Cross server battle ground sucks!

[Kastergir]

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Either you havent read half of what I wrote, or you misunderstood it. I notice you like to asume a position in a convesation where you can dominate the convo, as well as where it looks like your points are not debateable. You actually do not respond to what people post, but only produce and promote your own understanding. Whats the point in debating with you?

[KnowingEyes7]

Yes this is good, if they cant stand ppl stacking dryads on them pls recharge 1000k balens like namira and get to 90k or 160k br like chinese server.

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[KnowingEyes7]

I have played a few BGs last days, and overall I think its a nice Idea. But it has flaws. When I go into a BG, attack noone, kill 2 npcs and get 2 kills from being attacked, and next thing I know = I am down 179 Honor from being attacked by Dryad hunters...something is wrong.

There are no flaws as you're not working the system. You're letting yourself get attacked by lower numerically honored players. You cannot let this happen and should take steps to prevent it. If that means less waltzing around, that's the price you pay.

By the way, what is your purpose or activity in BG? Are you trying to cart? Are you hunting for players? Also, what is your server number and character level? I'll be happy to jump on and take a gander.

Dont tell me its my fault for not having the BT to back my honor lvl...I am strongest Mage on my Server and routinely beat people there who have 1 more Astral and 2 lvls over me.

I assume you are a Crusader. Are you telling us that virtually every player in your CSBGs is under this honor? Come on. Mages have some easily divulged tricks to ensure their survivability too. If you're getting sat down when you're the "most powerful mage on your server", something is wrong with *this* not the honor system.

Dont tell me I must have gotten to Crusader by killing countless weaker ones on Server BGs and now get the payback...cos I didnt. I rarely got over 10 kills in my Servers BGs. What I did was hunting the nub griever Serialkillers, they paid nice honor. Also didnt miss a single GB, that also paid nicely.

Good for you; you played honorably. The problem is the honor points don't take this facet of gameplay into consideration. Another issue is now *you* are the higher honor numerical/titled player that will be constantly targeted. Why? Players understand you will be giving a "nice chunk of honor" - just as you attacked others before you.

SO: Some Elite Warrior pumps up on 40, 50% Dryads and kills me for me loosing 200 honor is by no means acceptable. Simply cos I almost have no way making the Honor back. If I think to go out and stack Dryads myself, ill loose more Honor. Also, not many Knight Crusaders and above at my lvl bracket, so whats the point? If I go the serialkiller way to try and make back the honor...I will inevidably run into DryadStackers again.

If you can't chain kill, then you must wait until the playing field is more balanced. If you are towards the top of the list in honor, you will be targeted and this is the price you pay.

Something is wrong with the System, when youre rendered useless and the Victim while actually being the strongest player on the field. Bugs me even more cos I made MY honor the nice way, NOT grieving countless weaker players. Its called "Honor" after all not "BullyPoints" - or "sneaky DryadStacker points" for that matter. If those guys would at least go after the serialkillers...but NO...

Nice way or not, your honor rank+ is the key. You ascended the ranks... and now the rubber band effect is pulling you back. You have to play far more cautious.

Imho, CSBGs will be a desert soon, with nubgrievers and DryadStackers killing each other. People who simply enjoyed playing it, and were happy with the Rewards from boxes will stop joining, therefore alos being locked out of the Boxes rewards. Which makes CSBGs as they are now a fail imho.

Absolutely not. Players always go this route when they want to make an emphasis. Server will die. Event will die. Money lost. Plenty will continue to play at least to limp to the minimum PvP points for a mark. By the way, if you are the strongest mage, are you racking up the kills in GA/3v3? You get PvP points there too, ya know. Mark obtained; problem solved.

[R21577189]

No, I am not agreeing with everything R2 does. Actually, it's 7ROAD that creates everything and R2 just alters transactional costs/localizes. That's it. The "socket rods costing 100 dollars" comment is beyond comprehension and drips with facetiousness, so I won't even bother.

BG promotes bullying no matter what the involved system at play as it's PvP. BG also rewards those who spend, just like the arena matchups, GB and a slew of other events.

What I don't understand is there wasn't any complaining about this at the time of the announcement of 1.5. It was clearly put forth the event was cross server so anyone 60-70+ knew the pain was coming. The only real defenses to this was to spend more, to cease leveling at x9 or, as you aptly put, to not participate.

Yes this is good, if they cant stand ppl stacking dryads on them pls recharge 1000k balens like namira and get to 90k or 160k br like chinese server.

[KnowingEyes7]

Why not just dont do BG at all? Seriously idk whats up with you but it seems you never disagree with anything R2 does.They can make socket rods cost 100 dollars each and you probably say "OH good job R2!" Not trying be an *** and apologize if I do but it just seems that nothing R2 does is wrong to you. The honor system and losing honor just promotes even more bullying and prevents players for even partaking in BG. The whole thing needs a revamp and I shouldn't have to wait 15+months or spend thousands of dollars to get VIP 9 just to play BG with no worries.

