Counter measures for Spirit Soul totem

[Painindaback]

That's all well and good, but again... where did I suggest using this? Where? Look my comment again, I was explaining that something is possible. I never said "Ye peeps go for this, it's amazing", did I now?
My "arguments" were that if something can happen once in a millennium, it's still possible. Doesn't mean it's good, doesn't mean it's bad.. it's possible. Everyone else started coming up and saying that it's either good or bad, that wasn't the point of my comment. So apparently you are the ones who are "going away from my original work".
I hope after using the word possible so many times, you already get the meaning of it, but after all those comments... I'm not sure about that. But I guess there's some truth in your comment, if people can't understand even what one simple word means.. then they might really think that I'm suggesting them to go ham on those upgrades...
So I'd also give an alternative option, use the money you spend on the game for education.

Oh and btw, I have seen it. 2 CSTT ago against oneee2's team. He got angel strike on first turn and then another one on second, against our strongest player. The luck wasn't on his side on 3rd turn, however, as he got just 55 rage.

[Raphangelo]

That's all well and good, but again... where did I suggest using this? Where? Look my comment again, I was explaining that something is possible. I never said "Ye peeps go for this, it's amazing", did I now?
My "arguments" were that if something can happen once in a millennium, it's still possible. Doesn't mean it's good, doesn't mean it's bad.. it's possible. Everyone else started coming up and saying that it's either good or bad, that wasn't the point of my comment. So apparently you are the ones who are "going away from my original work".
I hope after using the word possible so many times, you already get the meaning of it, but after all those comments... I'm not sure about that. But I guess there's some truth in your comment, if people can't understand even what one simple word means.. then they might really think that I'm suggesting them to go ham on those upgrades...
So I'd also give an alternative option, use the money you spend on the game for education.

Oh and btw, I have seen it. 2 CSTT ago against oneee2's team. He got angel strike on first turn and then another one on second, against our strongest player. The luck wasn't on his side on 3rd turn, however, as he got just 55 rage.

I have a feeling that you didn't do math well during your w/e education you had. I hope you don't make any financial decision in your life. Stay away from Las Vegas. Everything is possible.

I think the previous reply "Yeah lets just argue everything based on luck, also let me waste an aegis skill, and then even better let me waste an aegis blessing just so angel can have extra 25 rage. Fool proof strategy. " sums up everything.



back to LoA, I think having Arcane Spirit +1 should win the pvp regardless. There is a chance to stun the entire back row every turn if I run IRB w/ it.

Let's play w/ words for a bit
and keep repeating myself it is possible/chance with or without CAPS (to make me sound more awesome)
to everyone else going against what I said.

Despite folks giving me comments with stats, and realistic outcome. Cause "Ive seen it once".

Oh yeah others should get more education.

This reminds me of an experimental mouse w/ brain lesion that kept going at a circle in 1 direction (depending on the lesion we caused). It was entertaining.



well this has been fairly unproductive foruming. Time well wasted. Shoulda helped someone else whos not hopeless. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.

[Painindaback]

I have a feeling that you didn't do math well during your w/e education you had. I hope you don't make any financial decision in your life. Stay away from Las Vegas. Everything is possible.

Math? What do you mean? Explanation can go a long way you know. Not just some random rambling. And the math calculations were shown already by someone else who wanted to be cool, proving that it is possible. You said it yourself as well, so what's with this now? High or something? Contradicting yourself just a few posts apart and talking about education at the same time.

I think the previous reply "Yeah lets just argue everything based on luck, also let me waste an aegis skill, and then even better let me waste an aegis blessing just so angel can have extra 25 rage. Fool proof strategy. " sums up everything.

Again, how does that sum everything? Here's another summing up: Is it possible to get several angel strikes in a row? Yes. Everything else about it being bad or good=pointless. It's your fault for trying to make yourself look cool, by coming up with something that everyone knows, even the one you're trying to argue with.

And here's another theory, Dark Valkyrie+1 crushes Arcane Spirit+1 to smithereens. There is a 100% chance to taunt the Arcane spirit every turn if I run IRB w/ it. I have a chance to win the lottery, but if I'm unable to draw a lottery ticket that won't happen.

[Raphangelo]

Painindaback, you are really a pain.

Everything is possible. Winning a lottery is possible, you getting hit by a lightning is possible. Are you being practical? No.

Me trying to 'look cool'? No. Wasting time with you? Probably yes. Hoping that others understand 'angel attack every turn' isn't practical? I hope so.

Oh you are saying everybody knew? Including yourself I hope? Then why the hell are you repeating yourself in a circle of 'it is possible' again and again? Do you have some sort of rejection problem?


