Just wondering ... about the bugs in the game.

[uxu4n]

Do not forget that Archer DS skill aplyes for PVE, not only PVP.
Becouse of it, Archers can pass 10-10 easaly, same br, other class, 9-10 maybe. Thats the diference. Over time, it amounts to a lot of res.
And pls dont say any1 who dont have rage build is a noob. If som1 plays diferent from u, or dont have a counter for what u r doing, it doesnt mean hes a noob. He has counter for something else.
As for my build, ges what it is, or hope to meet in CS.

Not gonna comment on things you are discussing with Tyler but...

Doesn't matter what build you have, you either do have LE/DM with a bunch of really fast and really hard hitting strikers (or some sort of IRB variant) or be a soloing zerker/hunter/ranger with a **** ton of dodge. Outside of these you are meat to be chopped and ant to be stepped on...so don't need to guess...

[MagusRynd]

everyone defending archers' DS is an archer himself. betcha they just dont want devs to notice all the fuss and getting it nerfed :P

it is OP, yea, no arguing on that. i play both classes and i already know how OP that damn DS is.

and some people are assuming that PVP is the only thing in this game. well, sorry to break it to you, theres PVE as well, which actually gives more rewards than PVP. so thats one more plus fer archers.

[uxu4n]

everyone defending archers' DS is an archer himself. betcha they just dont want devs to notice all the fuss and getting it nerfed :P

it is OP, yea, no arguing on that. i play both classes and i already know how OP that damn DS is.

and some people are assuming that PVP is the only thing in this game. well, sorry to break it to you, theres PVE as well, which actually gives more rewards than PVP. so thats one more plus fer archers.

Because u are quite low lv. BR or progress. Advanced dungeons there is rarely normal attacking, i would much rather get the banner (which is why for the class change options)...and as i have said, low level dungeons archers are OP...

And for you anything you can't deal with is pretty OP and should get nerfed ofc.

[MagusRynd]

one more archer spotted

[uxu4n]

one more archer spotted

Even though you are not a good player, i have to say you are good at arguing and making it seem like you know what you are talking about...

[MohTormentoR]

Let us return to subject pls.
As of today, i saw that Rings stun colision with DS skils and Avekening skils is fixed? Working ok today for me.
Thunderclap (Counterstrike) still bugy as hell (heroes that are Counterstriked atack their own party), and if Couterstike hits your Claws, reflect dmg goes to your own back row. As for LE bufs, i think they work fine now as well, as well as totems, but that have to be cheked, since i dont have all totems. Stacking those 2 have to be cheked as well, but so far LE + Bull totem works fine.

[MaximusOrange]

Archer dragon soul skill only procs when normal attacked. Idk where all that misinformation come from that amplifies itself. It is quite OP in lower levels. And will be super OP once damnation totem gets released. But for now it is what it is in top tourney fights. i havent seen mine proc for months.

The how come my archer's shield procs from buffs , angel attacks , and a bunch of random stuff that it should not proc from ? Please do explain that to me .

And to people that say that shield is not op and saying that who ever believes that is a noob , hes either an archer or just blind , or dose not want to admit it .

Have a great day.

[R23121670]

Dodge is obtainable by all = not OP

Shield is ONLY for Hunter = OP because of what its capable of

I mean, look at the other heros DS and its quite easy to see how much of an unfair advantage some are over others. My options, backrow rage on death or remove 10 rage for dodge/block. So yeah, I face IRB they gain 100+ rage and only lose 10 if I dodge or block their skill attack, meaning they lose 10 of nothing...awesome skill right?

Mages at least get revive which is nice, but its kind of a 1-time hope it works if your needing it to finish off the last bit of your opponent, and you only have that 1 chance for it to hit.

But archers get that chance every single round to get invincible shield, combine that with high dodge and its pretty much OP, only ones not saying so are people who have archers.

Anything capable by all in my eyes isnt OP, but to give someone an invincible shield and others all useless junk isnt fair. I wish archers were released when I had started and not when I had already invested money on a damn zerk so I could have OP archer as well. R2 always making damn OP archers.

[ohkitsune]

Dodge is obtainable by all = not OP

Shield is ONLY for Hunter = OP because of what its capable of

I mean, look at the other heros DS and its quite easy to see how much of an unfair advantage some are over others. My options, backrow rage on death or remove 10 rage for dodge/block. So yeah, I face IRB they gain 100+ rage and only lose 10 if I dodge or block their skill attack, meaning they lose 10 of nothing...awesome skill right?

Mages at least get revive which is nice, but its kind of a 1-time hope it works if your needing it to finish off the last bit of your opponent, and you only have that 1 chance for it to hit.

But archers get that chance every single round to get invincible shield, combine that with high dodge and its pretty much OP, only ones not saying so are people who have archers.

Anything capable by all in my eyes isnt OP, but to give someone an invincible shield and others all useless junk isnt fair. I wish archers were released when I had started and not when I had already invested money on a damn zerk so I could have OP archer as well. R2 always making damn OP archers.

i guess Zerker tornado blow wasnt OP pre awaken right ? it was the only skill being able to remove Aqua and still do DMG plus the partner skill which could be stacked ?

[palakacelo23]

love reading this

[anubiswarior]

I am suprised nobody hasn't noticed that when you are killed by reflect, you don't trigger revive armor.
This thing is funny because sometimes the back up hero don't work (I can search the link of one battle if you want a proof ).

[kaitsuna]

I just want to know what OP thing berserker has now that awakening has been released. I guess demoralize / rage drain, but it requires a very specific agility order to be useful. Warrior's roar might be nice in certain builds, but valiant banner fits better into the current strong striker, weaker main meta.

It's as it always is, though. Every class is OP except the one you're currently playing. c:

[ohkitsune]

I just want to know what OP thing berserker has now that awakening has been released. I guess demoralize / rage drain, but it requires a very specific agility order to be useful. Warrior's roar might be nice in certain builds, but valiant banner fits better into the current strong striker, weaker main meta.

It's as it always is, though. Every class is OP except the one you're currently playing. c:

like i did say , before awaken , ppl like to talk about unbalance when they see fit , meanwhile they keep silence .

[vhunter77]

everyone defending archers' DS is an archer himself. betcha they just dont want devs to notice all the fuss and getting it nerfed :P

it is OP, yea, no arguing on that. i play both classes and i already know how OP that damn DS is.

and some people are assuming that PVP is the only thing in this game. well, sorry to break it to you, theres PVE as well, which actually gives more rewards than PVP. so thats one more plus fer archers.

sorry I have to agree with Elisa , there is nothing OP about archer's DS until the new totem.

[uxu4n]

The how come my archer's shield procs from buffs , angel attacks , and a bunch of random stuff that it should not proc from ? Please do explain that to me .

And to people that say that shield is not op and saying that who ever believes that is a noob , hes either an archer or just blind , or dose not want to admit it .

Have a great day.

Yes. U keep believing that. And please do mention it to devs when you send in support tickets asking for nerf.