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world boss idea to make it more fair for knights and mages

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  • #16
    Mm... just no-one tried. If they are sure they can't best the archers, some people are too lazy to try.
    Try playing a mage with crit and determination astral. You'll reach top 10 in WB. Don't know for knight, but it should be the same.
    Archers have advantages. But not in a way that a non-archer can't do 1/3 of the damage of an archer.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by e314159 View Post
      But not in a way that a non-archer can't do 1/3 of the damage of an archer.
      Couldn't say it better myself. If the mages and knights shift their astrals, gems, skills, and gear around for wb, they are totally capable of doing 1/3 the damage that an archer with similar br would do.

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      • #18
        It has been ingrained into players' head that archers go crit and determination and knights/mages go will destroyer. Even with a high lvl WD (mine was lvl 7 before I converted over) I was barely top 20 and I was doing a lot of damage. With my crit build I'm doing about 1.5 times more with a crit than I was with my WD lvl 7. I crit with my slasher and do about 30k, my ulti slasher is almost 50k and my DD is almost 100k...before the inspiration bonus. That's with just a voucher bonus...no balens. So don't tell me a knight can't be top 10 in WB cause we can. Most are set in their ways and aren't going to change.

        The only advantage an archer has over a knight in WB is a faster animation speed which means more rounds overall per WB. Our crits will do more damage overall because of our individual skill's damage. So if we crit and can crit for more damage than an archer...why don't we see more knights in WB? They don't want to change is why...
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Barbarossa View Post
          It has been ingrained into players' head that archers go crit and determination and knights/mages go will destroyer. Even with a high lvl WD (mine was lvl 7 before I converted over) I was barely top 20 and I was doing a lot of damage. With my crit build I'm doing about 1.5 times more with a crit than I was with my WD lvl 7. I crit with my slasher and do about 30k, my ulti slasher is almost 50k and my DD is almost 100k...before the inspiration bonus. That's with just a voucher bonus...no balens. So don't tell me a knight can't be top 10 in WB cause we can. Most are set in their ways and aren't going to change.

          The only advantage an archer has over a knight in WB is a faster animation speed which means more rounds overall per WB. Our crits will do more damage overall because of our individual skill's damage. So if we crit and can crit for more damage than an archer...why don't we see more knights in WB? They don't want to change is why...
          thank you barbarossa (i will fight you today in bg ah ah lol), i am killing myself to explain that if a knight use the same astral as an archer he does damage near to the archer even higher.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by R28388225 View Post
            thank you barbarossa (i will fight you today in bg ah ah lol), i am killing myself to explain that if a knight use the same astral as an archer he does damage near to the archer even higher.
            Hahaha what was your IGN in that BG? Hope I didn't hit you...I just carted today :P

            Yea just look at the individual skills and you'll see the damage for a knight is higher overall than an archer and if they have the same determination lvl and similar patk the knight will trump the archer in damage. Combine that with 2 of our talents and we can get some insane damage going on. That does help compensate for our slower animation speed than the archer/mage.
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            • #21
              People so greedy a55. Mages already own PVP and now they want WB too Then better make a game for only Mages then sheezs. Archers are the weakest class in PVP compare to the others .

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              • #22
                Originally posted by R28901959 View Post
                People so greedy a55. Mages already own PVP and now they want WB too Then better make a game for only Mages then sheezs. Archers are the weakest class in PVP compare to the others .
                My god, are you kidding me man? Archers can be argued to be OP, because of attack animation, etc.
                And Mages don't dominate, most WB, there's only one Mage in Top 10 in my server.
                I do like the original person's idea, having the WB split class-based.
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                • #23
                  arc not always win...
                  me archer too. but always lost when meet mage
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Barbarossa View Post
                    It has been ingrained into players' head that archers go crit and determination and knights/mages go will destroyer. Even with a high lvl WD (mine was lvl 7 before I converted over) I was barely top 20 and I was doing a lot of damage. With my crit build I'm doing about 1.5 times more with a crit than I was with my WD lvl 7. I crit with my slasher and do about 30k, my ulti slasher is almost 50k and my DD is almost 100k...before the inspiration bonus. That's with just a voucher bonus...no balens. So don't tell me a knight can't be top 10 in WB cause we can. Most are set in their ways and aren't going to change.

                    The only advantage an archer has over a knight in WB is a faster animation speed which means more rounds overall per WB. Our crits will do more damage overall because of our individual skill's damage. So if we crit and can crit for more damage than an archer...why don't we see more knights in WB? They don't want to change is why...
                    At last, someone talking common sense about the WB

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                    • #25
                      To all these ppl that are saying they can beat archers lies lies lies if you have same patk or matk as the archer has patk you will lose everytime i have 20k matk and archers with less patk beat me 7road know about it and in version 1.6 it is moved to a class wb so dont talk **** you can keep up with archers they are a dps class amd its a dps event also for all the ppl saying archers are weakest in pvp well you must be useless at using an archer maybe you should practice more cause i have fought some archers that very well know what they are doing all these archers that lose is cause they havnt a clue how to build there toon and use the skills they are given and if you are getting beat by mages its your own fault you have great skills to counter a mage i could name 1 i hate myself but i will leave that for yous idiots to figure out for yourselfs
                      Last edited by dking87; 04-18-2013, 03:30 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Barbarossa View Post
                        Hahaha what was your IGN in that BG? Hope I didn't hit you...I just carted today :P

                        Yea just look at the individual skills and you'll see the damage for a knight is higher overall than an archer and if they have the same determination lvl and similar patk the knight will trump the archer in damage. Combine that with 2 of our talents and we can get some insane damage going on. That does help compensate for our slower animation speed than the archer/mage.
                        ah ah yes you do but its the bg principle. It was yesterday name : Lullabys

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                        • #27
                          if its so easy to get a knight to be in top 10 why is it in several of the oldest servers on here none of them do it. its always dominated by archers. i am talking about nothing more then world boss which gives them more gold and daru then anyone else and i have seen plenty of knights attempt to have a knight that criticals they have failed miserably and couldnt beat anyone there own level

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                          • #28
                            Because leveling a determination and a sniper edge astral cost already more than only a Will destroyer one, so leveling all 3 (because you need the Wd for everything else than WB) cost a lot.
                            So most mages/knights prefer being powerfull in Duel/BG/Arena/Dungeon... at the cost of earning less than archers in WB.
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                            • #29
                              ...and I bet if I could get more gold from wb, I could afford to level spare astrals to use so that I could get more gold from wb...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by R28901959 View Post
                                People so greedy a55. Mages already own PVP and now they want WB too Then better make a game for only Mages then sheezs. Archers are the weakest class in PVP compare to the others .
                                LOL what? This is the funniest thing I have ever encountered. Archers are weakest, you probably have a very bad build. Mages are the favorite target of archers because of mage's low pdef and archer's high patk and crit. Archers on the other hand has a decent mdef, I even see some archers having higher mdef than their pdef. Also, if you use your bloodthirsty combined with your high patk, you will heal like the mage and deal good damage on the mage or its troop at the same time (on bg and solo arena). Build your stat properly first before saying you always lose to your "favorite" target. I really ROFL to this.

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