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    Getting the most out of mount fusion! How to?

    We will briefly go over what gets the most out of mount fusion in as short as way possible and to be best understood, A video documentary will be posted here in time~apologies for any delay as this is investigated & documented for us!

    In Text form: Will want to feed your mounts as much as can before merge them to increase the amounts transferred- the conversion rate is fixed at 40% but we have controlling factors over the stats in other ways(Increase the base stats and the conversion will add more points adjusting to new ratio).

    Leveling with Purified Crystals should also make a difference. will ask for a comparison to be done so can show what ways get what

    Here are some of the Collectors edition mounts Fused for a preview: *first gen green stats are about half what is listed in gen 2 stage*

    Originally posted by ShadowGammaDraco View Post
    might not be fully correct but these are basic fused ones no additions through mount food or levels
    Meaning:
    • basic
    • Fuse: [Special Mount] +[Kilin] =[Kilin Gen 1]
    • Fuse: [Kilin] +[Kilin] =[Kilin Gen 1]
    • Fuse [Special Mount 1] + [Kilin Gen 1] = [Special Mount 2] or whichever mounts fusing



    takes about 6-9 stars to fuse the mounts generally up to kilin range
    4-6 if your really lucky on fusing or less, 6-8 seems about medium. 9+ if your unlucky but if your at 9 stars should be anytime to fuse
    if your a Limited Edition mount collector the Fusion System can come in handy if want to fuse kilins or something even more powerful to those to make them nice. or if you make one too many kilins and don't want to destroy them
    Reason why its best to plan ahead is because you can't change the green stats once they are fused! So if you want the green stats of your mounts to have the most possible make sure to feed and level the mount that's transferring stats a a lot!
    Last edited by ShadowGammaDraco; 05-22-2015, 03:17 PM.

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    Fused stats of secondary gen 1 mount don't transfer.

    For example if you fuse:

    -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
    -Fuse: Killin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
    -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

    You will get the same stats as if you fused:

    -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
    -Fuse: Killin + Turtle(weakest mount) = Kilin gen 1
    -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

    Can you ask if this is a bug or is supposed to be like this?

    Edit: Bug or not bug its important to include as note in your planning ahead guide because a lot of people waste time and resources getting both mounts they planning to use as secondary gen 1 mount to level 20 without knowing.
    Last edited by R2349858; 05-22-2015, 03:38 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ShadowGammaDraco

      Appreciate info! Was tempted to say that but wasn't sure on it, one of things wanted checked ;p/can have investigated possibly if normal

      any updates on this yet?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Juyu.Ichi View Post
        any updates on this yet?
        Possibly still is the old way, never know when they change stuff tho, since they don't announce [anything] nowadays.
        Last edited by Reverie; 06-03-2015, 01:10 AM. Reason: Replaced censor.

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        • #5
          Was about to ask if there's any update about this too.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by R2349858 View Post
            Fused stats of secondary gen 1 mount don't transfer.

            For example if you fuse:

            -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
            -Fuse: Killin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
            -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

            You will get the same stats as if you fused:

            -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
            -Fuse: Killin + Turtle(weakest mount) = Kilin gen 1
            -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

            Can you ask if this is a bug or is supposed to be like this?

            Edit: Bug or not bug its important to include as note in your planning ahead guide because a lot of people waste time and resources getting both mounts they planning to use as secondary gen 1 mount to level 20 without knowing.
            This is not true. I have tested several times with several different mounts. In reality it is more like this (Base Mount) Keeps all white Stats + (Secondary Mount) Transfers 40% of White Stats into Green Stats = Gen 1 mount. Do that twice to make a Gen 2. Your Gen two mount the Stats transfer equally. So, Green Stats of Gen 1 + Green Stats of 2nd Gen 1 = Green Stats of the Gen 2 Mount. I have yet to try this with Gen 3, but theory would stand that the same would hold true. The only time that the stats of ANY of the mounts matter really is if they are your secondary mount when creating your Gen 1. If you level that mount to 20, feed it, do whatever you can to get its White Stats higher, then your mount is going to overall be better in the long run, since 40% of the white stats from that secondary mount become the Green Stats on your Gen 1. Your Base Mount you can work on whenever you choose since feeding it, leveling it, etc will only effect the white Stats. The same holds true for any Further mount that you create to add into it, except there is not any need to work on the base mount at all of your secondary Gen 1. Since it is eventually going to get eaten by your Base Gen 1 and become your Gen 2 anyways. Just remember, Feed the Secondary mount. And that the Transfer rate is as follows:
            Gen 1 = 40% of White Stats become Green Stats on your Base Mount
            Gen 2 = Green Stats of two Gen 1 mounts added together.
            Gen 3 = Green Stats of two Gen 2 mounts added together. (hypothetically but I will be testing soon)