Sorry but world doesn't run on 'possible' for anything.
I hope you don't drive ever in your life based on 'it is possible'. The risk of you injured in a car accident. It is possible. Everybody knows it.
I sincerely hope you don't work in insurance industry.

Lastly this isn't a matter of 'education' u call it. This is a matter of being practical. Hope you never make any adult decision till you understand term 'practical'.


Oh final remark. Yes my dear, everything is possible you said. I still hope you don't aim for it. You can though. Its totally upto you

[Painindaback]

Painindaback, you are really a pain.

Everything is possible. Winning a lottery is possible, you getting hit by a lightning is possible. Are you being practical? No.

Me trying to 'look cool'? No. Wasting time with you? Probably yes. Hoping that others understand 'angel attack every turn' isn't practical? I hope so.

Oh you are saying everybody knew? Including yourself I hope? Then why the hell are you repeating yourself in a circle of 'it is possible' again and again? Do you have some sort of rejection problem?


Sorry but world doesn't run on 'possible' for anything.
I hope you don't drive ever in your life based on 'it is possible'. The risk of you injured in a car accident. It is possible. Everybody knows it.
I sincerely hope you don't work in insurance industry.

Lastly this isn't a matter of 'education' u call it. This is a matter of being practical. Hope you never make any adult decision till you understand term 'practical'.


Oh final remark. Yes my dear, everything is possible you said. I still hope you don't aim for it. You can though. Its totally upto you

See, I'm repeating it, because players like you are trying to make me look like I don't understand what I'm doing. By saying that what I mentioned (not suggested) is bad. I'm repeating that it's possible, because that's the only thing I said earlier. I never said that it's the best damn thing you can do to fool players into trying it. That's what you thought. You simply saw some sentences and thought.. hey let's show what I know about this to look cool. And yes, you did make it to look cool, otherwise you wouldn't try to butt in like that in something that was clear from the very start to those that can understand simple English.

And yet, here you go again, trying to say that it's a bad idea. Yes, it's damn bad idea to upgrade your heroes (that's what you are saying right now), period. Obviously people won't upgrade their heroes just to get a chance for extra angel rage. Everyone understood that already, it was mentioned even by me way earlier than you come in to argue about it.
"including yourself I hope" yep, but then again, I did say that. Are you blind or should I say that you're uneducated yet again if you can't understand simple English?
I do like your random rambling though, it makes you sound like an old chap, yet your arguments are like those of a child.

[SkyFlakes2014]

i'm using astral/nereida back row and soul totem for rage party formation....i can kill 1.8m - 2m BR opponents...i'm only 1.5m BR
your theory is overrated.

[Raphangelo]

See, I'm repeating it, because players like you are trying to make me look like I don't understand what I'm doing. By saying that what I mentioned (not suggested) is bad. I'm repeating that it's possible, because that's the only thing I said earlier. I never said that it's the best damn thing you can do to fool players into trying it. That's what you thought. You simply saw some sentences and thought.. hey let's show what I know about this to look cool. And yes, you did make it to look cool, otherwise you wouldn't try to butt in like that in something that was clear from the very start to those that can understand simple English.

And yet, here you go again, trying to say that it's a bad idea. Yes, it's damn bad idea to upgrade your heroes (that's what you are saying right now), period. Obviously people won't upgrade their heroes just to get a chance for extra angel rage. Everyone understood that already, it was mentioned even by me way earlier than you come in to argue about it.
"including yourself I hope" yep, but then again, I did say that. Are you blind or should I say that you're uneducated yet again if you can't understand simple English?
I do like your random rambling though, it makes you sound like an old chap, yet your arguments are like those of a child.

So where did you say it?
Since you seem to like to make 'clear statement' only and ignoring implied statement (which is perceived by others in real life).
I honestly thought you didn't understand the practical side of your argument since you kept repeating yourself despite tremendous replies by others to your claim.

You seem to only repeating yourself it is 'possible'. I dont see any clear statement that you acknowledge that it is a bad idea or not practical.

First actually, you can make an angel to strike every single turn. Just need developed heroes and some luck.

Ok this is your first statement. Everyone has an opinion, thats fine.

Your math says it's possible, so why argue? I did mention that you'll need luck, but it's still possible.
And as far as another method to get rage... there's one, but it's just for first turn.

Why argue? Well your first statement seemed to be misleading. Not just me, but others assumed that you are making a viable build/suggestion. So that guy supported w/ math. Math my man. But then again you just repeat yourself on your 'clear statement'.

Seriously, what's wrong with you guys? I said it's possible, didn't say it's a good strategy... Do you just want something to argue about? If so, I could find you something and make fun of you like I did before.

