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  • #76
    I think the builds are fair. However, Mages have so many AOE moves, and they also get a rage decrease talent.. Why? They have built in there skills cantor... Why? ok ok ok im being a bit unfair there maybe but when you can use a move that hits ALL targets and it cost 16 rage thats a joke lol....

    We archers should beat mages, and we CAN, oh but only when they dont use rain, lightening then metoer lol

    I think an additional talent is needed for archers, to DECREASE rage and these overpowered talks will be over, as it will even the field a lot more Yes all characters get canter sometimes I know I know... But...... what I mean is if we dont get to have the true damage advantage over all classes then we should have a reduced rage move... just think knights have a rage stealing move lol

    So i save up for lunatic, and then before I can use it im stuck with a arrow shot haha lol
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    • #77
      Originally posted by allariammaih View Post
      Unkownx i agree i might be a noob.. but i hope u can read .. this discussion is about knights owning archers .. not mages.. and to answer ur absolute useless long post describing archer's skills as useless and mage skills as superior.. No mage below lvl 55 (i am 52) has so far been able to beat me.. be it a cashier mage or no cashier .. some times knights are able to beat me when i skilled them in wrong order .. but i might be exception than rule.. i am not talking about uber strong cashier people.. and i dont have any intention of competing with them.. I am talking about normal ppl like me and i am more than satisfied that i am putting up a decent fight.. I will take lvl 60 when it comes.. no point in twisting arms.. about it and getting sleepless anxious nights.. i have enuff worried on my head for that in real life :P..
      I meant this game for fun and not for serious competition.. and i do that i real life .. Hope u get the message..
      glad u u beat the top people in real life, kudos to you.

      btw I am taking up karate too to beat up archers in real life.
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      • #78
        well till lvl 55 archer are basically op for all classes so if u play a knight u need to have one that have a lot bigger br to win archers, if u ask me now is ok knight kill archer, mage kill knight and archer kill mage. don't wanna mention archers wb domination. instead of whine get 12k pdef so knight wont smack your ***.
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        • #79
          Originally Posted by allariammaih
          Unkownx i agree i might be a noob.. but i hope u can read .. this discussion is about knights owning archers .. not mages.. and to answer ur absolute useless long post describing archer's skills as useless and mage skills as superior.. No mage below lvl 55 (i am 52) has so far been able to beat me.. be it a cashier mage or no cashier .. some times knights are able to beat me when i skilled them in wrong order .. but i might be exception than rule.. i am not talking about uber strong cashier people.. and i dont have any intention of competing with them.. I am talking about normal ppl like me and i am more than satisfied that i am putting up a decent fight.. I will take lvl 60 when it comes.. no point in twisting arms.. about it and getting sleepless anxious nights.. i have enuff worried on my head for that in real life :P..
          I meant this game for fun and not for serious competition.. and i do that i real life .. Hope u get the message..
          glad u u beat the top people in real life, kudos to you.

          btw I am taking up karate too to beat up archers in real life.

          lol when i meant that it doesnt mean literally ( i know u r pulling my leg )..

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          • #80
            Monstaa .. Knight doesnt need huge br against archers .. they might need it against mages

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            • #81
              Originally posted by R23275552 View Post
              beat a higher archer with higher BR and Level without any pot or buff. So knight can beat archer. But different story with mage, even a lower BR and level mage, knight have a hard time dealing with them.
              Doesn't tell me anything if the player is offline when you attack them. The difference between online and offline is insane.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Superiorman View Post
                I think the builds are fair. However, Mages have so many AOE moves, and they also get a rage decrease talent.. Why? They have built in there skills cantor... Why? ok ok ok im being a bit unfair there maybe but when you can use a move that hits ALL targets and it cost 16 rage thats a joke lol....

