I'm Done

[MagusRynd]

Well then, don't cry that your party has been countered if you won't even bother to try and find a way to counter it instead. Problem with people here has always been that they don't want to use their gray tissue to fix their problems and just count on others. If you think that it's such a big problem and that you won't be able to recover, just be done with it as you named the topic.

http://ua9-loa.r2games.com/share.php...2547de15c602ee no fire totem, still one hitting 2 mln+ hp targets. I know it's a lost fight, but still does the trick.

okay now, ill clear my stand one more time. yer point here is really crude, and not exactly related to this thread.

what im sayin is that by using dragon totem, yer only gaining the rage that youve lost, so you lose the advantage of other totem that you were previously using. while opponent is still gaining the rage, so thats advantage to the opponent. its basically same thing as one player using dragon totem and other using no totem at all.

what yer sayin is that make yer attacker strong nuff to compensate fire totem that you can no longer deploy now? is that even related to discussion of totems? when we compare totems, we assume that both the players are evenly matched, and what impact will totems have in that case. heck if im double in strength compared to my opponent, i wont even need totem.

[MagusRynd]

Actually this totem is quite useless imo, it will only help if you know your opponents formation before hand otherwise your simply leaving it to luck.
so formation wise it doesnt really favor any side.
all it does is decrease your opponents rage by 25 am i right? arent you kind of wasting your totem space too then? if enemy uses dragon totem to counter it, all it basically means is that both of you have wasted your totems. if you get a dragon ruby totem you get 30 rage+ where as your opponent wasted their totem decreasing your rage by 25....
the way i see it using spiritsoul ruby totem isnt that good an idea.

sir, it reduces yer opponent's rage AND increases yer rage as well

[R213755235]

Ok so. Spiritsoul totem wont be a problem for attackers, only when you're defending, is when it becomes a problem.

So far 10/10 CoM battles and 20/20 compares the defender's totem ALWAYS moves first. A guildie also compared and said my totem moves first. So people that are dependant on the LE/Dragon combo will have a problem defending their spot.

I only see this being a problem in CS Team Tourney, where the right side is marked as attackers and left side as defenders, which is annoying IMO.

[Painindaback]

okay now, ill clear my stand one more time. yer point here is really crude, and not exactly related to this thread.

what im sayin is that by using dragon totem, yer only gaining the rage that youve lost, so you lose the advantage of other totem that you were previously using. while opponent is still gaining the rage, so thats advantage to the opponent. its basically same thing as one player using dragon totem and other using no totem at all.

what yer sayin is that make yer attacker strong nuff to compensate fire totem that you can no longer deploy now? is that even related to discussion of totems? when we compare totems, we assume that both the players are evenly matched, and what impact will totems have in that case. heck if im double in strength compared to my opponent, i wont even need totem.

If you haven't built strong enough hero to one hit stronger opponents, you've been playing this game badly. My point was that you can still beat players with that totem, without having one yourself. So they got an advantage.. big deal, makes it so much sweeter when you beat them.
Now tell me one thing, why did you open this tread when the ruby spiritsoul totem was released and not the purple one? It's the same damn thing, last less turns.. but how often have you fought for over 8 turns in PvP?...
Oh yes, one more thing... free players could've taken the purple totem if they wanted to so you wouldn't have had to deal with just cashers.
If you think about it, everyone sort of had the same chance of getting those, the difference is... some got it, others didn't, due to being greedy and taking the better rewards.

[blahblah11]

Your argument is that if you can't build to one shot a stronger opponent, then you must suck...Do you even understand basic logic? If you can build to one shot a stronger opponent, what makes you think they can't one shot you? So that basically void your "theory" on how to counter this totem, back to the original point, that spirit soul is not only good, but to give away a ruby version of it so easily, is absurd at this stage in the game. They need to slowly work to it, like they did with thanksgiving, they limited 1 purple purchase per day, at a pretty high cost for a reason. They started to only give tier 2 heroic gear for top 1/5/20 and slowly worked their way to 100/200 for a reason. You don't find it odd that they just simply give away the BEST overall totem thats just been released to pretty much 1 person per server on a very easy event, that any f2p can save materials for and any medium+ casher can afford? You're out of your mind, putting aside what you THINK of the totem, the point is that jumping from release to a ruby grade, to 1 person per server is stupid. Orange for beach maybe that is still pretty high, top 1/5/20 for ruby in cstycoon, yes thats how rare item should be introduced.

