Has anyone achieved Promethean Wings

[diablu]

haha go to kabam server of cs ...... u ll see all classses of op players lol..... lots of promethean wings too :P

[PureLily]

Knights have an invincibility, but in doing so rogues can stealth. If tails doesn't stealth and wait for invincibility to go away, the knight will win. Otherwise, the rogue will win. You hold no chance against the rogue. One devoid can hit well in the millions. and there are other skills too.

[Aionyx]

Knights have an invincibility, but in doing so rogues can stealth. If tails doesn't stealth and wait for invincibility to go away, the knight will win. Otherwise, the rogue will win. You hold no chance against the rogue. One devoid can hit well in the millions. and there are other skills too.

it'd would be a nice fight for me now but if i was maxxed as he is Knight would win always,cuz ppl seem to think just cuz OP ppl hit 3-5 million on them they'd hit another OP for that much and thats just not the case lol,yes devoid might,but also bear in mind deviod has a likeliness of hitting,more likely to miss,also knight has debuff,and plx don't think we slow swingers lol,Knights these days can DPS just as good as rogue and mage,knight has a big advantage in the long fight they hit like a ton of bricks and tank,same can't be said for the rogue,if a rogue can't win in 5-10 secs its prolly dead vs a Knight

[Insanity]

it'd would be a nice fight for me now but if i was maxxed as he is Knight would win always,cuz ppl seem to think just cuz OP ppl hit 3-5 million on them they'd hit another OP for that much and thats just not the case lol,yes devoid might,but also bear in mind deviod has a likeliness of hitting,more likely to miss,also knight has debuff,and plx don't think we slow swingers lol,Knights these days can DPS just as good as rogue and mage,knight has a big advantage in the long fight they hit like a ton of bricks and tank,same can't be said for the rogue,if a rogue can't win in 5-10 secs its prolly dead vs a Knight

so not true knights aren't strong rogues can tank just as well as knights if not better.

Tails has about 60% incoming pdef and mdef knights get around 15% more.
but rogues get way more dodge and hit rate. Throw in they get way more attack speed


also, evilknitz only has 70% hit rate and they would have a lower chance to win than a knight. if tails uses vagabonds they literately have a 10% chance to hit him. after that its basically slayers sprint and they are dead.

41shots has 90% hit rate so he would have a higher chance.

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most of the ppl saying a kight can win probably didn't view him o.o
unbuffed without wing buff and no bol ... he has 130% dodge with bol

If he gets lvl 8 sperion gem combo ( idk if he has it ) + vagabonds thats 220% dodge meaning the knight will basically always miss even if they can debuff wont it be better to save that for when his wings activate? lol.

with max beast soul he has 5% hp leech, being able to tank the knight if they aren't 1 hit.

[Aionyx]

so not true knights aren't strong rogues can tank just as well as knights if not better.

Tails has about 60% incoming pdef and mdef knights get around 15% more.
but rogues get way more dodge and hit rate. Throw in they get way more attack speed


also, evilknitz only has 70% hit rate and they would have a lower chance to win than a knight. if tails uses vagabonds they literately have a 10% chance to hit him. after that its basically slayers sprint and they are dead.

41shots has 90% hit rate so he would have a higher chance.

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most of the ppl saying a kight can win probably didn't view him o.o
unbuffed without wing buff and no bol ... he has 130% dodge with bol

If he gets lvl 8 sperion gem combo ( idk if he has it ) + vagabonds thats 220% dodge meaning the knight will basically always miss even if they can debuff wont it be better to save that for when his wings activate? lol.

with max beast soul he has 5% hp leech, being able to tank the knight if they aren't 1 hit.

ur forgetting something lol he's maxxed out,find a Knight that way then compare... debuff is for vegabounds... being thats typically the ONLY way most rogues are ballsy enough to jump a knight... and FYI a KNIGHT is ALOT stronger than a rogue physically and defensivelly... u Knight like him would have alot more patk,alot more def and oh ye alot more HPs... hit rating i assume over or near 100% theirself its not his stats that would concern a knight on his lvl its the knights stats he should be concerned with... he would have to have and KEEP 220% dodge to even stand a chance vs a Knight his size i don't think it'd be too radical to say a maxxed knight could kill him in about 2-4 hits tops, if knights bloodlust he has the advantage of stopping the stealth rogues surprise atk,if he angelic he can hit it stand toe to toe with him for 7 secs and waste him w/o not much more than a scratch i'd guess it'd be interesting,but a Knight being 1 shot is a JOKE especially a maxxed out knight like him... and u wanna tell me a knight would lose lol,ye he better use stealth and sprint to turn tail and run

