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    well i been doing some testing with a guild mate and crit defense dose not even work. he has 3 immaculate crit defense gems had him take all out hit him took down the numbers. then had him put them in gain +136 crit def and the dmg was the same. what the point of having crit defense if it dose not even work.
    my name Wolfy and i drunk alot lol

  • #2
    crit def doesn't reduce the damge from crit damage, but it lower chances of you doing crit atk(strike)
    Last edited by Arceur; 05-09-2013, 05:07 AM.

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    • #3
      Then what does this mean:
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arceur View Post
        crit def doesn't reduce the damge from crit damage, but it lower chances of you doing crit atk
        It does reduce critical damage, but not enough to be dramatically noticeable apparently. It's hard to determine exactly how much damage crit defence can block because of AP, lucky strikes, etc.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by speeds16 View Post
          Then what does this mean:
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          if you read the word carefully, it says, critical strikes not critical damge, if what you mean is crit damge, where you gonna find all the 100000+ crit def while you can just socket 10 pcs of immc critn?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arceur View Post
            if you read the word carefully, it says, critical strikes not critical damge, if what you mean is crit damge, where you gonna find all the 100000+ crit def while you can just socket 10 pcs of immc critn?
            I'm not sure if you just refuse to read properly or got your hands covering part of that picture. It clearly states that it reduces the damage you receive, nowhere close does it say that it reduces the chance of critical strike being done on you.
            I mean indeed crit damage is being reduced but the amount of crit defense we gain from the gems seems neglectable to today's stats. It might've been useful when Mortal Lv60 was still the levelcap but not now.
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            Proud owner of the Lv 120 [Eidolon] Holy priest alt, double-parked outside
            Officially the #1 Nature Ranger of Windshear Peaks & six merged servers

            Wartune (semi-inactive):
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            • #7
              well it doesn't matter, i've play the chinese cs before, and it work just like the same, BUT i don't know if they translate it very specific, but what i do know is, crit damge calculated damge get from you char base dmge not crit strike, say if you char has 1200 crit strike + crit damge 200% , that's a very low crit dmage you got there,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Arceur View Post
                well it doesn't matter, i've play the chinese cs before, and it work just like the same, BUT i don't know if they translate it very specific, but what i do know is, crit damge calculated damge get from you char base dmge not crit strike, say if you char has 1200 crit strike + crit damge 200% , that's a very low crit dmage you got there,
                I don't think you understand what we're talking about. Crit damage is calculated from patk/matk*critical damage% and crit % is how often a crit will happen. Two completely different things. Crit defence claims to reduce crit damage. If a rogue with 100% crit chance hits someone with 1 million crit defence, every attack will crit.

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                • #9
                  but the person should do NO damage, unless the crit damage would be higher than 1 million damage.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                    I don't think you understand what we're talking about. Crit damage is calculated from patk/matk*critical damage% and crit % is how often a crit will happen. Two completely different things. Crit defence claims to reduce crit damage. If a rogue with 100% crit chance hits someone with 1 million crit defence, every attack will crit.
                    i'd like to disagree with that . i fight vs. a rogue with 104% crit , and he doesn't crit all the time

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                    • #11
                      i believe crit def works,i heard from someone 10 crit def reduces 4% crit dmg,now i dunno how true that is or where those numbers came from,me personally i'm filling my chest full of imma's and necky atm,switched my ambers over in zod charm so i lost basically nothing cuz to me,i'm in end game mindset where crit dmg/crit def/ap/ap def matters most,i'd say some extensive tests would have to be done,like was said alot of things factor in like ap/lucky/crits and crit dmg%,also the reason i'm in my mindset,my defs over 110k atm so i'm chacing different defs

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                      • #12
                        There is a crit reduction factor
                        I have posted many times on the issue with numbers I got with the help of guildies
                        We determined that the max crit dmg reduction is 100% additively based on the fact that a guildie's crit dmg compared to a non crit attack was 100% less than what it should of been. Don't have exact numbers atm but her attack translated to 230% instead of 330% crit damage.
                        The target has well over 1k crit def.

                        As per the 10crit def = 4% reduction, this is an observation from blood priest tenacity skill.
                        Adding 1 level raises your crit def by 10 pts which the skill claims is 4% reduction
                        We didn't bother proving if it was true or not tho
                        Sith's Priest Guide

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