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    Hard time deciding: I can get any of the 3 heroes. Hecate, Earth Shaker or Light Envoy. I saved ALOT of Card Vouchers to end in top 5 for the Large Joker and have the Ace cards.

    My Party is Sorceror (lvl 75), Berserker Claw (strongest Hero for me), Djinni, Nereida, and King of Bones. Main and King in front. Rest back. I didn't spend much on the Heroes besides Claw and hence King feels close to useless in my party. The other two at least does some good with enhanced gear and upgrade level 12.

    Alternatives.

    1) Get Hecate to replace Djinni? Hecate seems to be a great Hero and every one recommends getting. Issue is that she doesn't seem to heal much more than Djinni does and I got the healing blade and totem (though could switch to another totem).

    2) Get Earth Shaker and replace King 'o Bones. I'd need to start spending resources on upgrading ES and would stop developing Claw. Second hitter would be nice though.

    3) Get Light Envoy and replace Nereida? Seems useless? The rage seems more important than the buff?

    4) Get Light Envoy and replace King o' Bones. King is useless now and with both I'd have Djinni heal more and rest of the heroes using skills more often. Seems like a good idea? Can still mostly spend on developing Claw but who would be 2nd hero in front next to the main?

  • #2
    fer now, get ES to replace KB. later, if you can afford another enigma hero, get LE/hecate to replace djinni
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    • #3
      easy decision got ES today ,could get any hero....

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      • #4
        Is it so obvious? Getting Earth Shaker pretty much means I have another useless Hero instead of KoB for along time until I get him to 200+ BR at least. Or I inherit from Claw (which is my only strong hero now). Also getting Earth Shaker pretty much means I don't have a strong healer (meaning no Light envoy to help feed rage to djinni). Having better healing to help with Zodiacs and Totems was why I even consider Hecate.

        I'd also assume that if I get Earth Shaker I wont need to try for Light Envoy later? Since it can't be hard to get 50 rage for the skill right?

        At least for me If I think I could get one more Enigma Hero (eventually) I'd assume Light Envoy would be a good choice now? And Moon Priest later? Berserker Claw seems good enough as a main damage dealer and two rage buffers (for main to use skills also) seems really good?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FBerntsson View Post
          Is it so obvious? Getting Earth Shaker pretty much means I have another useless Hero instead of KoB for along time until I get him to 200+ BR at least. Or I inherit from Claw (which is my only strong hero now). Also getting Earth Shaker pretty much means I don't have a strong healer (meaning no Light envoy to help feed rage to djinni). Having better healing to help with Zodiacs and Totems was why I even consider Hecate.

          I'd also assume that if I get Earth Shaker I wont need to try for Light Envoy later? Since it can't be hard to get 50 rage for the skill right?

          At least for me If I think I could get one more Enigma Hero (eventually) I'd assume Light Envoy would be a good choice now? And Moon Priest later? Berserker Claw seems good enough as a main damage dealer and two rage buffers (for main to use skills also) seems really good?
          for me you dont need healer.. you can 1hit anything with that ES..... just put all your resources in it then its a killing machine 1hitting people with 700k hp hahahah

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          • #6
            Originally posted by R2770413 View Post
            for me you dont need healer.. you can 1hit anything with that ES..... just put all your resources in it then its a killing machine 1hitting people with 700k hp hahahah
            I have been fortunate enough to be in Angel Cup, and wanna hear the truth? My 370k atk ES struggled to do 370-450k dmg on crits to my opponents with around over 190-200k def, Hecate on the other hand crit healed for close to over 800-900k heals, every turn. Now if you compare ES 50 rage requirement and Hecate no rage requirement, you should be able to figure out the mathematical outcome of such battle. ES or KingKong is not useless but at endgame you do need other Heroes that can do combo dmg with ES, ES by himself is not that much of a killing machine at late lvls with on par defensive stat foes sadly.

            And forget mains, they become by far the most useless in terms of dmg dealing in comparison to heroes, lol.

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            • #7
              Berserker Claw is fine to focus on as main damage dealer then? I guess if I get Earth Shaker I would replace Claw as main damage since I can't spend resources on both. I do recharge but not so much. I saved well over 700 vouchers to get Master of Poker this time.

              Would Hecate be better to get now or stay with Djinni and get Light Envoy with the intent to get Moon Priest next month (after saving vouchers again).

              Thing is that in my CoM range other players have Earth Shaker but they aren't really scary. Mostly since my main is in front and has the lowest HP he tries to hit and misses all the time. While Headless horseman or Berserker Claw actually does damage. Not sure if its just because those players spent more on +hit gems, dragonsoul, etc, or if its because Warrior type have lower +hit than rogue? Then again in Team arena you meet players with way stronger Earth Shakers.....that do hit.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Freedom1987 View Post
                I have been fortunate enough to be in Angel Cup, and wanna hear the truth? My 370k atk ES struggled to do 370-450k dmg on crits to my opponents with around over 190-200k def, Hecate on the other hand crit healed for close to over 800-900k heals, every turn. Now if you compare ES 50 rage requirement and Hecate no rage requirement, you should be able to figure out the mathematical outcome of such battle. ES or KingKong is not useless but at endgame you do need other Heroes that can do combo dmg with ES, ES by himself is not that much of a killing machine at late lvls with on par defensive stat foes sadly.

