Avernal Realm needs to change

[iyasn]

nah i dont agree with that. i think realm is fine the way it is. if u wanna see how much u can do without the passives make another superior frag and go for it, or use a slayers weapon.

Am guessing you are one of many that rely on the Fragarach skill in Avernal.

that's also what MemoryLane meant by

There's really not a lot of support for this suggestion

Can I ask if your thread (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥More island of Blessings times please♥(ˆ⌣ˆԅ) http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....247#post576247 had a lot of support for your suggestion? 20 votes for time change that doesn't seem much to me, so what I am seeing is R2 are just to lazy to fix this.

Lets just look at Avernal:

In the Avernal Realm, damage dealt is everything. The more damage you deal to the monsters, the more rewards you will receive.

How to Play: In the Avernal Realm, damage dealt is everything. Players will be ranked according to the total amount of damage they deal to enemies. The more damage you deal, the more points you will receive.

Isnt it all about the damage you deal? well it says that but look how its changed now, or maybe if you're going to keep it like this update the Avernal Realm Guide saying 'It's now all about your Fragarach passive skills the more you hit the better chance you have of taking a bulk of the bosses HP and that damage counts depending of the amount, also the boss will die within a minute with everyone ganking it so be careful!'

[sithewarrior]

The idea of disabling perfect frag passive damage skills has been long suggested since the releasse of perfect frag and yet R2 has neglected to do so despite constant ravings of the community. Rogues with their double attack normal hits with regular proc rates for frag skills (except frost) and sperion combo give them an edge in any dps/hps based event almost regardlessly of their level. The only people against the idea are almost guaranteed to be people who rely on the frag procs to get on the rankings. It's ridiculous as it is when a new rogue plays cs, makes a perfect I, with only 10k p.atk at best, can dish out more damage than most of the non rogues of the server who have played invested more time/money/effort. The support is present, R2 is just ignoriing it. Similarly, look at seng: despite constant requests to somehow prolong seng, R2 has failed to do anything at all. Not even acknowledge the issue or say they're working on something to balance the issues. What is it going to take for R2 to make any changes to the imbalances of the game?

[BrotherVT]

The past suggestions of disabling the Frag passives might have not received much support - nor did it have mine and Shadow's support in the cause like you will have now. sithe, instead of always bashing R2, you need to forget everything from the past and obtain a new out look of how R2 runs. With the support of an Ex-Mod and a current Mod, we will be trying to remove the passives from Avernal - but what we need the community to do is to VOICE THEIR OPINION and not just vote. Voting doesn't say much if the people who vote refuse to comment their opinions on this issue.
Kuja is a great example of how the game is being ruined. Avernal was supposed to prove who has the better equipment, skill build, soul development, pet, etc. Now it's about who can out DPS everyone else, regardless of level. How does that prove anything? It doesn't prove ****.

Voice your thoughts - it's a great tool. Cooperating with one another without the bashing of anyone or of R2. Showing your care for the game is what will make things change.

Look, we had a chance to change the time for The Crypt. People wanted two times a day but it wasn't going to happen. That's why I wanted people to vote on a different time slot of which I created based off the current event times. It ended up being the same time because most people voted for it. It makes a difference - you need to speak up.

Edit: The best influence to change things are the "big names" that are still around the game. Get them to talk.

[iyasn2]

Edit: The best influence to change things are the "big names" that are still around the game. Get them to talk.

No idea why they dont talk maybe they dont visit forums much or dont even go in Avernal.

[BrotherVT]

Come on now, people. It's been 2 days and no extra support regarding this? It sounds like most of the people wishes for it not to change after all.

[PrinceKuja]

it doesnt need to be changed at all lol just learn how to beat rogues if ur so upset about them. ive beaten rogue with a priest in realm easily. u just gotta employ some tactics. im telling you if they change it there will be more people upset about it than the small number of people upset about the current situation.