No, I am not agreeing with everything R2 does. Actually, it's 7ROAD that creates everything and R2 just alters transactional costs/localizes. That's it. The "socket rods costing 100 dollars" comment is beyond comprehension and drips with facetiousness, so I won't even bother.

BG promotes bullying no matter what the involved system at play as it's PvP. BG also rewards those who spend, just like the arena matchups, GB and a slew of other events.

What I don't understand is there wasn't any complaining about this at the time of the announcement of 1.5. It was clearly put forth the event was cross server so anyone 60-70+ knew the pain was coming. The only real defenses to this was to spend more, to cease leveling at x9 or, as you aptly put, to not participate.

[R21577189]

I have played a few BGs last days, and overall I think its a nice Idea. But it has flaws. When I go into a BG, attack noone, kill 2 npcs and get 2 kills from being attacked, and next thing I know = I am down 179 Honor from being attacked by Dryad hunters...something is wrong.

Dont tell me its my fault for not having the BT to back my honor lvl...I am strongest Mage on my Server and routinely beat people there who have 1 more Astral and 2 lvls over me.

Dont tell me I must have gotten to Crusader by killing countless weaker ones on Server BGs and now get the payback...cos I didnt. I rarely got over 10 kills in my Servers BGs. What I did was hunting the nub griever Serialkillers, they paid nice honor. Also didnt miss a single GB, that also paid nicely.

SO: Some Elite Warrior pumps up on 40, 50% Dryads and kills me for me loosing 200 honor is by no means acceptable. Simply cos I almost have no way making the Honor back. If I think to go out and stack Dryads myself, ill loose more Honor. Also, not many Knight Crusaders and above at my lvl bracket, so whats the point? If I go the serialkiller way to try and make back the honor...I will inevidably run into DryadStackers again.

Something is wrong with the System, when youre rendered useless and the Victim while actually being the strongest player on the field. Bugs me even more cos I made MY honor the nice way, NOT grieving countless weaker players. Its called "Honor" after all not "BullyPoints" - or "sneaky DryadStacker points" for that matter.

like what condorhero says its fair , u ask for this level bracket so u have to live with it.
n according to him, probably u must have been bullying lower BR in your server.
So it must be fairer now.

[Kastergir]

I have played a few BGs last days, and overall I think its a nice Idea. But it has flaws. When I go into a BG, attack noone, kill 2 npcs and get 2 kills from being attacked, and next thing I know = I am down 179 Honor from being attacked by Dryad hunters...something is wrong.

Dont tell me its my fault for not having the BR to back my honor lvl...I am strongest Mage on my Server and routinely beat people there who have 1 more Astral and 2 lvls over me.

Dont tell me I must have gotten to Crusader by killing countless weaker ones on Server BGs and now get the payback...cos I didnt. I rarely got over 10 kills in my Servers BGs. What I did was hunting the nub griever Serialkillers, they paid nice honor. Also didnt miss a single GB, that also paid nicely.

SO: Some Elite Warrior pumps up on 40, 50% Dryads and kills me for me loosing 200 honor is by no means acceptable. Simply cos I almost have no way making the Honor back. If I think to go out and stack Dryads myself, ill loose more Honor. Also, not many Knight Crusaders and above at my lvl bracket, so whats the point? If I go the serialkiller way to try and make back the honor...I will inevidably run into DryadStackers again. Plus, I wouldnt want to do that anyway, s just not my Style.

Something is wrong with the System, when youre rendered useless and the Victim while actually being the strongest player on the field. Bugs me even more cos I made MY honor the nice way, NOT grieving countless weaker players. Its called "Honor" after all not "BullyPoints" - or "sneaky DryadStacker points" for that matter. If those guys would at least go after the serialkillers...but NO...

Imho, CSBGs will be a desert soon, with nubgrievers and DryadStackers killing each other. People who simply enjoyed playing it, and were happy with the Rewards from boxes will stop joining, therefore also being locked out of the Boxes rewards. Which makes CSBGs as they are now a fail imho.

[R21577189]

Yep..i agree...this new BG is better than the last time...I Love this new BG (killed lots of new peps..mwahahaha)...got 1k-2k honor almost everytime...got also 700+ honor coz i got killed...well, thats that..."You win some, you lose some"...its the way of life...as they say "You cant win them all"...all you have to do is get stronger...think smart, play smart..

yes i agree play smart , even non casher 30k br can kill full casher 60k br with 10 dryads and attacking that 60k br casher after it has done battle.

[R21577189]

I didn't say you ask for this bracket. I said players ask for this bracket. But you know, like I said, you can't please everyone.
One bracket favors one player; another bracket favors another.