What is wrong with us? What is wrong with you? We can't understand your assumption that we know that you know it is a bad strategy. Ya. you didn't stay its a good strategy. We can read. Do we want something to argue about? How about make yourself more clear next time to avoid multiple people replying to you? Make fun of? Looks like this has happened before. 1) Make yourself more clear w/ your claim so people understand you better/fully. Most people/replies seemed to try to help you actually. But thats ok. keep repeating yourself and try to insult others

... where did I say that it's high? Where did I say that it's low?
Did you read any other posts? I said that it's possible, that means it CAN HAPPEN. Maybe it won't happen every time, maybe it won't happen every 10th fight. But it can still happen. That's what possible means.
Start reading comments before you post.

We read your posts. Its same **** over and over again. I think now is about time for you to clearly state that it is not the practical build. We all know what 'possible' means.

Then after this, I made a reply for your nonsense. I didn't know you understood what you wrote in terms of practical use. Well I guess I figured it out after several replies between you and me. Good time wasted


Perhaps you should explain your claim further next time. Only took +10 replies that you know something. I am glad.


Finally, I shoulda just accepted this post and ignored it:

derp post , ignore -_-

[vhunter77]

... where did I say that it's high? Where did I say that it's low?
Did you read any other posts? I said that it's possible, that means it CAN HAPPEN. Maybe it won't happen every time, maybe it won't happen every 10th fight. But it can still happen. That's what possible means.
Start reading comments before you post.

sure it's possible u hit lottery one day.

[vhunter77]

I have a feeling that you didn't do math well during your w/e education you had. I hope you don't make any financial decision in your life. Stay away from Las Vegas. Everything is possible.

I think the previous reply "Yeah lets just argue everything based on luck, also let me waste an aegis skill, and then even better let me waste an aegis blessing just so angel can have extra 25 rage. Fool proof strategy. " sums up everything.



back to LoA, I think having Arcane Spirit +1 should win the pvp regardless. There is a chance to stun the entire back row every turn if I run IRB w/ it.

Let's play w/ words for a bit
and keep repeating myself it is possible/chance with or without CAPS (to make me sound more awesome)
to everyone else going against what I said.

Despite folks giving me comments with stats, and realistic outcome. Cause "Ive seen it once".

Oh yeah others should get more education.

This reminds me of an experimental mouse w/ brain lesion that kept going at a circle in 1 direction (depending on the lesion we caused). It was entertaining.



well this has been fairly unproductive foruming. Time well wasted. Shoulda helped someone else whos not hopeless. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.

now we know someone Failed on math101.

[Painindaback]

Well ugh, sorry... never knew that the word CAN, can be so misleading. You are so can=you are so good, you are so can=you are so bad. Damn, English is hard... If someone has been mislead that just shows enough for their education, nothing more.
And how is my first statement an opinion? It's a fact... you can start with 50 rage and need just 3 heroes to give the angel 10 rage=angel skill on first turn. 100% possible.
While I agree that usually things should be made clear when written, my comment couldn't be more clear than that. Can=to have the ability to do something. Just by reading the sentence, it should be obvious what's meant by it. I'm not using any hard to read/understand words, that are from some distant dialect.

And how are you helping someone if you repeat the same thing after him? O.o What you are doing is something like this: 2 students are doing their homework, 1 explains to the other - "this is how you do it" and the other student replies with "no, this is how you do it" by doing the exact same thing.

Ye, you read my posts and I did yours. Hence my amazement. I never really thought that someone your age could have such problems understanding something that simple.
All I did was try to stop you from repeating the same thing that's been said and ACCEPTED a page back. Yeah, maybe I did it in the wrong way, by making fun of your intellect.. but that just felt better.

We seem to have a case of paranoia, you see things that aren't there.
And there wouldn't have been a need for +10 replies if you could read simple English: can, is, possible... damn sorry, too many syllables, might be too early for you.


Vhunter, 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% is still a chance, or to make it more clear, a possibility.
I could add a million more zeroes, there would still be a possibility for it to happen.
math101. Now we clearly know you missed it.

[Raphangelo]

Well ugh, sorry... never knew that the word CAN, can be so misleading. You are so can=you are so good, you are so can=you are so bad. Damn, English is hard... If someone has been mislead that just shows enough for their education, nothing more.
And how is my first statement an opinion? It's a fact... you can start with 50 rage and need just 3 heroes to give the angel 10 rage=angel skill on first turn. 100% possible.
While I agree that usually things should be made clear when written, my comment couldn't be more clear than that. Can=to have the ability to do something. Just by reading the sentence, it should be obvious what's meant by it. I'm not using any hard to read/understand words, that are from some distant dialect.

And how are you helping someone if you repeat the same thing after him? O.o What you are doing is something like this: 2 students are doing their homework, 1 explains to the other - "this is how you do it" and the other student replies with "no, this is how you do it" by doing the exact same thing.

