Rest in peace Sengolia

[xbruce]

Seng needs to be divided.

Yeah people are gonna flame and troll and whatever, and I don't care - cause this post is for the developers =)

Anyway, we already have an L1 and L2 all that should be implemented is a slight plane check and place the respected plan in the respected "L" (much like 2 avernals) ; sure L1 and L2 being for all levels work at the beginning of the server, but tell me; is sengolia supposed to be over in 5 minutes because of the level 100 scions? or last over 30 minutes because the scions need to farm honor/kills for medals? something tells me, no - it's not. So, how about we stuff the mortals in L1, and the scions in L2. you may want to buff up the life forces and towers in L2 for them as well, so they can't kill the thing in 5 minutes LOL. make it more of a challenge yeah? unless you mean the challenge is playing as a lowbie that has no chance in hell against a capped scion...

Really, boring... :/

That is all lol.

[R21892248]

The fixed heal part is because towers and crystals take fixed damage, so if heal stays unchanged, people of lower lvl can't heal much against the damage being dealt, or when CS develops more you might have priests being able to out-heal all damage done on towers.
The IP filter idea, I'm not sure, I was afraid that the team-reward system is too good for people to abuse and farm silvers / honor on alts. May be it can be removed since getting silvers on alts doesn't really improve your main, unless you use those silvers for bound breeding stones to breed tradable pets xD

[smurfs16]

I like all the changes to crystal/tower's stats, they really need to be more of a challenge: towers are down'd within 10sec now and the players get hit for 1's.
However don't fix the heal from player->towers/crystals, keep it playerstat-based. IP-filter is a little too unbeneficial: I use 2 chars, first I play on my ranger to get the 33 kills/4silvers, then I log off and start my priest to gain some too. With the IP-filter I would be able to participate with only one of them, making the other one fall behind greatly (and it's not easy to obtain silvers from elsewhere aka wishing well, all other events are outside my timezone)

[Splinterz]

The more players you kill in Seng, the more silver badges you receive, win or lose. Some players won't care about winning or losing seng as the rewards are worthless to them. But they will care about getting enough kills for the maximum number of silver badges. The flip side of this, is that some players are so powerful, that the crystal of life could be destroyed in just a few minutes, ending the battle ground for everyone. It really is up to the more powerful players, (including cashers), do decide how Seng ends. So, for those who think Seng is unfair or too hard or stupid or whatever, your choices are simple. Develop your character so that you can compete, or ignore Seng and gather your honor and badges through pve.

[R21892248]

Sengolia revamp

First, I want to start of this thread by saying I'm a lvl 100 scion who can hold my ground in Seng pretty well, but I want to suggest these so that Sengolia can be more enjoyable by even lowbies (instead of just being a tool for high lvls to farm badges/honor) and I hope that if these ideas get implemented, then people will have to strategize more for Seng instead of just rushing for crystals or farming at spawn point like what is going on now. Generally, the spawn killing problem has a root cause, which is the individual reward system. This system also makes it pretty unfair for full support priests in a new server where they can't get enough kill for badge even if Seng goes on for a full 1 hour. In order to resolve these problems, I propose the following changes:

- Remove the honor/badge gain from kills
- Give the entire team 1 silver badge and 50 honor for every tower destroyed
- Give the entire team 5 honor for every guardian killed
- Boost up tower's damage to deal damage based on the enemy's max hp (around 5-10% / tick)
- Change tower and crystal's hp and damage received formula to be similar to turkey boss / night thief (fixed 100k dmg / hit, but the hp needs to be higher than the turkey / thief because now you can have a maximum of 30 people attacking them at once, not just 1-5 people like it was during event)
- Crystal has rebound damage (just like the lvl 58 ladder mobs, for each hit on the crystal, you lose a certain percentage amount of your max hp)
- Boost up guardian's damage to deal damage based on the enemy's max hp (around 3-5% / hit)
- Guardian receives damage as usual
- Guardians will not cross the middle of the field (so that they can actually attack the opposite players instead of engaging in fighting with other guardians, and results in players totally ignore them)
- Allows priests and rangers to heal towers, crystals and guardians. Healing is fixed at 20k / cast on towers / crystals, and normal healing amount for guardians
- Implement IP filter to prevent people bringing alts into Sengolia to abuse the boosted team-reward system
- Implement a damage-immunity area like delivery
- Keep the 80 honor / 240 honor + silver badge reward for losing / winning team

In my opinion, if these ideas get implemented, then it will benefits lowbies and supporters more (as they have more chance to gain badges), minimize the spawn killing issue (as there is no use for doing this anymore, unless you have already pushed to the enemy's crystal and want to stop them from coming out to defend, and in this case Seng would end soon anyway, as only winning matters, killing doesn't) and encourage teamworks. With the towers and guardians doing sufficient damage to even lvl 100 scions (damage based on % max hp), they will become a real "defense line" that make people to not take them lightly anymore and will actually have to find the way to take those down while watching out for the other team. The fixed damage part and healing on towers / guardians also means that lowbies can contribute as much as high lvls to their team's winning, preventing overpowered players from taking down towers / crystals in seconds, as well as making healing less useless in Seng.

