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Will there be a LvL 65 pvp set in this english version of wartune?
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Five Sylphs for the Heros in wartune,
Two for the Whales in their deep blue ocean,
Three for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Big Whales on their dark throne
In the Land of Wartune where the heroes lie.
One sylph to crush them all, One sylph to kill mobs,
One sylph to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Wartune where the Moby duck lie."
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ok there it goes:
1) As soon as the patch 1.5 introduced clothing there are distinct and drastic shift for pve set:
1.1.) Knights dont need this set unless you wanna be a godlike, because of 10 rage per action perk. Note: if kattukt is knight we clearly can see why he insists pvp makes more dmg (cause with initial 45+ rage knight probly cant run out of rage in pvp battle even with pvp55 set)
1.2.) Mage got tremendous advantage for both pvp/pve set due to low CD on their AoE attacks and also possibility to save rage for some ultimate healing, which means that additional 15+ rage turns out they can pull out all sorts of nasty things, also - means they can AoE in 1st turn if they upgrade cloth a bot even with pve set effectively nullifying the advantage of pvp over pve at the beginning of battle
1.3.) Archers now have tough decision - pvp55 + clothing with opening lunatic fire (which in fact may lead to 0 rage situation if ooponents have high PDEF and ANTICRIT and a loss after that) or pve50/60 with clothing, which leads to arrow/MSH opening with further options but still at least at turn 3 archer already has nullified the pvp55 30 rage advance netting further gains only. Considering even battles usually are longer than 60 on counter = more than 5 turns id say pve is a sure bet to do.
And finally pve50 you say - check Athena S5 as an example of full pve50 set monster. And think twice before you state you can kill every pve50 user out thereServer: S5
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Originally posted by shynnblu View Postyea and then u went on to mention you can win ALL players wearing 50 pve legend set cuz you're wearing 55 pvp set. anyone who read the thread from the first page to the last can tell you are contradictory because you changed your opinion while insisting correctness.
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Originally posted by Byronsan View Postok there it goes:
1) As soon as the patch 1.5 introduced clothing there are distinct and drastic shift for pve set:
1.1.) Knights dont need this set unless you wanna be a godlike, because of 10 rage per action perk. Note: if kattukt is knight we clearly can see why he insists pvp makes more dmg (cause with initial 45+ rage knight probly cant run out of rage in pvp battle even with pvp55 set)
1.2.) Mage got tremendous advantage for both pvp/pve set due to low CD on their AoE attacks and also possibility to save rage for some ultimate healing, which means that additional 15+ rage turns out they can pull out all sorts of nasty things, also - means they can AoE in 1st turn if they upgrade cloth a bot even with pve set effectively nullifying the advantage of pvp over pve at the beginning of battle
1.3.) Archers now have tough decision - pvp55 + clothing with opening lunatic fire (which in fact may lead to 0 rage situation if ooponents have high PDEF and ANTICRIT and a loss after that) or pve50/60 with clothing, which leads to arrow/MSH opening with further options but still at least at turn 3 archer already has nullified the pvp55 30 rage advance netting further gains only. Considering even battles usually are longer than 60 on counter = more than 5 turns id say pve is a sure bet to do.
And finally pve50 you say - check Athena S5 as an example of full pve50 set monster. And think twice before you state you can kill every pve50 user out there
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostYup archers and mages shoot for PvE set but remember that a mage with PvE wont hit nearly as ahard as one with PvP but will be able to heal alot more quickly!!
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I wouldn't change my 50 PvE set for the 55 PvP set for all the tea in China...Originally posted by CreamySaucepanYou are just a freakozoid... Monster of Frankenstein meets Jabba the Hutt... Frabba the Huttstein... :POriginally posted by CreamySaucepanBehind every fat Space Slug is a blood thirsty sociopath urging it on.
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Originally posted by DeathRiver View PostI would, since I can buy me a level 60 Legend Set with the price of all the tea in China.Originally posted by CreamySaucepanYou are just a freakozoid... Monster of Frankenstein meets Jabba the Hutt... Frabba the Huttstein... :POriginally posted by CreamySaucepanBehind every fat Space Slug is a blood thirsty sociopath urging it on.
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Originally posted by krackenker View PostKidding me? lot less? A pvp mage with pve set will have higher DPH (maybe 500 more dmg/bolt) BUT my DPS will be better, because i can spam meteor/rof that does 1.5x the dmg of a bolt, try pve set mage before going on about how it pvp set hits harder.
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostWell you seem to underestimate the -2000 PDEF ignore quite a bit.... the stats on 55 set is already better than the stats on 50 PvE( legendary stats could be better but not bu much) i can pretty much guarantee that i would beat anyone with a 50 legendary set(I have 55 set).... I have fought hordes of players with 50 legendary set and they cant win just coz they can never do enough damage to me.... an archer with even 16k PATK hits me for 2k with the PvE set but the same archer will hit me for 4.5k with PvP set... level 60 PvE set is better yes but NOT level 50 PvE... plus the PDEF ignore shows itself even more with more powerful skills.... a delphic can do almost 50% more with the PvP set
> an archer with even 16k PATK hits me for 2k with the PvE set
not true.... for that u need have 14 K defence, that he do 2Kdmg. And even with 55set wich ignore 2K defence, he do not 4K but 3Kdmg... i dont count effect from astro, amuler, and spell lvl. So, u say not true somewhere.
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And, evryone know that pve set should be legandary... in other why no point to compare them with pve.
Bonus wich kattukk ignore would be: more HP, Better defence, more mana recover,dmg around the same.
Also, i have set 55pvp. lvl 59 around 50K battel rating. And i am a mage, and i say, it hard to kill pve leg set. Even if i do more dmg, i lose in other way. because of less mana. He can recover HP, and use stronger spell then me in the same time.
And because of that i lost even if he was lower in battel rating.
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