[Aistian_S17]

Your argument is that if you can't build to one shot a stronger opponent, then you must suck...Do you even understand basic logic? If you can build to one shot a stronger opponent, what makes you think they can't one shot you? So that basically void your "theory" on how to counter this totem, back to the original point, that spirit soul is not only good, but to give away a ruby version of it so easily, is absurd at this stage in the game. They need to slowly work to it, like they did with thanksgiving, they limited 1 purple purchase per day, at a pretty high cost for a reason. They started to only give tier 2 heroic gear for top 1/5/20 and slowly worked their way to 100/200 for a reason. You don't find it odd that they just simply give away the BEST overall totem thats just been released to pretty much 1 person per server on a very easy event, that any f2p can save materials for and any medium+ casher can afford? You're out of your mind, putting aside what you THINK of the totem, the point is that jumping from release to a ruby grade, to 1 person per server is stupid. Orange for beach maybe that is still pretty high, top 1/5/20 for ruby in cstycoon, yes thats how rare item should be introduced.

this.

its too good to be given away like that. u say this way non cashers got a chance to get it too? id like to see the server where cashers step back seeing this, and if there are such, +10 gems hook them up anyway

[Painindaback]

Your argument is that if you can't build to one shot a stronger opponent, then you must suck...Do you even understand basic logic? If you can build to one shot a stronger opponent, what makes you think they can't one shot you? So that basically void your "theory" on how to counter this totem, back to the original point, that spirit soul is not only good, but to give away a ruby version of it so easily, is absurd at this stage in the game. They need to slowly work to it, like they did with thanksgiving, they limited 1 purple purchase per day, at a pretty high cost for a reason. They started to only give tier 2 heroic gear for top 1/5/20 and slowly worked their way to 100/200 for a reason. You don't find it odd that they just simply give away the BEST overall totem thats just been released to pretty much 1 person per server on a very easy event, that any f2p can save materials for and any medium+ casher can afford? You're out of your mind, putting aside what you THINK of the totem, the point is that jumping from release to a ruby grade, to 1 person per server is stupid. Orange for beach maybe that is still pretty high, top 1/5/20 for ruby in cstycoon, yes thats how rare item should be introduced.

Let's just pretend that you didn't say this, because I did mention that most opponents can already one-hit you with fire-totem in their face, let alone without one... You've got to start reading before acting so sure on your comments. And yes, it's been so long that most players should already have heroes that can one hit heroes of, close to their BR, opponents, some even higher. Those that don't, have done something wrong.. that's just how it is.
Ye, it was stupid to give out a ruby spiritsoul totem like that, but so what? It was bound to happen sooner or later. And players who don't use their gray matter wouldn't be able to figure out how to deal with it even if it was released later. And they did give away one of the best GAs a week after it was released to 10 players per server, where were you back then to complain about that? 10, not 1 like with the totem. On a "very easy event, that any f2p can save materials for and any medium+ casher can afford".

And Aistian_S17, It seems you have issue with reading. Free players could get the garnet spiritsoul totem without any problems. And they do have a chance to get the ruby one, especially on some servers where there aren't many cashers left.



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[blahblah11]

You keep bringing up this one shot hero and BR and **** for no freaking reason, who gives a ****, thats NOT the point of this topic. Are you that ignorant or just stupid? Your whole paragraph only contain one sentence that pertain to this topic, "Ye, it was stupid to give out a ruby spiritsoul totem like that, but so what? It was bound to happen sooner or later." "sooner or later" is an understatement, yes we all know the totem exist, its been in the diagram since totem was released, no we did not know when, no its not the dev fault for our un-preparedness, however again jumping from a newly released totem, to giving away a ruby version of it for 8k beach points (yes some server will go to 20k+ for it but the min to get is 8k) is the problem. You're gona die sooner or later, does that justify everything you do in life? Oh you have cancer? Oh well you're gona die sooner or later. The point is that the problem exist NOW.

