Avernal Realm needs to change

[BrotherVT]

Like I said before in my previous posts, once Shadow and I feel like this thread is going in the direction we need it to go, then you get our support in which we will try our best to disable.
I don't know how simpler this needs to get.

[iyasn]

Like I said before in my previous posts, once Shadow and I feel like this thread is going in the direction we need it to go, then you get our support in which we will try our best to disable.
I don't know how simpler this needs to get.

I don't know how much support this needs but a way we can get more people to share their opinion is to put it on the next maintenance patch notes.

[CloudySage]

A lot of people have already shown their support,its clear that most people DO want it to change,this thread is going pretty good i think,and i think it's time for taking action.What more can you want,the whole CS to support this? People who care about avernal support this,a lot of people just stopped doing it because of the perfect frag issue.

And i agree with Pwayne,the reason most people don't come to post here is because they think it's POINTLESS.How many threads that people posted have R2 ignored? I've seen these threads going on for months but all were hopeless,i made some,nobody replied,because everyone is sure that R2 doesn't do anything players ask,so if you want attention,just make something like an OFFICIAL poll with the next maint,and if most people will say that avernal does need to change,then change it.By an OFFICIAL poll i mean a poll from R2Games or from mods,that is the only way people will actually SEE it because as far as i'm sure a lot of people don't actually KNOW about the existence of this thread,i only found out 2 days ago...so make it official and let's see how many people voice their opinion.

[BrotherVT]

You're receiving support from an Ex-Mod and a current Mod being ShadowGammaDraco.
That's more than enough but like I said, I want to see just exactly how many people are going to post if they want it changed.
If they think it's pointless, then they're the reason as to why this thread won't proceed further.
I made an official poll in attempt to try to change The Crypts but people ended up voting it to be the same.

[bla2400]

I honestly do fell that advernal needs some serious improving. Ever since the perfect frag came I have not done it since rogues win it all the time. To me being in advernal is like being in a casino your chances are winning are impossible or to slim to even wast your time trying.

So I approve of this and hope for a chance so that all people in advernal can enjoy it with some good competition not a waste of time as it is now!

[CloudySage]

You're receiving support from an Ex-Mod and a current Mod being ShadowGammaDraco.
That's more than enough but like I said, I want to see just exactly how many people are going to post if they want it changed.
If they think it's pointless, then they're the reason as to why this thread won't proceed further.
I made an official poll in attempt to try to change The Crypts but people ended up voting it to be the same.

Okay,but that doesn't mean you can't make an official poll on this too? Just make an official one and you'll see that most people want it changed,most people like i said in my previous post DON'T KNOW about this thread/poll.If its gonna be official,then everyone will know about it,and vote,and voice their opinion.


The crypt - Most people are fine with the time on my server,since that's our most active time because by server-time,its evening.But Avernal is different,most people do want it to change.

[Botolminum]

I will try my best to bring more people, but I have a weird thought about r2games, it's simple, the reason they don't feel like changing it because maybe it's quite hard to fix and they don't think avernal is such a big event, it's already good there's avernal, do you prefer An Avernal realm or nothing at all ? seems to me that's the situation currently.

The only solution would be to make this thread and thread about suggestion of island of blessing or any other 'important thread' visible in every forum people visit excluding the news and event i guess..

[Devilord]

Well, enough chit chat, time for some pics, this is pics taken from around 3 months ago.

My char : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e125gk&s=6

vs rogue : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=sblker&s=6

(need to click pics and then view raw file or pics or whatever)


and also

http://img286.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_367lo.jpg

http://img289.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_514lo.jpg


Currently I got 217 k matk with 290 % atk speed when using light seal broken lvl 5 , of course all of this are normal attacks with meteor strike and valley of death on afk shortcut , no other skills, no stupid delay casting skills. Still lose to a 45-46 k patk rogues that have around 220-230 % atk speed (440-460 % because of double attack) , not a single hope against 70-80 k+ patk rogues, and the Top rogue (s51)Tails have 200 k+ patk.

need more support ?

[CloudySage]

Well, enough chit chat, time for some pics, this is pics taken from around 3 months ago.

My char : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e125gk&s=6

vs rogue : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=sblker&s=6

(need to click pics and then view raw file or pics or whatever)


and also

http://img286.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_367lo.jpg

http://img289.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_514lo.jpg


Currently I got 217 k matk with 290 % atk speed when using light seal broken lvl 5 , of course all of this are normal attacks with meteor strike and valley of death on afk shortcut , no other skills, no stupid delay casting skills. Still lose to a 45-46 k patk rogues that have around 220-230 % atk speed (440-460 % because of double attack) , not a single hope against 70-80 k+ patk rogues, and the Top rogue (s51)Tails have 200 k+ patk.

need more support ?

Perfect example of rogues overwhelming in avernal.I would post my picture of lvl 80 avr being ruled by our top rogues,but i'm currently in low level avernal .Perfect example of how unfair avernal is for other classes right now.Without the blood cry activating devilord would've beaten the rogues no contest,but just because he ISNT a rogue he lost...Now imagine perf frag wouldn't proc...by how many times would the mage's damage exceed the rogue's? 5x? 20x? See why it's unfair? D:

[littledidie]

I AGREE TO DISABLING PERFECT FRAG PASSIVES!!!
I also think its not fair for people who has much lower attack and attack speed than me deals more damage and thus winning over me only because of luck. Its frustrating when those people boast about it too --

[MsBlackRabbit]

I support this idea of disabling perfect frag passives in avernal as it seems like the money and time I have invested in this game is useless since weaker toons have chance to deal more damage than I do just because their passive procs more than mine. Ever since perfect frags were implemented, avernal has been a joke to a lot of high level players. Like come on... how could a scion rogue beats an eido one with orange gears and obviously better stats?

[TheRaspberry]

I will try my best to bring more people, but I have a weird thought about r2games, it's simple, the reason they don't feel like changing it because maybe it's quite hard to fix [...]..

It can't be that hard to fix because they've already deactivated the passive skills for the guild boss.

[Baixiu]

I would love to see this event dominate by stronger players.

[Botolminum]

It can't be that hard to fix because they've already deactivated the passive skills for the guild boss.

Really ? They disable this skills for guild boss ? I've summoned the boss about 3 times now, but didn't really pay attention, because really I don't care much about this game anymore..

Just more proof for r2games weird mind, they wouldn't change in avernal, but for other things, they can change it easily if they want.

What really bothers me and pretty much everyone else is there's no exact answer and they just keep saying they are investigating it, they will direct it to proper department, etc and so on. A simple, " NO we won't change it because it's supposed to be a gamble in avernal " would be better actually, eventhough it's not really much of a gamble when rogues are the one keep winning.

Another thing that I remember , They recently changed the "revive on spot" , the one that use 20 xtal to have a 1 minute cooldown, this problem has been addressed since last year or more (because back then there were some crazy rich people who would just revive on spot non stop), same like the RDC/BDC content, so I guess this avernal will be fixed eventually, but probably next year.... *sigh*

[PrinceKuja]

if u hate losing so much just make a rogue alt and fix em up with some nice gear gems wings and frag, send him in with bol and you can own the baby kids realm easily. many people have done it, and its a lot easier than crying on forum and sending tickets to get a generic response.