DODGE and BLOCK

[Painindaback]

like i said who ever hit first.. but clearly there some misunderstanding

Shield spam - 210% + 1300 -30% atk power
fire ball - 180% + 1250
Wraithstriker - 200% + 1300 -42%def
if we base it on 500k HP

200k on SS - 421300 - 10000 pdef = 321300 dmg (-30% atk)
200k on FB - 361250 - 0 = 361250 dmg
200k on WS - 401300 - 10000 pdef = 301300 dmg

mage efffected
200k on Normal (effected - 30% atk) = 200000 - 60000 = 140000 dmg
mage recevied dmg
200k on Normal (effected 42% def) = 200000 - 32000 def = 168000 dmg


reason i didnt include dragon skills is due to the fact it's various for players.. but if u were to add lv3 dragon on both side it wouldnt matter cuz angel active rage at turn 4 anyway where both would have rage

Ye, apparently there's some misunderstanding...
200k? If you mean ATK, then I don't know what the hell have you been smoking. There's no way someone with 100k def can have 200k ATK and just 500k hp.

Also " 200k on Normal (effected 42% def) = 200000 - 32000 def = 168000 dmg "
This one bugs me... 32000? Shouldn't it be 58000?

I don't think you were thinking when writing this.

[R2352025]

mage recevied dmg
200k on Normal (effected 42% def) = 200000 dmg - 58000 def = 142000 dmg

nah u can get build like these, problem is element throw the BR rating out of balance.. for instant i got 60k element on hecate but dosent help it at all =D so my 280k realli only a 220k br hecate.. has element is only for element dmg and procs

nah it pretty late for me =D so i make mistake in maths =D... even now i'm still trying to figure out how arron hit me 600k flat rated, lol... the math is questionable

[Painindaback]

mage recevied dmg
200k on Normal (effected 42% def) = 200000 dmg - 58000 def = 142000 dmg

nah u can get build like these, problem is element throw the BR rating out of balance.. for instant i got 60k element on hecate but dosent help it at all =D so my 280k realli only a 220k br hecate.. has element is only for element dmg and procs

nah it pretty late for me =D so i make mistake in maths =D... even now i'm still trying to figure out how arron hit me 600k flat rated, lol... the math is questionable

Ok, now I'm really confused. I thought we were comparing main mage and warrior. But even with elemental damage a 100k DEF hero will NOT be able to have 200k ATK (elemental on main heroes can go as far as 50 per level, until level 80). Not to mention that elemental isn't even reduced by DEF so your calculations are completely wrong.
Try not to prove people wrong when you aren't thinking.

[R2352025]

oh no we are just comparing mage vs warrior...

my element talk was refering to your state of how can u have the stats i mention.. well u can, just very unlikely dependiny on how and which lvl of gem... i just random threw a number to compare

[Painindaback]

oh no we are just comparing mage vs warrior...

my element talk was refering to your state of how can u have the stats i mention.. well u can, just very unlikely dependiny on how and which lvl of gem... i just random threw a number to compare

Yeah... try to avoid writing when you can't think.
You're mentioning random stuff all the time confusing the rest. Either talk about the main warrior and mage classes, or all heroes as a whole. Don't just mention random hecates new mage heroes and so on.
And again, NO you can't get those stats. There's absolutely no way for a hero with 200k ATK and 100k DEF to have 500k HP. On my server there's a player with 620k hp, 167k ATK, 95-110k DEF. For a player to have those stats you mentioned.. even with elemental damage. He has to use lvl 9 gems, have about 40k elemental atk and REMOVE all hp gems (and maybe helm as well). If you build your character correctly you can never have such stats.
You are writing random numbers without even thinking for a second. Just take a break and refresh yourself so you won't spew **** like that.

[Freedom1987]

Cleric is nothing but a sub class of a mage =D not very bright there, lol
lol he call that a even match claw vs hecate, PFFT.. claw lv6.. hecate lv5 =)
there are 3 mages who are heavy cashier i know of and can beat me one sided =) they know who they are =) it'll be awhile before then come out to play... one of them already here u guys just too blind to see him yet... and again clearly u cant read, mmorpg is full of grinders and cashiers, until u grow a dumb mofo brain and learn wt-f 1:1 raito is then talk again
nah arrogant self proclaimed jackasses like you in the mid range who only can see as far as your leg extend =D thinking that all that there is to it have no idea wt-f there on about... trying to brag about **** =D

hehe hecate wasnt a brag, it was a point of interests how funny most players find it hard to beat... just u wait until the next mage hero release most will quit, lol

no LOA ranking class is mage > warrior > archer if u cant see why.. cuz all u can see is wallet and not 1:1.. then your gettin dumber on each reply =)

here a brain teaser =)