I must say this is better than 40-80 BG.

I understand it sucks to lose honor like that. I really do. I don't play BG much before the patch, and I don't play BG much after the patch. I get my honor mostly from GBs. I have little risk of losing honor just mainly because I don't play.

yup u r right,

serve them right for being in same bg with a server 4 to 6 months earlier than them.

Maybe serve them right for going to new server and having cross server bg.

[ImaOhw]

I must say this is better than 40-80 BG.

Yep..i agree...this new BG is better than the last time...I Love this new BG (killed lots of new peps..mwahahaha)...got 1k-2k honor almost everytime...got also 700+ honor coz i got killed...well, thats that..."You win some, you lose some"...its the way of life...as they say "You cant win them all"...all you have to do is get stronger...think smart, play smart..

[CondorHero]

I never suggested BG be divided in the first place, at least, not in the brackets they specified. I asked for them to be divided by the sets, 39 and lower, 40-44, 45-54. 55-64, 65+

Also, like I said, its ridiculous to earn 2 kills, then have somebody pounce u after your battle. I know, I know..... you have a protection buff, but if you've picked up a cart, you are screwed.
Then you lose -400 or -200 because of some spoiler who decided not to do BG until now. seriously, 17 kills, mvp and -262 honor. why did i have 17 kills? Because I lost 1000 honor in 3 fights and I wasn't about to lose that much!!!!! Now, I dont even bother with the 2 kills. Enter the BG, leave the BG, go do world boss. Unless the people in BG have agreed to leave carters alone and fight those that want to fight. I don't see any reason to try and get a higher level. Just go to Guild Battles and Arenas and slowly earn honor there. Get my next rank that way.

I didn't say you ask for this bracket. I said players ask for this bracket. But you know, like I said, you can't please everyone.
One bracket favors one player; another bracket favors another.

I must say this is better than 40-80 BG.

I understand it sucks to lose honor like that. I really do. I don't play BG much before the patch, and I don't play BG much after the patch. I get my honor mostly from GBs. I have little risk of losing honor just mainly because I don't play.

[R23221469]

I don't see how you can please everyone.

Before: Level 60+ beating on Level 40+ in BG. Level 40+ cry foul.
Now: Level 60+ getting beaten by Level 65+. Level 60+ cry foul.

Do you suggest diving BG into 1 single level bracket each?

I never suggested BG be divided in the first place, at least, not in the brackets they specified. I asked for them to be divided by the sets, 39 and lower, 40-44, 45-54. 55-64, 65+

Also, like I said, its ridiculous to earn 2 kills, then have somebody pounce u after your battle. I know, I know..... you have a protection buff, but if you've picked up a cart, you are screwed.
Then you lose -400 or -200 because of some spoiler who decided not to do BG until now. seriously, 17 kills, mvp and -262 honor. why did i have 17 kills? Because I lost 1000 honor in 3 fights and I wasn't about to lose that much!!!!! Now, I dont even bother with the 2 kills. Enter the BG, leave the BG, go do world boss. Unless the people in BG have agreed to leave carters alone and fight those that want to fight. I don't see any reason to try and get a higher level. Just go to Guild Battles and Arenas and slowly earn honor there. Get my next rank that way.

[akirayama0ka]

need put off dryads buff, it was ok when 40-80 bg, not when ~10lvl diff

or better make that buff after death not expire, just staying so weak ppl have chance to get honor too

but cashers can complain

[CondorHero]

I don't see how you can please everyone.

Before: Level 60+ beating on Level 40+ in BG. Level 40+ cry foul.
Now: Level 60+ getting beaten by Level 65+. Level 60+ cry foul.

Do you suggest diving BG into 1 single level bracket each?

[R23221469]

You can't have "got beaten for months on end" and higher rank than other players your level. You must have done a lot of beating to others, and now getting your payback.

hmmmm, lvl 45 and got my set at lvl 47. That was 4 months ago. I been playing this a long time on server s7. So don't tell me I wasn't beaten for months at a time. Only way i got my rank easy is Guild Battle that came out. did i do my share of honor farming? A little bit yep, let lowbies get their shards then attack. Earned my Elite Knight Crusader. So yeah, I beat on lowbies. Not like the Lord Divine in my server who has been farming for months, capping out every day at 3k. Before that, he was farming cata 2 times a day. I finally get up high in level for my turn, and it gets changed on me. Same with Talents. I was around level 60 when talents came out. Before I get a chance to farm anything, it changes before I have a chance to enjoy being on top. Now, I see ppl lvl 60 with mdef 12k, huge gems and rank crusader. Guess I will level up to 70 and be the small guy, lose 10 -30 honor to get dryads and farm 200 honor per kill. Going to be fun for them then. I just dont see the incentive to try and get higher. Get higher with more chance to lose honor. What for? It seems pointless.