[Painindaback]

You keep bringing up this one shot hero and BR and **** for no freaking reason, who gives a ****, thats NOT the point of this topic. Are you that ignorant or just stupid? Your whole paragraph only contain one sentence that pertain to this topic, "Ye, it was stupid to give out a ruby spiritsoul totem like that, but so what? It was bound to happen sooner or later." "sooner or later" is an understatement, yes we all know the totem exist, its been in the diagram since totem was released, no we did not know when, no its not the dev fault for our un-preparedness, however again jumping from a newly released totem, to giving away a ruby version of it for 8k beach points (yes some server will go to 20k+ for it but the min to get is 8k) is the problem. You're gona die sooner or later, does that justify everything you do in life? Oh you have cancer? Oh well you're gona die sooner or later. The point is that the problem exist NOW.

The point of this topic was that a player felt threatened by this totem (ignoring the fact that garnet totem, which was free, would've done just as much damage to him as a ruby one). And was too lazy to find a way to counter it. Even when given such ways, he dismissed them as pointless. Guess you didn't catch the point yourself.

Again, SECOND BEST Guardian Angel, WEEK AFTER RELEASE, given to TEN players PER SERVER. Ten>one. And a GA of this caliber is a much better upgrade than the previously available ones to most players .. than a spiritsoul totem would be over other totems. Didn't see you complain back then. Biased much?
And the comment about death made absolutely no sense, guess you just decided to put it there so you look cool.

[blahblah11]

I see why you two have so many posts.

[Painindaback]

I see why you two have so many posts.

Because people like you who can't read keep repeating the same thing over and over again, even though it's wrong. I remember you did it in another topic, but there you shut your mouth pretty quickly and hid somewhere.

[uxu4n]

Actually i dont quite get why IRB users are whining about here?

SS totem actually favors dual rage and breaks single rage party like vhunter's and these tourney top players'

The only reason u should whine about is the fast price drop which is out of the blue and nullifies the $$ u put in for garnet. But u get to have gold ss for tourney now dont you? So that's kinda moot as well. Just think of it this way. People who paid for 4 garnets is paying advance to get ticket for gold totem.

Other kind of whining that i see is just sour graping about u cannot have a ruby for beach because u used up shell or dont have the $$ for it.

Anyway. Really? Think about situations and run battle senarios before u whine people. IRB + SS totem is actually made stronger now. Ofc if u dont want to use SS totem then ignore me. Whine about why they release something that has been there since the day totem was released and fixate on the old day's glory. Game change.

[DrigenDragon]

I thought totems were based on who attacks first and I thought that was based on agility or am I mistaken?

[Freedom1987]

you prolly missed this-



-post of mine, which came after this-



-post of yers

:P

lol my bad then.

[Freedom1987]

Because people like you who can't read keep repeating the same thing over and over again, even though it's wrong. I remember you did it in another topic, but there you shut your mouth pretty quickly and hid somewhere.

Let's not get personal, he did pointed out how your emphasis was always on your CLAW 1 hitting and if they didn't have a hero or main that can 1 shot others even with this totem advantage, literally have been doing something wrong their entire game. I call that judgmental, your build is not ideal for everyone except for the sole purpose of winning every battle with almost no tactics applied. On top when he pointed out how few of your sentences are actually related to the topics on your earlier reply, you reply back with seemingly oblivious to the points he pointed out and move on to using yourself as an example and tell them to shut up. Seems to me like you are promoting yourself in a topic thread with your build, when more than half the talk is about how well you do with your build and less about the Spirit Soul totem, some fearing it's obvious advantage when it comes to rage gaining, losing rage for your opponent. Well they should.

On to topic, let's keep in mind we will eventually all get it. And to give you all heads up, there's a totem that's upcoming later, it will silence a line of peoples and shut them out from using skills. LOL now stop whining and do something to adapt and apply different tactics.