100k pdef/mdef on 200k warrior - wraithstriker
vs
100k pdef/mdef on 200k mage - fireball
= who gonna win =)

lol lvl 5 Hecate vs. lvl 6 CLAW? Have you seen the lvl 9 cherub stone and Nyssa 7 star on the Hecate VS. my CLAW LVL 7 cherub and Boadicea 5 star before talking through your *** again? And don't forget the emblems missing from my side jackass, what you saw was pure tactics to win the fight. The only jackass here is you ether, and no high end cash ***** ether, your tiny brain only seems to extend as far as your cash can extend it for you, your knowledge scope is very small just like you are yourself as a person. You clearly can't get it through your tiny brain how fruitless your bantering is every time you manage to reply, mofo please first grow a brain and more knowledge encyclopedia before you go tell people to grow dumb mofo brain, you should take your own advice as you yourself need to grow one rofl.

Nah, you are a self proclaimed arrogant jackass who can only see as far as your own wallet and your small inflated ego can, and nobody's is bragging here, except yourself, as always I keep pointing out your statement about mages being no.1 is so dead effed up assumption, while you go take that topic put it in your ***, and take it back out through your mouth, and come up with Hecate and LOA mages, and only use LOA examples to reinforce your belief on mage supremacy. While I kept on giving the full scope of my horizon of experience regarding mages and every other classes in other MMO's, in the end the only deciding factor is the skills and abilities, period.

It doesn't matter if Hecate uses magical attributes to heal, she still is a healer/cleric type dumbass, stop classifying Hecate as mage, I don't see her with any offensive spells, there's a difference between the 2, get it through your ***** brain ether jackass. Only thing you managed to do so far in reply is brag about the so called 3 mages and how scared you are, should everyone be scared too? ether kiss my ***, I don't give a ***** about your stature and the hidden 3 mages stature, cause we all know there's a endgame and we will meet each other on eye level soon enough.

So far the only so called "horrifying" term to spread terror among non-mage classes is fireball in the math lol, you seem to have a delusion about Fireball = insta win, you will never see a 1 on 1 fight in this game like your haphazard setup of yourself and your beloved Hecate, your build will crumble sooner or later when faced with multiple opponents of equal BR dmg output that can hit backrow in a combo fashion and figure out a way to rage faster. Take that grin off your face, you really look stupid, your seemingly over exaggerated perception of mages owning is getting dumber, only thing you managed to end the reply with was how scared you are of the 3 mages, how little you know about tactics and utilization of other heroes other than the main or any mage classes, and lastly the upcoming SnowQueen, possibly the strongest hero has nothing to do with this topic, I know all too well about her evolution and her no rage skill, unfortunately even with all that overwhelming advantage there will always be that light in darkness that will find it's way and give birth to a counter strategy, this game is all about strategies, that's the only reason that keeps people like me interested, as I demonstrated in earlier battle how I love the odds against me and apply strategies to win, unlike someone who takes ***** from their *** only to put it back in their mouth.

Hecate will bite the dust when faced with a equally powered CLAW, rest assured, and the only class that's capable of bringing out the best in CLAW is a Pally, not going to go in the detail as peoples are known notoriously to copy builds lol, but when it's out it's out but just not now.

Here's a brain teaser for you,

100k *****/100k ***** on a 200k ***** holding ether VS. 100k plunger/100k plunger on 200k Flushing Toilet me, who will win? LMFAO, your earlier comparison held about as much importance as my math deduction, cause you forgot to add in the Heroes+Angel+Aegis that can make or break the winning outcome in the end.

[andreicde]

please do show me a link freedom, I'm curious about that ''equally powered'' thing you are talking about, since I faced tons of hecates and there was no such thing as ''beating equal hecates''

[Freedom1987]

Go on 2nd page, you will see my fight link, equally is underestimated, I actually beat it underpowered.

[andreicde]

Go on 2nd page, you will see my fight link, equally is underestimated, I actually beat it underpowered.

oh those are easy. If he had his hecate in the back , could have been easy victory for him. Also, 2 men hecate are the big bombs atm and even your claw won't destroy that.

[Freedom1987]

lol he moved his Hecate in the front cause I whacked him with his Hacate in the back, now I can't show you a fight until he changes his formation again with Hecate in the back, if you wanna see our stats, go to S48 Transmogrify, look up my name and magicalnino.

[andreicde]

lol he moved his Hecate in the front cause I whacked him with his Hacate in the back, now I can't show you a fight until he changes his formation again with Hecate in the back, if you wanna see our stats, go to S48 Transmogrify, look up my name and magicalnino.