                We archers should beat mages, and we CAN, oh but only when they dont use rain, lightening then metoer lol

                I think an additional talent is needed for archers, to DECREASE rage and these overpowered talks will be over, as it will even the field a lot more Yes all characters get canter sometimes I know I know... But...... what I mean is if we dont get to have the true damage advantage over all classes then we should have a reduced rage move... just think knights have a rage stealing move lol

                So i save up for lunatic, and then before I can use it im stuck with a arrow shot haha lol
                Archers shouldn't complain about mages like this. Archers have a lot more health than a mage, and can get multiple turns in a row.

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                • #83
                  knights trashing archers? are u kidding? How dare u even suggest there is ne thing remotely unfair regarding knights. Knights cant even use will destroyer ne more bc of wb. Changing to a crit set up is nearly essential to even begin to keep up in wb. I am a knight that uses will destroyer lvl 7, my wife has 2k less patk as an archer with lvl 5 crit and determ astrals. Before df started working she did more dmg than me now that it works her dmg is pretty much double. Should i even bring up the fact that necro and sky trail bosses are set up for the highest dps toons to get further. Well since i just did i will elaborate saying that the bosses buff if u dont kill them fast enuff. OH im sorrry valued player, though we are aware that def and hp is where your classes strength lies, we dont care we only want the archers of yer same br to beat this lvl. Knights need an update bout as much an archer needs to shut up the complaints about getting beat by a knight pvp.

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                  • #84
                    foul necromancy !

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                    • #85
                      this whole topic makes me rofl.

                      1. There are 3 Classes: Warrior, Mage and Archer
                      2. Each one is strong to one class and weak to another

                      SOOOOOOO just incase some of you guys didnt know this or are too stupid to figure it out.....KNIGHTS ARE THE ANTI-ARCHER CLASS!!! they got very high pdef which is bad knews for archer cuzzz DURRRRRR!!! they are patk and they have block which nullifies a considerable amount of their damage from crits. But every sense slyphs came out, especially gaia, class doesnt seem to matter as much now.

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                      • #86
                        Archers problem is defense..or lack of. Knight has high pdef, mage has high mdef...archer has.......................umm crit based damage that only counts if you....crit. So archers advantage is crit bonus damage which is a 'chance' advantage, unlike knight and mage whos advantage is 100% guaranteed...not to mention knight and mage can go crit build, as a side note... I have seen mage and knights crit more than archers....go figure.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Pickapath View Post
                          Archers problem is defense..or lack of. Knight has high pdef, mage has high mdef...archer has.......................umm crit based damage that only counts if you....crit. So archers advantage is crit bonus damage which is a 'chance' advantage, unlike knight and mage whos advantage is 100% guaranteed...not to mention knight and mage can go crit build, as a side note... I have seen mage and knights crit more than archers....go figure.

                          i have 5k crit and get out critted by a mage in my guild with 3k crit

                          it gets annoying at times
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by R26737621 View Post
                            this whole topic makes me rofl.

                            1. There are 3 Classes: Warrior, Mage and Archer
                            2. Each one is strong to one class and weak to another

                            SOOOOOOO just incase some of you guys didnt know this or are too stupid to figure it out.....KNIGHTS ARE THE ANTI-ARCHER CLASS!!! they got very high pdef which is bad knews for archer cuzzz DURRRRRR!!! they are patk and they have block which nullifies a considerable amount of their damage from crits. But every sense slyphs came out, especially gaia, class doesnt seem to matter as much now.


                            some knights are anti every other class ... they are just too op

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by savageness View Post
                              some knights are anti every other class ... they are just too op

                              because of that damn block
                              block sylph delphic 17k
                              that hurts
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                              • #90
                                Guys guys... ask yourself why are we called knights/tanks. About this thread what can i say... archers do triple gold on wb now, they can slow you in pvp, they can debuff you and take your troops down in no time and with this gaia sylph they could hit you for unreal damage. Don't know why are you complaining from knights, can you tell me please? A knight with the right build (astrals/talents/tactic) is supposed to be strong.
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