POLL: Wartune 5.0 The Dark Age Regression

[JkLoser87]

One intressting note is that mods usually quick to come and try and explain and defend r2, however since the patch come out it's been very low of that. Maybe even the mods that are just volountering are starting to understand that r2 doesn't give a **** about players(all I've seen is some censoring, guess they don't write cause they know as well as we do that r2 stepped over the line this time)

[Imonseph]

So what if wartune goes down the drain?
R2 host so many MMO games, and they still generate tons of revenue from other game sources.
So they don't give a ** about how players have been faithful to a particular game (esp. when it's a clone),
and not given up hopes on it, after each disappointment time and again with every new optimization patch.

The reality: game patches aren't even tested for player feedback on test servers before releasing it to the rest of the server population.
Reason? They are pressing and squeezing the cows dry of their milk before leaving them for dead. Constant recharge events alrdy foreshadow this.


The gd news is: game addicts can now be forced to break away from a childish and condescending game
with the greatest calamity that will still yet to befall Wartune (e.g. a major server merge clash that causes players to lose their accounts)

[Arlad]

i pick option #3: No, because "The end of wartune" already started a few patches ago. its not the final nail in the coffin, but also not the first one. but its certainly a bigger nail than usual.

[P-J-J]

I think that there is mixed two things - issue with R2Games as a company - and issues with Wartune as a game.

Wartune as a game is going downfall as we can see even in the Maintenance message that they made untested mistake (non-terminated string) that can be easily found and corrected after first look.
Game has low development support as bugs are corrected in lower rate than before and recent patches (all 3 from 5.0 inclusive) have untested features even they spent 3 weeks on test servers.
Somebody got ideas to create eudemon stuff on base of kid system, but after 2 months it looks like unfinished idea that makes more problems (lag, marriage advantages etc) than if we got original system from China (with new pictures replacing fighting kids)
There are lots of unfinished ideas (why all animals are in the same pasture, if the second pool is empty for a month?)
Each patch we count only what will be nerfed, how they affect playability with reduced drops (or drops changed to pay-only drops), and seeing improvements (like the Divine Energy in EF NM) is more rare.
Not mentioning the memory hogs, downloads of objects from other 7road game, and enormous logging causing major lags until unplayable.
In summary:
- we have 2nd evolved sylphs and materials for them is cash only
- feature of fused sylphs as next evolution is big whales only, seeing no future in other areas it looks like golden parachute at the end of game
- we have got 6th class of eudemon, but drops of equipment to upgrade his gear (BTW, why is not interchangeable like sylphs even on same class?) are available for cash and skill system is 3 year future even for the oldest eudemon, not mentioning 64 spaces in inventory
- all events reduced to slow down evolution to retain people as long as possible (while irrigating new ones as mission impossible = less and less new players)
- fate stones return and Captain/General titles issue to drop history for old players?
- Auction House?

R2Games is something different:
- they could survive even after Wartune finishes using the new game drops, if they attract us.
- any sales people will tell you the truth - getting new customer is more costly than to retain and upsell existing. R2 is doing the opposite, they alienate its own customers by saying to same issue different things each week.
- untrained support staff, with low English and game industry knowledge (after sent detail log of communication errors between server and client, they asked for picture?) only bullying developers
- Community staff that forgets to attract people to give candies of future features (so we will give a more chance, maybe month ), mentors without R2 knowledge support, moderators without experience fighting in threads where they should be neutral?
- new portal that makes more problems, BTW look at www.realitysquaredgames.com as first and still unfinished portal of R2. With developer unable to accept this failure.
- infrastructure staff that constantly have issues to monitor servers, never read about performance and saving costs on low aggregation with incapable virtualization in place.
- I see no responsibility for their mistakes and bullying customers, developers, distributor seems not very professional

And last but not least, R2Games makes me feel that everything bad is the developers, not only in Wartune as I tried other R2 games. Unfortunately I have accounts on China clones (including 7road) and the support (even Baidu online translator is my best friend) is better than here. But for many of my game friends, poor translation, support and community work ... distract from anything Chinese developed, albeit it is R2 customized

So I vote R2Games Wartune clone is facing it death.

[Meikura001]

I am glad to know there are people who share the same disappointment for this game as I have. In times that I had voiced several suggestions to the letter, it comes up short because of the stubbornness of R2. You asked for one thing and you wind up with something completely different. I know I had voiced that it was my fault the "hide all" came to light as I had originally suggested it. My ideal function for such would be to hide all the players in places like BG (own team, you can freely attack others at will), in guild battle (where it gets to be laggy when so many people show up), in guild boss (same thing); that was supposed to be like that. Instead, and after a few people had made it known to me that it wasn't truly my fault, R2 decide to mess with us in hiding the wrong damn things at the wrong times.