I don't need your name, I know a decent 2 men party will crush that build. Look at this for instance. I needed a combo to beat the guy's hecate since I can't 1 hit and It has 80k br more than the hecate(only lvl 8 cherub though compared to his lvl 9)

http://s4.angel.gtarcade.com/share.p...253a704a283339

[Freedom1987]

Sure it's not always a guaranteed win, but a 2 man party won't last long, when you add in other heroes in the equation, the build isn't invincible, it's 100% beatable. Thanks for sharing your video, my opinion hasn't changed at all.

[R2352025]

clearly some of idiot above have no idea what there talking about.. a test is based on same value not the possiable question of it been gainable or not, nah freedom your a mid range player who never get near end game, likewise u never see as far as your leg extend, and the more u reply of ** to is just lame, lol but likewise if your still playing long enough, i'll be galdy to pour you a brain later and many too =)

lol 2man build i made alot of copy had too many flaws, it was for my own befit making players copying it =) made it easier to win =).. likewise SS thoses stats..

mage will have there stand later near end game, fireball is a big game change near end game and if u cant see it let just stop until u can.. and no.. i've met claws near 250-300k.. 250k top dmg, your vid is based on a brainless player who didnt use bladestorm, it would of clear u up fast =)

[Freedom1987]

clearly some of idiot above have no idea what there talking about.. a test is based on same value not the possiable question of it been gainable or not, nah freedom your a mid range player who never get near end game, likewise u never see as far as your leg extend, and the more u reply of ** to is just lame, lol but likewise if your still playing long enough, i'll be galdy to pour you a brain later and many too =)

lol 2man build i made alot of copy had too many flaws, it was for my own befit making players copying it =) made it easier to win =).. likewise SS thoses stats..

mage will have there stand later near end game, fireball is a big game change near end game and if u cant see it let just stop until u can.. and no.. i've met claws near 250-300k.. 250k top dmg, your vid is based on a brainless player who didnt use bladestorm, it would of clear u up fast =)

First of all let me stop you there, we started this topic about Mage supremacy, now it turned around from mage supremacy to your high horse BULL *** ***** about how a mid casher like me won't see the end game, oops mid casher? No I actually didn't spend anything past the initial $50, so that puts me somewhere between mid cashers and free cashers jackass. Tell you what, shove the fireball up your *** dumba$$, first you get told by others about how you are pro at mixing up topics and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about sometime dumba$$. As for your ******* build with Hecate, there will be plenty of builds that can be worked around bring your *** down to earth jackass. I will give you a hint on how, imagine A CLAW+Arcane Spirit combo, one of the possible combo to take down your *** in the future on equal footing in atk, if stun lands, your nightmare begins, if not that's fine, the way the builds are going to work in the future especially a pally, can make it possible to go first 3 turns with skill spam on full rage, how? Figure out yourself, that's a math for you to solve. And then we have Angel, who can accumulate rage much faster with 1 main and 4 hero skills and atk much earlier as opposed to 1 main and 1 hero ty to the rune ability. I am not even gonna talk about how Totem lord added to team list and utilize a certain tactics will make your build literally crumble, enjoy while you can.

Game changer right? Well first your fireball, and then god knows when your next fireball happening, there's such a team that can be built, it's all in the equation, look around and see through all the possibilities, and the fact you are so hung up on Fireball's explosive dmg alone makes you a dimwit that can't see past the big numbers. And I won't see the endgame? lol oh you will see me a lot more I guarantee you that, these are the kind of challenges makes this game so fun to play.

[Carchadion]

clearly some of idiot above have no idea what there talking about.. a test is based on same value not the possiable question of it been gainable or not, nah freedom your a mid range player who never get near end game, likewise u never see as far as your leg extend, and the more u reply of ** to is just lame, lol but likewise if your still playing long enough, i'll be galdy to pour you a brain later and many too =)

lol 2man build i made alot of copy had too many flaws, it was for my own befit making players copying it =) made it easier to win =).. likewise SS thoses stats..

mage will have there stand later near end game, fireball is a big game change near end game and if u cant see it let just stop until u can.. and no.. i've met claws near 250-300k.. 250k top dmg, your vid is based on a brainless player who didn't use bladestorm, it would of clear u up fast =)

just pointing out but if somebody gives same treatment on other ruby troop than hecate it's beatable,but most of the time ones whit hecate are also biggest spenders so it gives total false image since money is bigger power here than any class. just remember that. it goes for mains also. and btw i would say if char is already lvl74 he is going to be on end game whit pretty high chance. if people quit they do it normally before lvl70