            If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BlazingAngel View Post
              And that the Transfer rate is as follows:
              Gen 1 = 40% of White Stats become Green Stats on your Base Mount
              Gen 2 = Green Stats of two Gen 1 mounts added together.
              Gen 3 = Green Stats of two Gen 2 mounts added together. (hypothetically but I will be testing soon)
              Welp, that helps clear things up a lot, so hopefully the hypothesis can be proven right so I know whether to bother with this one day when I'm not so noobish ;-;
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlazingAngel View Post
                This is not true. I have tested several times with several different mounts. In reality it is more like this (Base Mount) Keeps all white Stats + (Secondary Mount) Transfers 40% of White Stats into Green Stats = Gen 1 mount. Do that twice to make a Gen 2. Your Gen two mount the Stats transfer equally. So, Green Stats of Gen 1 + Green Stats of 2nd Gen 1 = Green Stats of the Gen 2 Mount. I have yet to try this with Gen 3, but theory would stand that the same would hold true. The only time that the stats of ANY of the mounts matter really is if they are your secondary mount when creating your Gen 1. If you level that mount to 20, feed it, do whatever you can to get its White Stats higher, then your mount is going to overall be better in the long run, since 40% of the white stats from that secondary mount become the Green Stats on your Gen 1. Your Base Mount you can work on whenever you choose since feeding it, leveling it, etc will only effect the white Stats. The same holds true for any Further mount that you create to add into it, except there is not any need to work on the base mount at all of your secondary Gen 1. Since it is eventually going to get eaten by your Base Gen 1 and become your Gen 2 anyways. Just remember, Feed the Secondary mount. And that the Transfer rate is as follows:
                Gen 1 = 40% of White Stats become Green Stats on your Base Mount
                Gen 2 = Green Stats of two Gen 1 mounts added together.
                Gen 3 = Green Stats of two Gen 2 mounts added together. (hypothetically but I will be testing soon)

                So with your logic only the green stats transfer?

                So I could fuse:

                -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                -Fuse: Killin lvl 20 + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin lvl 20 gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

                And get the same stats as if I fused:

                -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                -Fuse: Turtle(weakest mount) + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Turtle(weakest mount) gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin


                Or I'm missing something?

                Edit: Just so we are clear, if that's what you are saying than that's not true, because from my experience and experience from people I know on my server, it's the green stats on secondary mount that don't transfer.

                http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....ed-above-gen-2

                http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....t=Mount+fusing

                http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....t=Mount+fusing

                Also when my wife fused her mounts she used Lizard lvl 20 + Taotie lvl 20 for her secondary gen 1 mount and friend of mine used Kyubi lvl 20 + turtle lvl 1 and got better stats than her in the end, so how would you explain that if it's only the green stats that transfer?
                Last edited by R2349858; 06-03-2015, 12:58 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by R2349858 View Post
                  So with your logic only the green stats transfer?

                  So I could fuse:

                  -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                  -Fuse: Killin lvl 20 + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                  -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin lvl 20 gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

                  And get the same stats as if I fused:

                  -Fuse: Kilin + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                  -Fuse: Turtle(weakest mount) + Kilin lvl 20 = Kilin gen 1
                  -Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Turtle(weakest mount) gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin


                  Or I'm missing something?

                  Edit: Just so we are clear, if that's what you are saying than that's not true, because from my experience and experience from people I know on my server, it's the green stats on secondary mount that don't transfer.

                  http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....ed-above-gen-2
                  This is true, When fusing mounts together
                  Kilin Gen 1 + Kilin Gen 1 = 40% of the white stats are transferred to the Primary mount from the secondary pet and THAT is the green stats you see.

                  When we're talking about a 2nd Fusion, you can do as followed:
                  Kilin Gen 1 + Kilin Gen 1 = Kilin Gen 2
                  Kilin Gen 1 + Trutle Gen 1 = Kilin Gen 2 (The 40% of the turtles white stats are placed into the Primary mount AS GREEN STATS)

                  When merged to Gen 3:
                  Kilin Gen 2 + Kilin Gen 2 (40% of the Kilins WHITE stats are transferred to Primary mounts and seen as GREEN stats) = Gen 3 Kilin

                  and so on so forth, The green stats are NOT transferred or cumilated with the white stats, it's ONLY the white stats of the secondary pet.