Another suggestion I had made had shown me the competence level of said people at R2. It was relatively simple: put all the mini-games into an icon and bring them back from weekly to daily. I mean, it's not that hard, right? Instead, they made it a once a week thing (on certain days, makes me feel about a Del Taco commercial where tacos were a certain price on a certain day of the week), and they expect us to enjoy the game?

As I have said in another post, I will say here towards R2: "maybe you can convince toddlers in your own country to your cheapness, but you won't convince me or any other player who is smart enough to know not to settle for <expletive>. Our logic isn't the same as yours."

Now, if we are talking about a fix, I would like to literally suggest a few:

1. Keep the daily check-ins as it is. It looks okay.
2. Put the daily devotion (rewards) back to 95 as the max. Anything beyond that is extra credit since many of us do different things to get that magic number.
3. Remove the "Hide All Objects" button. It's in the wrong spot and situation.
4. If you're going to keep that game box, put back Goodies Link and Underground Palace as players often fancy themselves with such (UP: I call it the <expletive> zapper when the lightning hits my guy upon death). Make the games daily, as suggested and ideal.
5. Remove that cross server matching thing. I don't think it is benefiting anyone whatsoever as it causes problems when cancelled. Also, I think this was the cause of the first lag as well since it has to constantly "auto-match" even without people on it, thus adding to the network load.
6. Fix the damn cache problem. It was gone since 5.0, it was gone since 5.1 (last time), and it is gone now. Telling us to clear our cache is retarded when there is none present.
7. Keep the players hidden by default in Cloud City. If players want to see each other, then they can uncheck the button to show.
8. Certain events were beneficial and unlimited. Bring those back, you're not going to keep players if you skimp on them. Asking them to spend just to make ends meet is also a no-no (not with this bunch).
9. For the love of God, if you're going to take out EQ from dungeons, make it so that people can buy the refine crystals with gold, insignias, or guild contribution. Putting them for balens isn't going to make it all better. Or, even so, make them drop along (do not remove other stuff just to make it fit as I had seen about 10-15 items on the list of possibles before said patch took them out) with the stuff in MPDs so people will have some incentive.
10. Either put back the gold as a source on Atoll Boss, or tell us how we are going to get more gold for the expensive forges you got going. For now, i will be running out of mount refine spaces, thus forcing me to get new mounts (if I decide to stay on board with this hope) so that one person's remark will be true to me, so my gold collection from there will kind of cease.

I am going to stop at 10, but I am sure there are others with needs with the hopes to bring this game back and having you save face. You can do these (and more), or you can stay in your stubborn forms and drive this game into the ground and linger with a feedback for years to come as other countries may not want anything to do with you.

[AdaJames]

Only reason I am even on VIP at the moment is the astral collection. Once I have maxxed them, I will be dropping VIP like a hot potato.

I have already stopped buying balens 10 months ago.

[R212958716]

only point against this is that some heavy cashers that have the power to change direction of the game dont see with open eyes, so they also have to learn the hard way: r2 doesnt care for any kind of player

This is true. This is the one thing that will make them evaluate a least a little bit that there is a problem. But even if 1-2 heavy cashers leave or stop the cashing, the VIP people provide a nice net of money.
The only way to change it to stop all cashing. That will be extremely difficult to do in a competitive game.

[Froggster]

they started with a fake and they will end the same. players forgive a lot but not all. they dont care about the fake rating, but they dont forget the behavior of the company when it comes to treatment of players.

only players that feel that companies care for them will stay. many other game companies had to find out the hard way that its easy to make mistakes in few months but to recover from gamers reactions takes years, and some didnt recover from their mistakes at all.

only point against this is that some heavy cashers that have the power to change direction of the game dont see with open eyes, so they also have to learn the hard way: r2 doesnt care for any kind of player

[Sorca]

So what do you think players, is it the start of a Dark age never to see a Renaissance? I believe so.

Totally agree with you. All I can say is that I will stop to play any other "free to play". Wartune from r2games is probably the worst in this crappy category, though.

[AdaJames]

There is a path of return. All they have to do is to regress the patches back to v3 or so. That should take out all of the biggest problems, which were mainly a result of Patch 5, and also bring the rewards for events back to where they were.

In one fell swoop, R2 can give us back the game that many people fell in love with.

However, they won't because that would be admitting they got things wrong in the first place. R2 would never do that. They would rather the game fall apart than that. In anyone's lexicon, that is sheer arrogance.

[Enehasd]

soon this game will die and will leave a bad mark on those responsible for it.

Unfortunately, it's not on a global market and therefore can be erased easily.
These people working at R2 do not have a conscience. This si why such things have been happening. All we can hope for now is the day it turns into Broken Realm and we get infinite balens to spend on whatever we like just like Broken Realm.

[blazefire2015]

soon this game will die and will leave a bad mark on those responsible for it.

[Enehasd]

Agreed,
needs all chaning