People complaining about "stealing" ancient seeds

[Daehawk]

I'm selfish because I don't want your seeds so I don't want you taking my seeds? If I was selfish, I'd be taking your seeds and not giving you any of mine. Obviously you need other people's seeds to complete your own mount and I don't and you're hoping to leech off others. Who's being selfish?

What's funny is that most who thinks stealing is "okay" are non-cashers, and most who thinks stealing is annoying are cashers. At the end of the day that's what it really comes down to. If everyone could afford a mount, there'd be no point in stealing. Stealing only makes sense for those who can't afford the mount but want the mount anyways.

Ya I said it, flame on.

I know more cashers that don't care about stealing then non-cashers. But mostly that's because they just buy the boxes and get the mount and then have their farms open for steals. Depends on your server though depends on the people.

[Tranc3motion]

You're super duper selfish! You only want them for yourself only for a mount! I
harvested ancients already and my virtual friends have no problem.

I'm selfish because I don't want your seeds so I don't want you taking my seeds? If I was selfish, I'd be taking your seeds and not giving you any of mine. Obviously you need other people's seeds to complete your own mount and I don't and you're hoping to leech off others. Who's being selfish?

What's funny is that most who thinks stealing is "okay" are non-cashers, and most who thinks stealing is annoying are cashers. At the end of the day that's what it really comes down to. If everyone could afford a mount, there'd be no point in stealing. Stealing only makes sense for those who can't afford the mount but want the mount anyways.

Ya I said it, flame on.

[Daehawk]

Your math is off way off.

1. MAX amount of seeds is 140 not 152. If we only go by the free events.

Hero's Call = 35
Mount Trainer = 35
Warrior's Training = 14
Rule the Battleground! = 21
Dungeon Slayer! = 35

35+35+14+21+35 = 140

Now lets move on to what you say next:

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1.820 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 180 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 1.960 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or steal 40 Spirits from farm friends for Mount
Farm level 7-8 15 Seeds per: 2.100 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 300 for One of each clothing.
Farm level 9 - (10 don't know what it gives) 16 Seeds per: 2.240 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 160 for One of each clothing.

Not sure where your math is off.

You're off because you're not counting all instances of free Seeds. The initial days of the Dungeon Slayer, Warrior's Training, and Mount Trainer are Double giving more seeds. 2 More for Warrior's Training, 5 More for Dungeon Slayer, 5 More for Mount Training. Equals the 12 seeds you're not calculating that are free seeds.

All new quests activate at 0:00 Server time. And then reset again at 05:00 Server. This means that on days that new quests are added ones that aren't Time related can be done during 0:00 Server and 05:00 then again on the same day past 05:00 server when dailies reset. This adds up to 12 More seeds from Mount Trainer, Warrior's Training, and Dungeon Slayer.

you're not getting my point, the pie in the sky part is any figure that calculates 0 theft

Yes but it also shows there is a leeway of min 128 spirits for level 4+ Farm lands, not sure why anyone would still have level 1-3 still getting level 4 is pretty easy. I've had 0 stolen from me, while I've taken some from players that don't want their spirits because they've already bought the mount on day 2 of the event. They plant seeds and tell people to steal them.

[Nimras186]

Hero's Call = 35 Seeds, Mount Trainer = 40 Seeds, Rule The Battleground = 21, Warrior's Training = 16 Dungeon Slayer = 40
Total Seeds: 152.

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1,976 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 24 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 2,128 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or Mount
Farm level 7-X 15 Seeds per: 2,280 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 120 for One of each clothing.

I think there's enough to go around where everyone can get the mount free without spending. And where players with level 1-3 farm(even though getting to 4 is pretty easy) can steal just 24 to make it.

It just depends on how much people over steal or how often you get stolen from.

Your math is off way off.