                  (LOL I know i made a mistake when i was explaining:
                  Gen 1 = Gen 0
                  Gen 2 = Gen 1
                  Gen 3 = Gen 2 in-game) But you catch what i meant >.>
                  Last edited by LadyJo; 06-03-2015, 01:08 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LadyJo View Post
                    This is true, When fusing mounts together
                    Kilin Gen 1 + Kilin Gen 1 = 40% of the white stats are transferred to the Primary mount from the secondary pet and THAT is the green stats you see.

                    When we're talking about a 2nd Fusion, you can do as followed:
                    Kilin Gen 1 + Kilin Gen 1 = Kilin Gen 2
                    Kilin Gen 1 + Trutle Gen 1 = Kilin Gen 2 (The 40% of the turtles white stats are placed into the Primary mount AS GREEN STATS)

                    When merged to Gen 3:
                    Kilin Gen 2 + Kilin Gen 2 (40% of the Kilins WHITE stats are transferred to Primary mounts and seen as GREEN stats) = Gen 3 Kilin

                    and so on so forth, The green stats are NOT transferred or cumilated with the white stats, it's ONLY the white stats of the secondary pet.

                    (LOL I know i made a mistake when i was explaining:
                    Gen 1 = Gen 0
                    Gen 2 = Gen 1
                    Gen 3 = Gen 2 in-game) But you catch what i meant >.>
                    That's exactly what I'm talking about but apparently we are wrong :P

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                    • #11
                      I actually did this several times, and i even did it with a turtle. I am not currently at home, when I am able to do so, I will make sure that I grab the screenshots of everything for you guys, and show you what both Gen 2 mounts look like. I didnt use Kilins to make mine, I used Kyubis to make them. But the same basic idea applies regardless of the mounts that you are using. So, when I am able to do so, I will upload my screenshots, show you my math, and whatnot. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it. I am not afraid of being wrong, and I actually appreciate learning new things. So I welcome it actually. What I state in my post is from my own experiences, which I am MORE than happy to share with everyone. If you can point out my mistakes then that would be great.

                      See you guys then

                      If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?

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                      • #12
                        The layout still applys to any mount, Whether it's Kilin or Kyubi or even a new mount r2 makes. You've done it a longer way, because you thought white and green stats are accumilated to create that specific mount and you're probably scared of not getting the max bonus... It's true xD People do that!
                        We're giving another option, instead of thinking both green and white stats combine, we've only seen the white stats get transferred, if it really was combined (White + Green) we'd see a bigger % increase don't you think?

                        You can screen shot your Kyubi 2nd Gen and My screen shot is here (Using the method shown): Click image for larger version

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                        If you bring out a mount with Godly stats (Excluding pet food) then I'll admit i'm one dumb tool lol
                        and We understand you're fine with being proved wrong, We're here to help, your method isn't bad at all, it works!
                        But, you really wanna spend 1k+ more g muts?
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                        Level: 180 eido
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                        Wisdom is translating that knowledge to application."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LadyJo View Post
                          your method isn't bad at all, it works!
                          I don't understand, are you talking about her method of fusing mounts? Because that's really not important, the important is to confirm if the green stats from secondary mount transfer or not. From what I have seen/experienced so far they don't. And from what she says it's only the green stats that transfer.

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                          • #14
                            I wasn't talking about that, her logic was wrong and thats evident. I'm saying, using loads of kyubis to make the next gen still works but isn't the brightest idea
                            Server: (S73)Green Plains
                            IGN: (S73)Aura
                            Level: 180 eido
                            Class: Rogue
                            Guild: 憎悪 (Hatred)


                            "You can read, but knowledge is only information.
                            Wisdom is translating that knowledge to application."

                            K - Rino

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LadyJo View Post
                              I wasn't talking about that, her logic was wrong and thats evident. I'm saying, using loads of kyubis to make the next gen still works but isn't the brightest idea
                              I think mods have access to test server from time to time.

                              Just an assumption because she said "I actually did this several times, and i even did it with a turtle." I'll just wait for her screenshots.
                              Last edited by R2349858; 06-04-2015, 03:38 PM.

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