Avernal Realm needs to change

[Botolminum]

Roflol, that's just their standard bot response.... at least one of them, I've got that kind of messages before, useless.

[PrinceKuja]

That is one reason i want this **** to change,its not only a gamble between rogues and between how many people at your bane,it also depends on how fast your computer is.If your laggy,from my experience by the time you hit bane is already at 50%,so people with the good computers win,that's also unfair.And yes it's a gamble between spots.Whoever's on the spot where least praetorians spawn has a bigger chance to win,that makes it even MORE of a lottery

yea im rogue too and my computer lags like hell in realm, with only 2 banes and so many players im getting beat by everybody, cant even make top ten anymore lol. and if one person uses a knockback or drag skill my chances of getting a good hit on that bane are 0.

[KidSess]

Honestly, there are ways i agree and disagree upon this.

1.Remove the passive and strong players will only go further.

2. Don't remove it, anyone has a chance of getting top 10, not only rogues since it's the most hateful class now it seems.

[CloudySage]

yea im rogue too and my computer lags like hell in realm, with only 2 banes and so many players im getting beat by everybody, cant even make top ten anymore lol. and if one person uses a knockback or drag skill my chances of getting a good hit on that bane are 0.

Well why did you vote against the change then,if there was no perfect frag skill in avernal the lag wouldn't matter as much,if it would matter at all >.>I still hope if they ever ban the skill in avr,they'll also make the boss unmovable

[ericvas]

I hope r2 will change this fast cause avernal is a joke now. All we need just aspd, luck, & crit. rogue hv the advantage here cause only with perfect III they can defeat most ppl that have far bigger attack, better stat, and better weapon than them. And please make the boss unmovable! with the way it is now they like playing pingpong in avernal and push the boss to portal. Melee attacker cant do much and they oftenly get teleported to portal!!

[CloudySage]

I hope r2 will change this fast cause avernal is a joke now. All we need just aspd, luck, & crit. rogue hv the advantage here cause only with perfect III they can defeat most ppl that have far bigger attack, better stat, and better weapon than them. And please make the boss unmovable! with the way it is now they like playing pingpong in avernal and push the boss to portal. Melee attacker cant do much and they oftenly get teleported to portal!!

you dont need crit,just attack speed,a good computer that doesnt lag in avr,and luck.Lots and lots and lots of luck

[TheRaspberry]

And another week... such a disappointment.

[CloudySage]

Yep...put so much hope into this thread,and R2 did nothing...well,suits them.As long as the game is playable,they don't care about making it more enjoyable =/

[dovoImport]

Well why did you vote against the change then,if there was no perfect frag skill in avernal the lag wouldn't matter as much,if it would matter at all >.>I still hope if they ever ban the skill in avr,they'll also make the boss unmovable

voted against it because id never been in 80+ realm lol i stayed low level and owned it. but 80+ realm is absolutely insanely laggy and jam packed with players, its not a competition at all, like u said. now i jsut go in and do a few k dmg then wait by the npc til its over. and yeah i join for the last 5 mins. wait.... thats pointless, why bother even going? just another wasted 30 mins of the day. another wasted time slot.

[Aionyx]

you dont need crit,just attack speed,a good computer that doesnt lag in avr,and luck.Lots and lots and lots of luck

hmm i think crit/ crit dmg and speed play a role not only rogue or ranger has access to that but the knight ^^ :P ofc if u build right and if ur smart u'd build a knight that way :P

[alex2707]

Well dunno how long this thread been up but it really needs to be checked and responded by a dev.

First of all, the event is ment to measure how strong a char is, not how lucky. 3 of the strongest-highest cashers of my server quit about 1month after the frag was introduced, not to blame it solely on it but when a lvl 80,most likely rogue,beats a lvl 120with over 1800soul, ulti demon wings,kilin or pheonix and full orange set with immas in avernal then something is wrong.
Secondly the first time I've seen someone break the 1billion damage in avernal was by a mage about xmas time and the 2nd,3rd place were rogues with just over 600k. Now the same mage doesn't even bother with avernal since he can't even rank on top 10, though he has max fused frag and extreme devines wings gen1 kllin and over 420crit damage.

Lastly in low lvl avernal there are some mortal alt that been there for months beating eidolons and scions just because their main can afford to have 3-4alts with perfect frag.( not to blame them, myself i do have 4chars too but they mostly used for dungeons and ladder)

[CloudySage]

Well dunno how long this thread been up but it really needs to be checked and responded by a dev.

First of all, the event is ment to measure how strong a char is, not how lucky. 3 of the strongest-highest cashers of my server quit about 1month after the frag was introduced, not to blame it solely on it but when a lvl 80,most likely rogue,beats a lvl 120with over 1800soul, ulti demon wings,kilin or pheonix and full orange set with immas in avernal then something is wrong.
Secondly the first time I've seen someone break the 1billion damage in avernal was by a mage about xmas time and the 2nd,3rd place were rogues with just over 600k. Now the same mage doesn't even bother with avernal since he can't even rank on top 10, though he has max fused frag and extreme devines wings gen1 kllin and over 420crit damage.

Lastly in low lvl avernal there are some mortal alt that been there for months beating eidolons and scions just because their main can afford to have 3-4alts with perfect frag.( not to blame them, myself i do have 4chars too but they mostly used for dungeons and ladder)

Thank you for the support ;D About it being checked by a dev : You're dreaming,they don't give a rat's you-know-what about these kinds of problems in the game,it doesn't affect the game in any way,its just UNFAIR,when was the last time the devs cared about something being UNFAIR?And same here theres a level 50 or 58 mortal alt that dominates lowbie avernal just because he got perfect frag and there are only knights and mages with perf frag beside him,once again,they won't care about that either =/ I didn't give up my hopes on this being fixed yet,but judging by the lack of mod responses,it seems that it won't be

[MomoJay]

I started going to Avern again because I now have a perfect frag. I still don't like the frag weapon btw. The passive skills are so random a noob rogue can beat a mega casher Mage. Now we all know rogues do a lot of dps but there's no way a level 90 rogue with +7 slayer should be a level 150 mage with orange evil beast gear. There are rarely 10 people in when I go in. This broken event has 2 time and Island of Blessing only has 1 time. This thread has been up for several maintenances so we should all take the hint that nothing will be done.

[sithewarrior]

Even if the higher levels quit, it doesn't change the fact that this thread should have more voices to it - voices of which do not include flaming posts against each other. Once Shadow and I see just how much support this thread can and should be receiving, we will act upon it.

Thread has been up since 06-19-2013 stickied some time after
Issue has been brought up since the introduction of perfect frag 03-06-2013 (?)

At what point is there enough support for the issue when its clearly an ongoing issue?

[BrotherVT]

Thread has been up since 06-19-2013 stickied some time after
Issue has been brought up since the introduction of perfect frag 03-06-2013 (?)

At what point is there enough support for the issue when its clearly an ongoing issue?

You're a couple months behind my post, bud.
Don't think that Shadow and I have given up.
We're still pushing this because we know how unfair it is.