Messenger of Darkness is stunned

[toxicode95]

"hero" is singular, not plural, therefore it is only for her. Also the "description" your posting is her skill description, therefore it would be extremely logical to assume that the stun resist would be related to having to use her skill...

by your logic dragon fury should be disabled simply by her being there since it doesnt explicitly say that skill is required to activate it.

well since R2 is publisher not developer so there's bound to be bad description lol,
actually R2 always seems to be having problem giving accurate description on some things
so, well there comes the "hero" thing

and the vague description of whether the hero itself is immune or the skill is actually the one making "heroes" immune or 1 hero for each buff
so "hero"

[toxicode95]

anyway while we're talking about immune to stun
do you think virgo blessing give resistane to stun or confuse(disorder) ?
since leo blessing clearly state it gave RES to stun
but virgo
disorder to stun?
is it supposed to be RES to disorder?
or RES to stun just like Leo blessing?
what do you guys think?

[blahblah11]

"hero" is singular, not plural, therefore it is only for her. Also the "description" your posting is her skill description, therefore it would be extremely logical to assume that the stun resist would be related to having to use her skill...

by your logic dragon fury should be disabled simply by her being there since it doesnt explicitly say that skill is required to activate it.

If you want to get stupid about logic and grammar, then please re-read the description and understand the sentence structure of the description. If you notice in one sentence it describe the buff, then in parenthesis (Dragon Fury effect will be disabled) indicating that disabling dragon fury effect is PART of the skill buff, then they added a period, starting a new sentence with "Hero is immune to Disorder and Stun."

[R23121670]

yep, and its all under something called, oh what did it say again? oh yes "Skill Description"...so since im being stupid about logic and grammar I guess it shouldnt be wise to assume a description under something called "skill description" should be considered as requiring the skill to activate, my bad lol.

I guess another bug will be that executioner doesnt activate everytime target is under 24% hp then. It seems like this only happens when he is using his rage skill, but since its after a period it should definitely be getting used whether rage skill is active or not right? ES skill is Thunder Strike, so Executioner being after the period means it has to be second bonus skill active at all times right?



As for angel stun RES and disorder ****, when I've tried it Ive noticed no difference at all from my side, but I know when others use it they seem to get a lot of luck with both res and disorder rate. (I believe "disorder to stun" means it gives increased chances to stun, but Im not 100% on that since I never noticed any difference when I use it in either direction)

[Distrofikus]

I guess another bug will be that executioner doesnt activate everytime target is under 24% hp then. It seems like this only happens when he is using his rage skill, but since its after a period it should definitely be getting used whether rage skill is active or not right? ES skill is Thunder Strike, so Executioner being after the period means it has to be second bonus skill active at all times right?

Read description more precicely : Executioner will be triggered when target's HP is lower than 24% (Executioner causes death to the target wheneve it hits).

And in MoD skill says that hero IS immune, like hecates skill Requires no rage. Otherwice Hecate need 75 or 100 rage to cast skill to get this no rage requirement?

[MagusRynd]

As you can see Messenger is stunned, even if she is immune to stuns

i can expect that. like hecate still heals even under effect of valkyrie's deception.

[R23121670]

Read description more precicely : Executioner will be triggered when target's HP is lower than 24% (Executioner causes death to the target wheneve it hits).

And in MoD skill says that hero IS immune, like hecates skill Requires no rage. Otherwice Hecate need 75 or 100 rage to cast skill to get this no rage requirement?

as you say, it says "Executioner WILL be triggered when target's HP is lower than 24%" meaning it shouldnt require a rage skill to be triggered if a period exists in the desciption of the skill like that prior master lord genius claimed it does.