Ye, you read my posts and I did yours. Hence my amazement. I never really thought that someone your age could have such problems understanding something that simple.
All I did was try to stop you from repeating the same thing that's been said and ACCEPTED a page back. Yeah, maybe I did it in the wrong way, by making fun of your intellect.. but that just felt better.

We seem to have a case of paranoia, you see things that aren't there.
And there wouldn't have been a need for +10 replies if you could read simple English: can, is, possible... damn sorry, too many syllables, might be too early for you.


Vhunter, 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% is still a chance, or to make it more clear, a possibility.
I could add a million more zeroes, there would still be a possibility for it to happen.
math101. Now we clearly know you missed it.

soooooo you didn't say it. Thats all I needed to hear actually.
Were you implying at least I guess? Sorry mate, I'll look for a mind-reading app next time for forum-posting like yours.

well anyways, you are just being stubborn and not admitting it... and of course repeating yourself yet again.


Good that we are on the page though (well i am implying this time, just fyi ). I am glad.

Hopefully now you fully understand why multiple folks replied back to you. Not just me.

Have a good day. and.. have a visit at a local ESL class or adult learning centre or something. I think your educational expectation vs general norm are different. I can give you 1 thing though, you do clearly state in a full sentence structure. You just hide couple more sentences explaining your argument.

I just did a quick google for you for a start: http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Paragraph
http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/argument/
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Logical-Argument

[Painindaback]

"We seem to have a case of paranoia, you see things that aren't there"
I am not trying to defend anything. Have you seriously not understood that yet? We are all saying the same thing. It's just that you are trying to argue, that I am wrong.
And do you seriously think that I'll go on and write a correctly structured paragraph on a game forum? All that's required are correct words, nothing else. As far as argument go, what else can I say.. if pure facts aren't enough, nothing will be, for people like you.
And I did accept your view already, before you actually came to point it out...
Looks like we have an attention w***e.
But here, I'll indulge (do you know this word?) you. Oh mighty Raphangelo, I should have just accepted, what you advocated. I was in the wrong, to ever doubt your magnificent. Peace out.

[Raphangelo]

"We seem to have a case of paranoia, you see things that aren't there"
I am not trying to defend anything. Have you seriously not understood that yet? We are all saying the same thing. It's just that you are trying to argue, that I am wrong.
And do you seriously think that I'll go on and write a correctly structured paragraph on a game forum? All that's required are correct words, nothing else. As far as argument go, what else can I say.. if pure facts aren't enough, nothing will be, for people like you.
And I did accept your view already, before you actually came to point it out...
Looks like we have an attention w***e.
But here, I'll indulge (do you know this word?) you. Oh mighty Raphangelo, I should have just accepted, what you advocated. I was in the wrong, to ever doubt your magnificent. Peace out.

you forgot something.
"Oh mighty hunuot, ohkitsune, blahblah11, vhunter77, and Raphangelo, I should have just accepted, what you advocated. I was in the wrong, to ever doubt your magnificent. Peace out"

Sorry for being stubborn though (no sarcasm this line)

[Raphangelo]

Vhunter, 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% is still a chance, or to make it more clear, a possibility.
I could add a million more zeroes, there would still be a possibility for it to happen.
math101. Now we clearly know you missed it.

Oh for your future references for stats/math/etc (aka real-life stuff again)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance

we actually use that 5% thing often in medical/scientific research world.
Sorry that you may have 0.00000000000000001% chance that your cancer screening is false negative/positive. My industry failed you. We'll include that at the footnote in future instead of simply stating 'positive/negative' w/ supporting research evidence.

Would you like your doctor keep saying 'it is possible that you have cancer all over your body' every visit? It is true though. It is possible though. Cause of that 0.000000000000000000000001% you are claiming. But I won't say that, I don't wanna get sued legally. I don't think any judge would like me to say "it is possible though".

[Painindaback]

Oh for your future references for stats/math/etc (aka real-life stuff again)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance

we actually use that 5% thing often in medical/scientific research world.
Sorry that you may have 0.00000000000000001% chance that your cancer screening is false negative/positive. My industry failed you. We'll include that at the footnote in future instead of simply stating 'positive/negative' w/ supporting research evidence.

Would you like your doctor keep saying 'it is possible that you have cancer all over your body' every visit? It is true though. It is possible though. Cause of that 0.000000000000000000000001% you are claiming. But I won't say that, I don't wanna get sued legally. I don't think any judge would like me to say "it is possible though".

That by the way, was the random rambling I mentioned earlier. But you keep proving my point. I'd just call you attention w***e from now on.. suits you perfectly.