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    "Freedom of speech does not apply here?" Get over yourself R2. Its a human right to free speech. .Its in the constitution.Are you really trying to deny people a right that has been in place for centuries? I am calling for some legal advice, because you are not permitted to do any such thing.

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    Don't be childish, will you? If you really want freedom of speech, will you satisfy their abuse of freedom? Pick your poison and think twice before you post nonsense.

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    • #3
      I m not posting nonsense, nor am I being childish. I believe I have a right to speak my opinion about what is happening. Being censored because of it is wrong.

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      • #4
        Should have thought of that before you agreed to the Terms of Service.
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        • #5
          Have you read the ToS in full? I ve done nothing wrong.

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          • #6
            Yes you are: making false reports, accusing r2 of nothing and so forth. Not to mention, GM will close this thread.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by orphen20 View Post
              Yes you are: making false reports, accusing r2 of nothing and so forth. Not to mention, GM will close this thread.
              objection, this is not a false reports and he is not accusing but he tell the truth also you are a *********, please leave right now
              I love myself.

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              • #8
                Thats right, I made no accusation on here, false or otherwise. I simply asked if we were being denied a simple right that is in our constitution. Orphen20, maybe you do not have as much knowledge of the law as I do, seeing as I am currently taking my 2nd year of Law and Legal Practice in school and you seem to be trying to do nothing more aside from provoking people and throwing your own accusations around. READ the ToS, and tell me where I did not follow them.

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                • #9
                  Freedom of Speech, as outlined in the First Amendment, only applies to restrictions on speech imposed by the government. A private party, such as R2, has every right to restrict what is said on its forums. R2 is not a government entity, therefore the First Amendment doesn't apply.

                  However, that doesn't make R2's actions in the past few days right. Instead of complaining on the forums, make a statement with your wallet. Cancel your VIPs and then file a ticket as to exactly why you did (forum censorship headed off by ShadowGammaDraco). I did it on all of my accounts.

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                  • #10
                    Now THAT is the type of intellectual feedback I was looking for. Glad to know there are people on here who use their head.Good call Ghost.

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                    • #11
                      It's pointless. Please close the thread.

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                      • #12
                        Freedom of speech includes the right:

                        Test your First Amendment knowledge (usatoday.com)Quiz: Test your First Amendment knowledge (usatoday.com)

                        Not to speak (specifically, the right not to salute the flag).
                        West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943).
                        Of students to wear black armbands to school to protest a war (“Students do not shed their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate.”).
                        Tinker v. Des Moines, 393 U.S. 503 (1969).
                        To use certain offensive words and phrases to convey political messages.
                        Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).
                        To contribute money (under certain circumstances) to political campaigns.
                        Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1 (1976).
                        To advertise commercial products and professional services (with some restrictions).
                        Virginia Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Consumer Council, 425 U.S. 748 (1976); Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, 433 U.S. 350 (1977).
                        To engage in symbolic speech, e.g., burning the flag in protest.
                        Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989); United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990).

                        Freedom of speech does not include the right:

                        To incite actions that would harm others (e.g. “[S]hout[ing] ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”).
                        Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919).
                        To make or distribute obscene materials.
                        Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
                        To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
                        United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
                        To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
                        Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).
                        Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
                        Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).
                        Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
                        Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).
                        http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalR...peechMean.aspx
                        now i'm going to compare that to forum rules
                        Originally posted by R2CS_Aeolus View Post
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                        as you see, Freedom of speech doesn't apply here,1. Do NOT use offensive, unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable language.

                        2. There will be no discussion based on a national, political, religious, sexual or ethnic nature. Please stay on topic.
                        in Real life yes you can use offensive language etc and politics to speak, here no. that has nothing to do with the game. and you only have the right to Free speech as long as your rights do not infringe upon those of others even in real life. i can dance and sing like a crazy hobo down the street flailing my arms because I am Free and have that right, until someone walks down the same side walk as me, do i have to stop swinging my arms? no. but they equally have rights to be protected from my hands smacking them, and since they have the right to be on public property, they can be where ever they want. but if that arm was to smack them as walking by, my arm would be responsible for infringing on anothers freedom and causing them harm, not because they didn't get out of the way when stampeding like a elephant bulldozing them down to the ground. again, that is in real life, this is a Private service where you agreed to conditions for using this service.
                        in this case, those other threads are infringing on the community and are False reports just to incite people to anger etc etc etc, so there are infringing on everyone else's privileges of being able to enjoy the game or seek help. so the privileges those people had to speak were removed as should be.
                        5. Powerposting, spamming, bumping, and flaming will result in the post being removed without any further notice.

                        anyone who can't accept this will have their privileges removed until you can properly handle yourself in the community
                        Last edited by ShadowGammaDraco; 03-24-2013, 02:44 PM.

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