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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rofik.Miah View Post
    Um some of you are greedy, very greedy, the point in guild is to help members even if they don't have vouchers to pay. If they need feast then you should let them join. If you don't care and just want people to toast you I suggest that you don't do a feast or leave the guild and create you own. And I hope people know that you don't care about others and just want chest. Be nicer, it helps everyone out.
    Indeed.
    That is why I am happy with my guildmates with me they help guildmates to come in even without 100 vouchers.
    And it is good to help others.
    Last edited by adamusph; 02-25-2014, 03:22 AM.

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    • #17
      Thanks for your opinion. Please do not post profanities. If you are in doubt about what is proper to post and what not, please check the Forum Rules.

      Regards,

      Meditron
      Last edited by Meditron; 02-25-2014, 05:19 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dyopet View Post
        it doesnt really help everyone out, only the fastest clicker. and asking for fairness in the game is not being greedy. i just spent money just to be vip to be able to open Small feast for some of my guildmates, then i spent again 500 vouchers for hosting feast. what will the players joining a feast had to spend? nothing! now who is greedy?
        Toasting will even give them more chests. Actually, on my suggestion, i will be asking only for 100 vouchers from them for toasting me. the other 100vouchers is for the other player that joined the feast. what happens right now is when one of the joiners actually toasts the other joiner, he will be expecting to receive toast too from the player that he toasted.
        On the current system of Guild feast, conflict between a free-rider and the host can arise and also conflict between the two joiners. My suggestion above will resolve two conflicts, and i would like to emphasize again, it will give more temptation for cashers to host medium to large feasts. Because as of now, Medium and Large feast is just a dead part of the game.
        Your suggestion requires people to have Vouchers to join feasts. That would result in effectively locking people out of being able to join feasts. Which in turn would make it impossible for generous people to open feasts for their Guildmates and toast them without expecting to be toasted back, if said GuildMates would be out of Vouchers at that time.

        The way feasts currently work, the person opening the feast has total control over who can attend and who can not, simply using the "kick" button. It has been mentioned in here that communication - or non-communiction - is key. If you dont want certain people to join, or only want to feast with your friends: dont let everyone know. If you want to open a feast but expect toasts - let it be known in your Guild Chat.

        Why hardcoding a complicated System which will lead to more frustration and limitations for many players when the existing system gives you the fix(es) for everything you think needs to be fixed - without the limitation and lockout ?
        Last edited by Meditron; 02-25-2014, 05:41 AM.



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        • #19
          Good point.
          Communication is the key. But simply "kick" the player that i dont want to join my feast is not the best answer to the problem. We have players that have slow net, making them get beaten by others on clicking my feast. Communication also has a flaw and that is LYING, and i wont be able to kick that person once I hit the Host button and used up 1 attempt on Hosting a feast.

          But you made it possible on Team Arena for the room leader to put password and BR requirement. Here, no one can lie about their BR. and no one can enter without knowing the password.

          i have thought about having the same option on Guild Feast. Putting a password option will reduce the number of kicks, resolves the problem of lag for my guildmate who i intend to feast with but it wont resolve the LYING factor (lying about going to toast but didnt do it when the feast is already hosted)

          Now, how about having a requirement option (on Team Arena, room leader can set the minimum BR), let's say "Beer toast to the Host of the feast" as a requirement (I suggested Beer toast since it is the lowest expense), and when i unlock a feast, a player that tries to enter will get a pop-up saying "A beer toast to the Host is required. would you like to join?", (with the Join and Cancel buttons as options) and when he clicks Join, he will be transported inside the feast,automatically activates beer toast to host, deducting 100vouchers from him and receiving the respective rewards. If he wants to toast to the other player in the feast room, or give another toast to the host, that will be his choice. This way, number of kicks will be reduced, and communication flaw is avoided, no one is being denied to enter a feast since someone else can unlock a free feast. It could be a checkbox on the right side of the Unlock Feast button. How about that?
          Last edited by dyopet; 02-25-2014, 08:37 AM.

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          • #20
            In my opinion, this is an excellent Idea, nicely thought through. I will notify the appropriate person about this . Thanks for your input.



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            • #21
              Originally posted by FlufflePuff View Post
              The VIP restriction is in place due to players being able to create and spam alt accounts.

              I have an alt account that basically just sits around and already has accumulated around 1.6k vouchers without doing any cross servers.

              That's 500 to open a feast, and 200 for Two toasts + Two more from a 2nd alt account.

              Basically giving yourself a free

              4 toasts x 5 times + 5x participation chest

              That's 25 free chests per week, if they are dedicated, if not.... they can simply create more alts. The 7day log in bonus already gives SOOO many vouchers.



              Sadly, the VIP requirement will not be lifted.
              I have to disagree with you there. The only ones that might actually abuse that are either guildless people or low guilds. Top ranked guilds would not really be affected because we have no space to even accept players, let alone alts. Even then the chances that the player gets something decent is low, so why not benefit everyone instead of worrying that 1-2 guys might try that?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dyopet View Post
                finding two people is easy for smal feast. i suggested it to avoid conflicts among guild members, between VIPs and non-VIPs within a guild.
                my suggestion is also beneficial to R2 since i never seen or heard anyone ever hosted Medium and Large Feast. \
                Just because you haven't seen or heard of one doesn't mean they don't get created. I create a medium feast every day as do 2 other members in my guild. My suggestion to you is change guilds.

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                • #23
                  I did as promised. While your suggestion would make feasting more convenient for you and players who feel similar as you about the feasts, it is not benefitting the Game in total . It is not going to happen.



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                  • #24
                    Imperial stallion and etc. costs diamonds. that's what the game trying to say. just be thankful that you can hosts a feast with vouchers.

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                    • #25
                      if you have hard time with finding decent members who join your feast and toast or have some greedy members in guild who kicks if you do not just find different guild, in our guild with help of decent leader and other members we have made it pretty good environment for players who communicate and inform and host and nobody is complaining if you have members who just do not toast ever complain to guild higher up i think it is guild inner matter ...


                      and those who host get chest as well maybe they could be more rewarding for hoster to make them look more appealing for vips to host feast even if there no toasts
                      Last edited by spoks_Kid; 02-27-2014, 12:46 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Meditron View Post
                        I did as promised. While your suggestion would make feasting more convenient for you and players who feel similar as you about the feasts, it is not benefitting the Game in total . It is not going to happen.
                        Does not benefit game in total? Are you kiding me?
                        First of all, it make players advance faster. That means more competition, that means, more Dia, that means more money for you.
                        Second. Will not reduce Vip bying becouse it still has other BIG privilages. You know what they are.
                        Third. You will actualy do something nice for all, instead of making new big-dia-spending events. Im sure by now u can see people bother with those less and less every new event, and many are leaving. I mean, some servers are already dying, not even 2 months up time, hello? Wake up call.

                        This is a win-win situation for you, and you say "not benefitting the Game in total", it will make game "alive" for little longer more likely.

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                        • #27
                          I have a question, is it possible to invite people to a feast? Because when one certain guildmate (and it's only been happening with this one) opens up a feast I always get this little pop up thing, which when I click on it, then leads me to the normal guild feast page.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by chukulit04 View Post
                            Imperial stallion and etc. costs diamonds. that's what the game trying to say. just be thankful that you can hosts a feast with vouchers.
                            yeah, but imperial stallion is free (by loop quests) , it just need time, so why not giving small feast for lvl 50 and up, without vip requirement?
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