[toxicode95]

so after all the craps we're spouting here
I still see things like this

Earthshaker = Executioner is a buff from his skill if the enemy hit by his skill is under 24% then it's instant kill and blah blah blah, NOT an additional skill that actives all the time (only active when skill is triggered, thus giving another buff to ES when it does triggered by giving extra dmg)

Hecate = still heals after got deception, why? cuz deception don't force you to ATTACK but IF you attack it hits only valkyrie thus the reason why hecate still heal, and the description of does not need rage to trigger refer to the skill not needing any rage (just like how ES skill says 50 rage to trigger and so on the other heroes)

Messenger of Dark = again, the "hero is immune to stun and disorder" refer to the buff giving a single hero immunity to stun and disorder, so as long as the buff's there, the hero who have this buff is immune to stun


I never saw skill description which refer to the ability of the hero itself that active all the time
don't be foolish by thinking skill description (active ability need to be triggered) as hero passive ability (active all the time)


EDIT : I have confirmed that virgo's blessing is indeed RES to disorder, tried it against totem 4-2 (skewer skill inflicts silence, alike with disorder I think, and it doesn't always inflict when I use virgo blessing, otherwise it inflicts silence all the time)

[MagusRynd]

so after all the craps we're spouting here
I still see things like this

Earthshaker = Executioner is a buff from his skill if the enemy hit by his skill is under 24% then it's instant kill and blah blah blah, NOT an additional skill that actives all the time (only active when skill is triggered, thus giving another buff to ES when it does triggered by giving extra dmg)

Hecate = still heals after got deception, why? cuz deception don't force you to ATTACK but IF you attack it hits only valkyrie thus the reason why hecate still heal, and the description of does not need rage to trigger refer to the skill not needing any rage (just like how ES skill says 50 rage to trigger and so on the other heroes)

Messenger of Dark = again, the "hero is immune to stun and disorder" refer to the buff giving a single hero immunity to stun and disorder, so as long as the buff's there, the hero who have this buff is immune to stun


I never saw skill description which refer to the ability of the hero itself that active all the time
don't be foolish by thinking skill description (active ability need to be triggered) as hero passive ability (active all the time)


EDIT : I have confirmed that virgo's blessing is indeed RES to disorder, tried it against totem 4-2 (skewer skill inflicts silence, alike with disorder I think, and it doesn't always inflict when I use virgo blessing, otherwise it inflicts silence all the time)

oh really? then why does hecate attack her team mate when under effect of sagittarius? by yer logic, she shouldnt attack her team mate even under effect of sagittarius. sagittarius and abyssal gaze are basically same. only difference is that you attack own team mate in former, and valkyrie in latter.

[blahblah11]

Valk skill is a taunt, Sagittarius is confuse. If valk skill hits a target that require rage to cast and doesn't have rage to cast, the target will hit valk, if the target have rage to cast or doesn't require rage to cast, it will cast the skill. If the skill is offensive it will hit valk (es/herc is exception, as he ignores deception (taunt)). If the skill is defensive (hecate, astral hunter, ner, ect) they will cast normally. Thus valk/dark valk isn't as effective in pvp when almost everyone is running IRB. So no, valk skill and Sagittarius effect are not the same.

[toxicode95]

oh really? then why does hecate attack her team mate when under effect of sagittarius? by yer logic, she shouldnt attack her team mate even under effect of sagittarius. sagittarius and abyssal gaze are basically same. only difference is that you attack own team mate in former, and valkyrie in latter.

Valk skill is a taunt, Sagittarius is confuse. If valk skill hits a target that require rage to cast and doesn't have rage to cast, the target will hit valk, if the target have rage to cast or doesn't require rage to cast, it will cast the skill. If the skill is offensive it will hit valk (es/herc is exception, as his skill ignores deception (taunt)). If the skill is defensive (hecate, astral hunter, ner, ect) they will cast normally. Thus valk/dark valk isn't as effective in pvp when almost everyone is running IRB. So no, valk skill and Sagittarius effect are not the same.

exactly, even if they've the same animation for the debuff, their effects totally different
one is confuse (attack teammates even if they can use skill)
one is deception (taunt) (if attack targets the one who use the taunt / deception skill, WITH or WITHOUT skill, but hecate doesn't attack, since her skill is healing, not attack hecate still heals, the same if it's nereida/ LE/ other healer/ support)

and here I thought you're old player who should know about this kind of thing.
seriously, did you even think before you commented?

[Distrofikus]

Still no answer from Devs, who will explane MoD skill/ability

[toxicode95]

Still no answer from Devs, who will explane MoD skill/ability

you want an answer from devs?
file a ticket to GTArcade, they're the developer lol

[Distrofikus]

http://s119-loa.r2games.com/share.ph...154a3d3f2779fa

[Distrofikus]

how you will explane this battle, totems 5-2.

She was under her skill buff, but did attacked enemie anyway, and she had full rage. In the end of battle