DODGE and BLOCK

[R268504349]

if I have 4000 block and 4000 dodge,
does block chance will interrupted the dodge chance?

[stevoski34]

good question

[andreicde]

no, it doesn't

[MagusRynd]

okay, so if according to algorithm both block and dodge are supposed to proc, dodge will prevail?

[Bl00dhell]

i think so, block give more chance to dodge

[qingyunjian]

Block does not give more chances to dodge, dodge is calculated first. If dodge procs then the calculation for block is then skipped, if dodge did not proc the calculation for block is then calculated

[MagusRynd]

oh kays, this clears it up. thanks

[Bl00dhell]

Block does not give more chances to dodge, dodge is calculated first. If dodge procs then the calculation for block is then skipped, if dodge did not proc the calculation for block is then calculated

sothat we dont need block. cuz block will ignore some dodge?

[R2352025]

idk far as most mmorpg algorithm go with block or dodge... it's always been and always have been a percentage... for instant if u had 4000 block that 40% chance rate of blocking.. and if u had 4000 dodge that 40% chance of blocking out of 100% and then if your attacker had (6000) 60% hit rate.. it dosent mean it'll be 40% - 60% giving them a 20% hit rate... dosent work like that.. so if u got a 40% blocking and dodge the attacker will still have 60% hit rate giving u a 40% chance of blocking or dodging.. it's like tossing a coin on 50/50.. higher dodge or blocking will not nuff hit rate it's still a toss of the wheel... where if u had 40% dodge/blocking and the attacker have 100% hit rate, u'll get 100% hit reguardless of your dodge or block.. this is why most player perfer on crit near end game.. the perfect sample is MAGE class always the strongest in near end game in all MMORPG class game

[Crimsyn_S40]

idk far as most mmorpg algorithm go with block or dodge... it's always been and always have been a percentage... for instant if u had 4000 block that 40% chance rate of blocking.. and if u had 4000 dodge that 40% chance of blocking out of 100% and then if your attacker had (6000) 60% hit rate.. it dosent mean it'll be 40% - 60% giving them a 20% hit rate... dosent work like that.. so if u got a 40% blocking and dodge the attacker will still have 60% hit rate giving u a 40% chance of blocking or dodging.. it's like tossing a coin on 50/50.. higher dodge or blocking will not nuff hit rate it's still a toss of the wheel... where if u had 40% dodge/blocking and the attacker have 100% hit rate, u'll get 100% hit reguardless of your dodge or block.. this is why most player perfer on crit near end game.. the perfect sample is MAGE class always the strongest in near end game in all MMORPG class game

Don't get me wrong, I know why you are trying to explain this by comparing it to other games, but realistically until we hear from the game itself, we don't know 100% how it works, and assuming how it works by comparing it to other games shouldnt we a starting point to explain it. I would have to go with what Qing has said about, that is the more possible explanation as to how it works.

[R2352025]

biggest reason i mention most MMROPG cuz there all from asia so the programing would be almost the same

[Freedom1987]

Some MMO's don't have mages, lol. As for all the other and most MMO's like Aion/Lineage2/Dragon Nest/Terra games mages gets mauled by mid rangeWarrior classes, Assasins or ranged classes like Archer, sure mages hits hard, but in most MMO's they also drops like flies as they have the lowest hp and def if not mdef, which is their specialty after all. So in short claiming in " in all MMORPG" mage classes always the strongest is just a arrogant and self proclaimed claim.

[R2352025]

LOL, you have very little depth in mages class, the only self proclaimed is the arrogant who think they know anything about the mages LOL... no i played all mmorpg mentioned above and no mage class is the most balance and easiest class to use... the only problem u think there weak is due to item mall and grinding base where it's various, that what make MMORPG so great and it's also the dumbest thing ever to say how fast the mage class drop =)... even now u all having problem with a mage class.. hecate herself is a mage class yet alot still cry over her, lol... suggest u attend a E4 event and watch the bot go at it with perfect programing,

class weakness has always been.... warrrior > archer > mage > warrior, nothing will change that.. put it in player mode then it become various over the weakness of mmorpg. every other sub class is just for fun and wallets

[Freedom1987]

LOL, you have very little depth in mages class, the only self proclaimed is the arrogant who think they know anything about the mages LOL... no i played all mmorpg mentioned above and no mage class is the most balance and easiest class to use... the only problem u think there weak is due to item mall and grinding base where it's various, that what make MMORPG so great and it's also the dumbest thing ever to say how fast the mage class drop =)... even now u all having problem with a mage class.. hecate herself is a mage class yet alot still cry over her, lol... suggest u attend a E4 event and watch the bot go at it with perfect programing,

class weakness has always been.... warrrior > archer > mage > warrior, nothing will change that.. put it in player mode then it become various over the weakness of mmorpg. every other sub class is just for fun and wallets

You sir made yourself look even dumber than I initially thought. And no I actually eat Hecate with my CLAW of similar BR. Mage is balanced? Not! in most cases mages are glass cannon, their great offense is countered by only their ever so low hp and physical atk vulnerability, don't talk ***** about knowing about most MMO's when you haven't played most, last time I checked a mages keeps dying by chain stun in every MMO's I played, LOA doesn't follow that generic line up you just put up above, all classes are differentiated based on their set skills and abilities here. No 2 MMO's out there are one in the same, so stop taking things out of your *** and start putting it in your mouth, and stop spreading mage supremacy ** here, stick to the topic of DODGE AND BLOCK.

[R2352025]

sometime i wonder if these reply even sink in that thick skull of the reader but i guess not, they all talk about how great and weak a class is and yet can never base it on ratio 1:1 but anyhow i stood with the topic it u who went out of the topic and decide to start bashing on non sense on top of **, LOL... likewise not our fault u play with dumb player that around your skills =) and making them seem weaker then then they should be ... so only dumb mofo is you who think he know wt-f there talking about, assuming everything of nothing.. so you should consider yourself first lol.. and no LOA follow the same setup so far, mage here are still ranked one unless otherwise archer have a great hidden update that not seen yet follow by warriors... and like wise soo many ppl claim they eat hecate and yet not real share fight of stats and br, LOL all talk and no show for **** over clay not to mention the massive br of element in hecate br mean nothing, lol... now dont be jelly cuz mage seem better, lol