Knights vs. rogues...

[JapanLouquinho]

If knight tank full soul, full exelom set, hellwing go vs. Rogue shadow full soul, full exelom set and hellwing, who gain the battle?

[bichunmoo]

Shadow shall prevail

[Berubooooo]

knight should prevail

[shinigami_kun]

The rogue will win if it gets to stun the knight will win if the rogue doesnt, also it depends on skill usage.

[JapanLouquinho]

If knight have 75% absorv.?

[Frogfucius]

judging from caps(there is no dodge cap, crit cap, hit cap) ....unless the knight went agility (assuming rogue when agility not str) to combat the rogue's dodge (rogue would have over 100% crit rate, over 100% dodge, over 100% hit)...i'd say that even with knights 75% damage reduct it might be impossible for a knight to actually hit the rogue. rogue has ignore defense skill (not reduct) so the rogue could always deal damage while the knight relies on extreme luck.

i say this because i am a knight and eidolon skill is small damage over time or invince for a few seconds which does nothing but add a time % to damage possibility for surviving longer. assuming full soul would make both sides equal when it comes to soul boosts aside from whatever we set as our initial stats focus. knights would be end or str where rogue would negate nearly all that being full agility. only because there are no caps on dodge and crit, rogue would ignore defenses 100% and hit that as a critical....which if soul was maxed that would hit hard even with a 75% damage reduct. don't forget its damage that is reduced, not the incoming patk stat working into some damage formula...unlike knight's eidolon retri skill which works directly off patk making it weaker in effect. its useful dragging skill but other than that it wouldn't end an uber rogue with maxed everything and uber dodge, crit rate

[JapanLouquinho]

humm, you have problem vs raangers?

[allcode17]

KNIGHT WILL WIN, once it drag's you in, it will stun,slow you etc.. etc.. effect. for short you will become 100% punching bag.
even the rogue stab/stun you at the back like chicken, defenitely knight will win through its unfair highest defense in all toons.

[speeds16]

Seen a fight between eidolon lv80+ knight with 42% reduction and a gen5 DK (32k patk) going against a shadow rogue, both full slayer sets. You can't drag+stun shadowrogues; rogue stunned knight and finished him before the stun even ended.

In any 1v1, rogues can win as long as they get their cloak+stun off.

[XrosSlash]

Seen a fight between eidolon lv80+ knight with 42% reduction and a gen5 DK (32k patk) going against a shadow rogue, both full slayer sets. You can't drag+stun shadowrogues; rogue stunned knight and finished him before the stun even ended.

In any 1v1, rogues can win as long as they get their cloak+stun off.

if i hit rogue first, ill definitely win. if rogue cloaked n stun me first, either im dead, or free from the stun(debuff from soul) n kill him instead. ^^

[Berubooooo]

here the main issue if the rogue player distribute the point right he can surely dodge almost all the attack incoming from the knight but if he don't say goodbye to the rogues and there aren't many rogues nowadays that put all there point on agility it usually 2 str 1agility

[noobero]

I Think rogue will will win(If it's full agi with full crit dodge and AP gear) The rogue would probs have abt 120% dodge in full dodge gear and full soul,then he can activate vagabons swiftness for 150% dodge,The knight wouldn't even be able to hit the rogue

[Berubooooo]

rougue can actually beat any class if you take your time and build it right but it gonna take a long time before a rogues display it true strength

[Godz_Right_Hand]

im a rogue and i owned a knight with double my stats and also has a dk gen5 32k patk his dk has more then me n mypet put togeather, its all bout how u control ur charcter im pure agi, sorry to say knights wasted there tym u cant compare to the dodge of a rogue if u keep missing how r u going to damage a rogue ? u cant? n if a rogue stuns its all over b4 the fight started, look no class is better then any other class all class's have weakness's n adavantages its all how u use ur charcter n build it which counts the most u cant really say rogues r better then knight n u cant say knights r better then rogues, its all bout how u prefer to kill someone u like to b sneaky n stealth like an assassin pick a rogue , u like to b a brawler pik a knight .

server=(s24)tundara
name=Karmahunter
level=100 eidolon
class=Rogue for the win (shadow based)

[Berubooooo]

pure agility with good soul work rogues is scary indeed