1. MAX amount of seeds is 140 not 152. If we only go by the free events.

Hero's Call = 35
Mount Trainer = 35
Warrior's Training = 14
Rule the Battleground! = 21
Dungeon Slayer! = 35

35+35+14+21+35 = 140

Now lets move on to what you say next:

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1.820 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 180 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 1.960 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or steal 40 Spirits from farm friends for Mount
Farm level 7-8 15 Seeds per: 2.100 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 300 for One of each clothing.
Farm level 9 - (10 don't know what it gives) 16 Seeds per: 2.240 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 160 for One of each clothing.

Not sure where your math is off.

[PunkPetal]

Just be sure to hit all the double days.

Here's a calendar I made for another publisher for the event. R2 has the same event quests as I check in game on things in R2 from time to time.

HC = Hero's Call
MT = Mount Trainer
RTB = Rule the Battleground
WT = Warrior's Training
DS = Dungeon Slayer

you're not getting my point, the pie in the sky part is any figure that calculates 0 theft

[BlueEarth]

Oh, it's coming... and it's Balens only.

Oh, that is why they made this ancient seed... So that players will realize how bad you will feel when you were stolen, and thus, will have a need for protection against thiefs, using balens only, which means more money.. Now, that is really, really very clever..!!!!!

[Daehawk]

Your maths is pie in the sky, I have a level 7 farm, and other than the 5 seeds missed through server downtime I have collected and planted all seeds. I have acquired a total of 841 spirits...

I have stolen a few times, but I haven't camped

Just be sure to hit all the double days.

Here's a calendar I made for another publisher for the event. R2 has the same event quests as I check in game on things in R2 from time to time.

HC = Hero's Call
MT = Mount Trainer
RTB = Rule the Battleground
WT = Warrior's Training
DS = Dungeon Slayer

[PunkPetal]

Hero's Call = 35 Seeds, Mount Trainer = 40 Seeds, Rule The Battleground = 21, Warrior's Training = 16 Dungeon Slayer = 40
Total Seeds: 152.

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1,976 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 24 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 2,128 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or Mount
Farm level 7-X 15 Seeds per: 2,280 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 120 for One of each clothing.

I think there's enough to go around where everyone can get the mount free without spending. And where players with level 1-3 farm(even though getting to 4 is pretty easy) can steal just 24 to make it.

It just depends on how much people over steal or how often you get stolen from.

Your maths is pie in the sky, I have a level 7 farm, and other than the 5 seeds missed through server downtime I have collected and planted all seeds. I have acquired a total of 841 spirits...

I have stolen a few times, but I haven't camped

[kurgan2001]

Oh, it's coming... and it's Balens only.

Hell.......................no

[KnowingEyes7]

don't forget vouchers.

Oh, it's coming... and it's Balens only.

[kurgan2001]

Next topic: Protection for crops using Balens. Discuss. :P

don't forget vouchers.

[Daehawk]

Hero's Call = 35 Seeds, Mount Trainer = 40 Seeds, Rule The Battleground = 21, Warrior's Training = 16 Dungeon Slayer = 40
Total Seeds: 152.

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1,976 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 24 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 2,128 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or Mount
Farm level 7-X 15 Seeds per: 2,280 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 120 for One of each clothing.

I think there's enough to go around where everyone can get the mount free without spending. And where players with level 1-3 farm(even though getting to 4 is pretty easy) can steal just 24 to make it.

It just depends on how much people over steal or how often you get stolen from.

[KnowingEyes7]

Next topic: Protection for crops using Balens. Discuss. :P

[PunkPetal]

U r so dumb just don't know how the system work. The system will not allow your crops to fall below a certain percentage when friends steal. How many people can steal? 3 or 4? So what is the matter for deleting them or blacklisting friends for over some ancient spirits cost some cents really? U can upgrade your farm land to maximum output what? It's just a game come on . I wonder how u have friends in real life .

A few cents? Each steal is 3 of your crops 3*9 is 27, that works out at between 89 to 267 balens PER CROP

Add that up over the event duration... ^^

[kurgan2001]

Maximum farm level requires you to have about 100k vouchers or 100k balens.

Not impossible to get 100k vouchers .. would take a looooooooong time, but doable.