I know many high lvl players might oppose this idea as it takes away their advantage in Seng and allows lowbies to benefit from their works too. But on the other hand, I believe these changes will bring about a better Sengolia where it is a real battleground with people actually have to try to get together to win and give lowbies a chance to contribute to the winning of the team too.

[Mevolent]

and also. just one more point. how about when there are 2 scions just outside the spawn point and do not allow any of the other side to even leave the spawn area. they just sit there and farm noobs and the only ones who can get out are the shadow rouges.lol. how is that fair game play. these 2 "nameless scions" farm honor and i feel that they should at least try to make it a fun fight. no one has fun and most just leave sengo without even getting the reward whether win or lose. i mean come on. how fun is it to just kill like that with no skill needed. Kinda pathetic if u ask me. I hope they are working on new coding for this problem and i for one will welcome it with open arms.

[R21892248]

they should just put lvl brackets 30-45 together 45-60 60-75 75-90 90-100 problem solved... it would also make seng actually enjoyable

All that would make will be to decrease the population in seng dramatically, imagine a sengolia with 2v2 or 3v3? Or may be it's worse in newer server where the fastest lvler will always be alone in Seng and can't kill for silver badges? As for making an immunity area, then many people have also stated that the honor farmers will just stand on the edge of the area and kill lowbies as they run by, so that actually won't solve the problem. The best way to solve this, in my opinion, is a huge revamp of the whole Sengolia concept which I doubt that will happen.

[LeeJohnstonGames]

they should just put lvl brackets 30-45 together 45-60 60-75 75-90 90-100 problem solved... it would also make seng actually enjoyable

[Chelsia]

Everything is easy said but not so easily done. I believe the devs are working on it, but give them time as if they are going to fix seng, they will need some time to work on some new coding =)

[Mevolent]

I never made a comment about the imbalance. i was talking about the honorless farmers who spawn kill the noobs. i am a scion and dont spawn kill cause i actually like a good fight. they need to fix that problem.

[LeeJohnstonGames]

Theres a lot more wrong with this game and imbalances then seng lol.... and wartunes nothin like crystal saga it has a pokemon gameboy battling style... its wackkkk

[Hyorinmaru6]

This issue has been stated many times (i think way above 20 to 30 times) and have been given the same reply (not happening right now but might in the future) so i suggest that u stop complaining about the imbalance cause its not getting fixed because there is nothing to fix since sengo is a >>>> "BATTLEGROUND" <<<< and over power is basic when it comes to battle grounds so there is nothing u nor i can do about it (unless r2 decides that this case shall end by making a way for the anti spawn kills ok) and u know that there is a solution for the spawn kill (u can attack others when ur in the 10 sec HP and mana regan so nobody comes too close because they can get attacked and this solution is effective to almost all class except rogues and knights who r not long ranged) OK.

[Katori]

You didn't mention about what the imbalance is. o.0 And, I for one am a level 59 rogue, and my server has scions, and 80-ish players. I don't find it that I have much struggle with them in Seng.

[Mevolent]

Complete Imbalance in Seng O.o

Ok. i am sure u have heard all this before, but i am gonna state it again.....Can u all fix the imbalances in seng. I am one of the few scions who dont "farm" honor of the noobies(lower levels) in sengola by spawn killing. I actually try to get my honor the "honorable" way and that is killing them as they are fighting back. Sengola is not fun anymore and is a dying event due to your inability to fix the loopholes or your just "not giving a ****" if peeps leave a server. I guess you think if they will leave the server, thus causing a merge, they will jump to a new one. Well jokes on you, lots of peeps are leaving the entire game. If you, and i mean R2, continue to not care about the new servers and the imbalances, u rick the entire game coming down around your ears. I have not tried the new wartune, but if it is run like this one, i believe you have the makings of a fail before long. I have seen numerous threads about this same issue and you have not fixed the oproblem. Its obvious that you dont intend to...so Cheers, you have lost a lot of players, many, if not cashers....are at least VIPers.

[MemoryLane]

All this will do is reduce the population in seng. It will solve none of the complaints.