Originally posted by osobena
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Tarot back in Little Helper Please
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seriously is this a joke or what??? after this update today its even worse. they reduced the time you have to make turns. at the beginning i was able to get to lvl 10-15, then after update maximum i could do was 8 (after little helper) and now i cant even get past 3 because i run out of time. admin do you hate your non-donor player? this is the worst pay2win game i have ever seen. make strong people even stronger (people who have no problem to spend $10.000 just to win an event) and weak people even weaker. the only good thing you ever brought out was the new check-in system but even with that you cant really reach top without spending money since this is aswell a bonus for casher. and actually i see nothing worth to buy with diamonds (attempts never lol.. stuff in shop? NO. only VIP and upgrade stuff is worth to spend diamonds on)
i see no future in this game^^ i can tell you it wont make it more than 1 more year if you continue to bring out such updates and nerf everything where actually non-casher have a chance to be good at. i know you devs did this because people were abusing this system but most of us like me have a excellent memory and create their own system of thinking when turning cards. thats why i could get easily to 10-13 before. (this was 7k points per day.) so that means i would need to save my points for 17 days to buy the shirt. 17 days. now i can make 2k points if i have luck which means 60 days. good job lool
so all in all my suggestion: either remove tarrot completly or make it as it was before where u could get up to 7k points daily if you were good. this means increase the time and bring back turn attempts after lvl 7. another option would be little helper, but this is kinda stupid since then u can actually just give the rewards in check-in system daily or in ranking.Last edited by xBizzare; 04-29-2015, 08:50 AM.
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tarot was **** hated doing it and after months of 'optimizing' guess what its still **** put in little helper so us people that hate it can just skip it but still get something even if not tarot points the rewards it gave before in helper were fineIGN : psychosis
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I agree to put option, doing manually or using little helper, because last update on tarot is really mess up..
Time is too fast, now I cant even got 1k pts / att.. usually I can get more than 3.5k pts using 3 att without any additional flip cards.. and what about Tarot Flip Cards that we already bought? cant be exchange to something?Last edited by R283664701; 04-29-2015, 12:08 PM.
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If we think of this as the 3rd tarot version, its better than 2nd imho. Timer is a bit greedy at the end, eats a few seconds, but all in all, u can most of the time clear first lvl that has red background cards (duno what that lvl is). In 2nd version for that, u needed divine asistance of dia.
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3rd version is same bad as 2nd. Less time is not that problem if you can memorize few cards - this supposed be a memory game. Problem is lack of card flips. To be sure to uncover N cards you need 3/2*N flips (if no mistakes, this is enough for worst case, when are no card pairs on first half of cards). On lvl 7 tarot (16 cards, so 24 flips is needed) i get usually less than 16 flips (which makes impossible to uncover all), max i got was 19 flips, one time i got only 2 flips. On 1st version of tarot you had enough flips up to lvl 8 or 9 (depending of number flips saved from previous lvls).
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Originally posted by elleshar View PostTo be sure to uncover N cards you need 3/2*N flips (if no mistakes, this is enough for worst case, when are no card pairs on first half of cards).
The worst case is when every 2nd member of a pair is found on the 2nd flip and immediately flipped back. The total cost is 3 flips for the last 2 pairs and 4 flips for all others, i.e. for n pairs a maximum of (n-2)*4 + 6 flips.
For 16 cards it's not 24 but 30 maximum flips.
It was possible to die as early as level 3.
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Tarot works now, no reason to to put it back in Little Helper.
Locking Tarot and putting it back in LH would make no sense ( not for some players that like it, not for those who don't ).
I've personally forwarded 2-3 different suggestions weeks ago, and no answer yet.
If the devs think to add it/do it, they will, if not, I can remind them as many times as I want, nothing will be done.
It's the first hour, of the first day
It's hard without you, I cannot lie
You were everything, and could have been
It's the first summer, of the first year
Today only rain, knocks on my window
And it reminds me, how much I loved you.
I fail to emerge
It's a universe, that wants me to get off
Fear catches me, and I start calling you.
It's the first night, when I feel cold
Your arms can no longer warm me
A cold soul, I cannot love.
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Originally posted by Gurothos View PostTarot works now, no reason to to put it back in Little Helper.
Locking Tarot and putting it back in LH would make no sense ( not for some players that like it, not for those who don't ).
I've personally forwarded 2-3 different suggestions weeks ago, and no answer yet.
If the devs think to add it/do it, they will, if not, I can remind them as many times as I want, nothing will be done.
having both option is what is what i suggested, having it like everything else that is in LH, those who want to do it can and those who don't can use LH
as for working, it didn't work right before and now it works less, it is worse than before and if it isn't going to be reverted back LH should be included as an option to avoid the frustration and still gain at least some rewards from it instead of skipping totally, which is what i have been doing.... you can see by the number of comments that I am not the only one who dislikes it the way it is
thank you for at least replying Gurothos and i do understand that it is up to the devs, just wanted to know if anything was passed alongShiny stuff makes me happy!!
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Hi Jenn,
Let me try and explain this as best I can. I to would like tarot in lh but I don't think this is going to happen. Let me explain why. I have played many Japanese rpg's because they are in a lot of cases extremely difficult but you get great rewards from the devs if you figure them out. So you have to get in the devs mind to understand the game and the consequences of your actions. Once your in the devs mind winning is much easier. We as players must never forget that the devs are not developing or fine tuning the events for practice. Simply put they would like to get paid for their efforts, no one can fault them for that. But there is a fine line that they try to walk. I suspect they felt the event as originally structured was too generous, and I guess I would have to agree. Having said that, tarot was removed and reworked to make it more difficult to get free rewards. Again I can't fault them for that. It is what it is. We as players have to adapt. If I had one message for the devs, it would be this. You my friend are getting precariously close to that line, which is: "Am I playing the game? or is the game playing me?
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The reason people who were cheating and optimization to prevent that is just an excuse to make it a more spendable event. For example, I understand you put questions into tarot to prevent bots to play it. However, 3 questions after lvl 8 seems your intention is not that. You are just trying to milk more money from the players and turn this into a more earning event. 1 question is more than enough to prevent the people cheat but as the lvl increases you make it impossible to complete events. More cards to flip and more questions to answer while the timer is still ticking. Greed over need is the best motto that suits this company
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