[Aionyx]

Oh and lets recap cuz i went to S32 where GaLon a OP priest is,and surprise surprise even he dies by knights who have not even 200k patk... oh and even tho he has promes and some 500-600kmatk he can't even 1 hit them and iirc they don't even have 100k mdef so think on that a bit

[Insanity]

ur forgetting something lol he's maxxed out,find a Knight that way then compare... debuff is for vegabounds... being thats typically the ONLY way most rogues are ballsy enough to jump a knight... and FYI a KNIGHT is ALOT stronger than a rogue physically and defensivelly... u Knight like him would have alot more patk,alot more def and oh ye alot more HPs... hit rating i assume over or near 100% theirself its not his stats that would concern a knight on his lvl its the knights stats he should be concerned with... he would have to have and KEEP 220% dodge to even stand a chance vs a Knight his size i don't think it'd be too radical to say a maxxed knight could kill him in about 2-4 hits tops, if knights bloodlust he has the advantage of stopping the stealth rogues surprise atk,if he angelic he can hit it stand toe to toe with him for 7 secs and waste him w/o not much more than a scratch i'd guess it'd be interesting,but a Knight being 1 shot is a JOKE especially a maxxed out knight like him... and u wanna tell me a knight would lose lol,ye he better use stealth and sprint to turn tail and run

speaking from experiance knights are insanely weak, I beat a knight with a 700 soul they were lvl 90 eido with slayers and invincibility. I was level 58 eido had same frag and I won very easily. I've seen knights on the chinese server weaker than tails and they had very high wings.... go check out http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....Saga-Reloaded)

But mostly http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....t=rogue+unfair

actually as he said rouges have lifesteal so fighting a knight it will be GG for the knight he/she will get *****

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....i had it coming , all rogue players came here for a show off comment .

Rogues are that type of class that is hard to land a hit on , but when you do , you kill them . now , its both hard to land a hit on , and to kill them .

That is why the game got unbalanced . cuz they have dodge , hit rate , defense (from tenets), LIFESTEAL , and a huge advantage in pve which helps them improve a lot faster .

In 1 word , they got everything .

Priests have heal and curses . low def , low hp , low hit rate.
Rangers have traps (if you get to trap your oppponent) and high hit rate , but their def is also low
Knight have def and damage reduction , but they hit slow and they have low hit rate.
Mages got huge nuke power , moderate attack speed , moderate hit rate , but really low def .

and ROGUES ... they now have attack power , attack speed , high hit rate , high dodge , lifesteal , and now they also got high defense and hp ( that comes with the tenets and zodiac) . they can get EVERYTHING

If a knight and a rogue would be maxed from any point of view : soul , tenets , wings , handbook , zodiac, etc , the knight wouldn't stand a chance . cuz rogues have everything a knight can never get because of how the geniuses of r2 conceived the game .

One other unbalance, since half the passives from frag and sperion and the new heraldry system proc upon attacking, rogues have double chance of proccing the skill, giving them a massive advantage

Just quoting now.

Basically if the knight doesn't get fight on they can't uncloak the rogue expecially if they don't know they're there. But if they do get it the rogue could just sprint vaga recloak and stun. The knight having no invincibility will die.

[Aionyx]

yawn ur gibberish quotes are OLD garbage,things changed,and FYI if the knight uncloaks the rogue then he has capabiltys of dragging since he obviously has the hit% to uncloak,that being said MOST rogues go in for the atk to get uncloaked and react like deers in headlights... if they do manage to have time to think then odds are its too late,cuz then the Knight has several atks such as crater smash/drag/stun/even charge the 130 version... anywho still bro ur misguidedness is pure garbage u lack full understanding of a knights capabilities u have no knight to compare to but i suppose myself and i'm not even cashed as much as him but i think i would kill him,least i'd try and have the capabilties and potential to do so as i am now god forbid i was cashed as much as him,it'd be over in a heartbeat no questions asked end of it,i've fought rogues they are true fast true dodgy but weak atks and soft like cotten candy...

[Aionyx]

http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....ppy-valentines

since u bringing up posts that looks rather pathetic huh

[Insanity]

Lol not much has changed, and honestly when I fight knights way stronger than me, I win because of stun. You haven't fought any smart rogues or you must be a casher.

its obvious he was afk theres noway in hell 90% of that server could kill him in a legit fight lol :P i doubt i could even kill him even with angelic lol

i want a video :P prove u kill him fighting back and lets see how many it takes,its just unbelievable them 2 weak toons could kill him w/o 1-5hrs afk lololol

Nice post exactly what I was about to say before I went to second page to see you saying the same thing.