                And forget mains, they become by far the most useless in terms of dmg dealing in comparison to heroes, lol.
                i saw at the angel world cup ES 1hit something... maybe you do it wrong XD someone posted a fight ES attack 1st and killed 2 ....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FBerntsson View Post
                  Berserker Claw is fine to focus on as main damage dealer then? I guess if I get Earth Shaker I would replace Claw as main damage since I can't spend resources on both. I do recharge but not so much. I saved well over 700 vouchers to get Master of Poker this time.

                  Would Hecate be better to get now or stay with Djinni and get Light Envoy with the intent to get Moon Priest next month (after saving vouchers again).

                  Thing is that in my CoM range other players have Earth Shaker but they aren't really scary. Mostly since my main is in front and has the lowest HP he tries to hit and misses all the time. While Headless horseman or Berserker Claw actually does damage. Not sure if its just because those players spent more on +hit gems, dragonsoul, etc, or if its because Warrior type have lower +hit than rogue? Then again in Team arena you meet players with way stronger Earth Shakers.....that do hit.
                  i dont know with claw i got 220k atk claw but i feel his weak not enough damage to kill same br hecate.... but im sure if my claw is ES i can kill that hecate

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by R2770413 View Post
                    i saw at the angel world cup ES 1hit something... maybe you do it wrong XD someone posted a fight ES attack 1st and killed 2 ....
                    Do it wrong? No sir I had set of double stat gems on each pieces of lvl 11 atk+hp and atk+def, with agility focus build who hits first and take out opponents ASAP, but since you are so convinced about ES being so OP, I will let you experience it in first hand, when you come across well balanced def+atk foes and has a Hecate well versed on heal and defensive measures. And we only had crappy Royal gears to boot Angel cup, now with Holy and God gears with special abilities, the stakes are even higher for survival. And as HP hits close to 2 mill, it will only get harder to 1 hit peoples, as I explained my ES was maxed on element and upgrade, had probably the best set of gems out of all party members, he just couldn't 1 hit the guy with 200k def even with his 370k+ patk, only did about 30% total dmg to health, which was around 380-450k on critical. And his Hecate healed back for 800k crit heals every turn, while my ES did skill every other turns lol. Most of the time the battle would end in draw. The thing most don't realize is most people that has Hecate, has almost no element lvls, so these Hecates has almost no def against elemental dmg, once that's covered, you will see how much harder it gets to kill a Hecate with defensive stats pumped to max like a main. Maybe I gave out more info than I should lol.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Freedom1987 View Post
                      Do it wrong? No sir I had set of double stat gems on each pieces of lvl 11 atk+hp and atk+def, with agility focus build who hits first and take out opponents ASAP, but since you are so convinced about ES being so OP, I will let you experience it in first hand, when you come across well balanced def+atk foes and has a Hecate well versed on heal and defensive measures. And we only had crappy Royal gears to boot Angel cup, now with Holy and God gears with special abilities, the stakes are even higher for survival. And as HP hits close to 2 mill, it will only get harder to 1 hit peoples, as I explained my ES was maxed on element and upgrade, had probably the best set of gems out of all party members, he just couldn't 1 hit the guy with 200k def even with his 370k+ patk, only did about 30% total dmg to health, which was around 380-450k on critical. And his Hecate healed back for 800k crit heals every turn, while my ES did skill every other turns lol. Most of the time the battle would end in draw. The thing most don't realize is most people that has Hecate, has almost no element lvls, so these Hecates has almost no def against elemental dmg, once that's covered, you will see how much harder it gets to kill a Hecate with defensive stats pumped to max like a main. Maybe I gave out more info than I should lol.
                      ok...............

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                      • #12
                        i still believe offense is the best defense...make all your party with the highest agility and damage then 2 rounds is enough lmao

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                        • #13
                          Got ES yesterday now i can kill top BR on our server who has hecate. i am 1 mil BR him 1,4 mil BR enough said .

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Donatas33 View Post
                            Got ES yesterday now i can kill top BR on our server who has hecate. i am 1 mil BR him 1,4 mil BR enough said .
                            love this =) i want ES also lol better than my claw for sure

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                            • #15
                              Pretty much decided to go with Hecate. Berserker Claw seems a nicer damage dealer for my team. Electro/Fire Dragonsoul so doesn't compete with main at all (or well Fire/Dodge dragonsoul on main but still). Hecate will help with Zodiacs and other PVE for sure. Not sure if Hecate will replace Djinni or King of Bones though. Djinni quite often survives with dragon soul skill to get a heal off; while King 'o Bones never does anything.....

                              I spent most of my resources on the Berserker Claw so King 'o Bones hans't been built up. Can always get Light Envoy later I guess if its needed. I am not competing for any top spots in tournaments so nicer to get help with PvE at the moment I think.

                              Thanks for your input all!

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