gold seed L for a few gold? last time i checked 1 was priced for 15 dias .. so if i spent 200 points i bought goods that worth .. 6k dias .. for free .. well these do nice when tycoon expec for free players .. then again -> read ->think -> reply ..

About Tree .. u need active server to get things rollin .. but older servers are nearly dead .. maybe u come to my server, recharge 100k dias and make things happen ..

[Huntresssss]

the tree of luck is only ok ya sure IF got a mega spender or 2 can get L5+ but rly x4 L5 server rewards and 8 spins is worse than all other server lvl events like thanksgiving angel party xmas party ect. atleast there u could buy useful thing with the marks from event plus if server not got a mega casher like some don't u may not event hit L4 by day 4 defo now this 1 got no nectar bonus event.. if had a devo=nectar or similar hot event and could save for a good go then it would b ok how is i fine it a below par event...

atleast its better than mount exclusive were only mega casher can buy a usful mount and don't repeat the low cost mount..

S371 i am on and most any1 spends is $10/month so our tree lvl is gona max hit 4 and we r slightly dead server also must b nice to b free player and get tree lvl high XD

[osobena]

2nd encounter and u miss again .. since when u buy lvl 3 Gold seed L for a few gold? last time i checked 1 was priced for 15 dias .. so if i spent 200 points i bought goods that worth .. 6k dias .. for free .. well these do nice when tycoon expec for free players .. then again -> read ->think -> reply ..

About Tree .. u need active server to get things rollin .. but older servers are nearly dead .. maybe u come to my server, recharge 100k dias and make things happen ..

You are giving yourself such a nice advice, I just have no idea why are you not following it. It might have done you some good, lol.
200 lvl 3 Gold seeds give 33m gold and that's soooooo not worth 6k dias. Or 3k for that matter.
And I am on a server with 20-25 active players(if even so), we got lvl 4 tree only from 5 mid cashers and the free players, so it's possible most servers to reach lvl 4 tree. So if you don't have any better arguments than "come recharge" - don't bother typing.