[JPwayne82444]

It does need to change. The current system makes it so your damage doesn't matter in an event that is meant to be about how much damage you deal. Instead it is all about who gets lucky with frag passives, and once you have a max frag weapon there isn't a lot you can do to get better anymore. You can increase your attack speed, and you can adjust your skill build to have more multi-hit attacks, and that is about it. When you then consider that rogues tend to have high attack speed and have several multi-hit attacks (as well as 2 attacks on their normal attack), it makes it so if a rogue with a perfect frag ever goes in you are all but guaranteed to lose to them. The fact that a weak rouge that can barely scratch some of the stronger characters in a server can beat them easily in this event is absurd, but that is how it always seems to work out.

Also for about why no one is posting to show support, it isn't because the support doesn't exist, it is more because no one actually thinks anything will change, even if we managed to get every member of R2 to post their agreement here. After all none of the previous topics about it had any effect, and I know some of those had a lot of people supporting them.

[TheRaspberry]

ShadowGammaDraco: The reason why I said file a ticket is that it is clearly a bug to me. Why? Because they've already deactivated the following HP draining skills in AR: Blood Breaking Skill from Sperion, the Fire Waves of Mages and the Infernal Destruction spell of Fire Lords. It just makes no sense to keep the passive skills counting while deactivating the others. I try to tell them since Sun, Mar 10 2013 11:49pm that it needs to be fixed including screenshots. I can understand if old players don't want to post anymore.

And who are those "big names"? Big cashers?

[Botolminum]

Come on now, people. It's been 2 days and no extra support regarding this? It sounds like most of the people wishes for it not to change after all.

What do you mean by extra support ? You do realize the high levels / cashers are quitting ? Basically, either the old veterans have given up trying to make this game better or they just don't post in forum or file tickets.

And some other servers that I saw, their top characters are rogues (talking about 100-200 k patk rogues), so why in the hell would a rogue post in here to fix the problem since it's giving them so much advantage ?

Kuja : you really need to stop trolling, got proof of priest beating rogues in avernal ? maybe if the priest has maxed atk speed gear and the rogue is a noob. Try equal stats. If you don't have proof, please by all means shut up.

Same with Raspberry, I've filed ticket since March or April, basically after the release of perfect frag, I just open ticket, and their answer is to be patience, being investigated, etc and so on. At that time, 3-4 of my friends opened ticket too complaining about this problem, I'm pretty sure there are more complain from other server, I just don't see how it doesn't have support....

I have even suggested to just half the chance for rogues passive to proc, but still nothing was done. That should be super easy right ? because the frost proc was halved for rogues, why not these new perfect passives ?

[PrinceKuja]

Kuja : you really need to stop trolling, got proof of priest beating rogues in avernal ? maybe if the priest has maxed atk speed gear and the rogue is a noob. Try equal stats. If you don't have proof, please by all means shut up.

show a little respect when talking to people here you lowlife. i dont need to prove anything to anybody and the fact that you would demand proof proves your stupidity. go play another game if it hurts ur butt so much that it makes you cry and have a temper tantrum like a 3 year old. ya loser...

like i said all u need to do is employ tactics... but ur clearly too stupid to figure out what to do in realm to beat a melee player. u need to shut up as you dont have a clue what ur talking about, noob.

[BrotherVT]

Even if the higher levels quit, it doesn't change the fact that this thread should have more voices to it - voices of which do not include flaming posts against each other. Once Shadow and I see just how much support this thread can and should be receiving, we will act upon it.

[iyasn]

show a little respect when talking to people here you lowlife. i dont need to prove anything to anybody and the fact that you would demand proof proves your stupidity. go play another game if it hurts ur butt so much that it makes you cry and have a temper tantrum like a 3 year old. ya loser...

like i said all u need to do is employ tactics... but ur clearly too stupid to figure out what to do in realm to beat a melee player. u need to shut up as you dont have a clue what ur talking about, noob.

I think everyone knows in this game a priest cant beat a rogue in Avernal unless the rogue has no tactics or a perfect fragarach.

And we need more support on this thread, IF YOUR VIEWING THIS THREAD DON'T JUST VOTE LEAVE A REPLY TELLING US WHAT YOU THINK.

[jason2357826]

I agree this needs to change

[BrotherVT]

I agree this needs to change

Okay, you agree that it needs to change. However, what is your reasoning for it?

[iyasn]

Okay, you agree that it needs to change. However, what is your reasoning for it?

LOL come on VT he agrees!