Also, when I'm uncloaked I instantly vagabonds so the drag would probably miss.

And most knights never know I'm there, and if they do I just wait until they use their big aoe and thrn rush in.

What has changed since back then?

And I'm talking also about rogues in general not necessarally a max char knight vs rogue.
And if a rogue and knight fight....

Same set
Same soul
Same level

At mortal the rogue is destroyed
At scion the rogue gets quick death so easilly wins.
At eidolon the rogue could use devoid which crits really high. Rogue wins.

[Aionyx]

ye that was valentines um lets see b4 i had gen 7 pixie,ulti divine +5 wings and oh ye aux x fused in my aug x +14 lot changed since then and ur not a smart rogue,if u was and u seen a knight like me u'd tuck tail and run if u was smart u'd know just how weak u really are, as i know how soft rogues are,why u think they have stealth and speed and sprint think b4 u comment... and yes alot has changed,knights can get what rogues have but rogue can't get what knight has dodge we don't care for... even tho i can get 85% and prolly 75% hit% or more... um sry u needa learn how hit% to dodge % ratio is b4 u comment,he'd need 175%+ CONSTANT to dodge me... and thats just me now if i was cashed as much as him... noway,i fought strong rogues b4 i was OP... they hit alot of low dmg but died in 1 shot... HotRod kills GaLon says how powerful a knight is even as the underdawg.... so wisen up dude learn something b4 u just look and talk according to u he can't be touched but according to pics i saw weak rangers KILLED him so thats just pitiful imo,i'd hate to have a pic like that posted of my knight dieing to weak ppl....yall assume too much yall must think since he 1 shots or w/e on weak ppl somehow u think he'd do the same to me or a knight cashed as much as him.... keep dreaming

[Insanity]

Rogues... soft?? You obviously are fighting rogues that aren't cashing as much as you are. Your acting extremly arrogant and you don't know what your talking about. I'm saying what changed since then to make knights have a chance against them. What function benefit knights more than they benefit rogues. Rogues aren't soft 75% hit rate isn't good when rogues can get 130% dodge, they would have 50% dodge and they would tank you with leech while waiting for you to remove their wing buff. Then they could easilly use vagabonds for 8 sec immortality.

You need to learn about the rogue lvl 130 skill aswell as sperion gem combo. Also about how high rogues can truely crit.

Tails has 800k patk if he uses devoid he would hit 2400k ( 300% ) then if he has say 500% crit damage...

I'm saying knight vs rogue with both of them having maxed of all functions.

Also how could you say I'm weak if you probably don't even know me...

[Aionyx]

crits ok? on the deviod? i recall rogues using devoid to kill Purge and EB bosses and failing alot b4 it worked,sounds like a gamble to me,oh and isn't that the skill the requires low hps? dicey move... anyways what kinda crit we talking here? lets compare this to my rage,which hmm takes 5 million of ur run of the mill non cashers and um 700k off 2nd best casher knight in server hmm thats a bigggg difference? perhaps cuz he's a knight? perhaps cuz he's OP? so how much damage are we talking here? what i'm tryna get u to see if everything was cashed max the same only difference was one knight and other rogue,how do u think he'd 1 hit the knight? what i see happening is very different,cuz i for one realize the realistics that theres no 1 hitting gonna be happening,and ofc the knight will hit harder,defend better,sry its always been that way,whats it say about rogue? if u can't kill ur target in the time he's stunned then ur prolly gonna be dead? cuz they are weak and squishy,thats why they have the stealth/stun cuz they CAN"T win a fair fight duh lol even u urself said it,its been established,even then a OP rogue would die to a weaker ranger or knight even i've seen that,and now u change ur original statements and basically say if eido rogue hits devoid on knight it'd win... what happened to ur sureness that knight would always lose?

[Aionyx]

Rogues... soft?? You obviously are fighting rogues that aren't cashing as much as you are. Your acting extremly arrogant and you don't know what your talking about. I'm saying what changed since then to make knights have a chance against them. What function benefit knights more than they benefit rogues. Rogues aren't soft 75% hit rate isn't good when rogues can get 130% dodge, they would have 50% dodge and they would tank you with leech while waiting for you to remove their wing buff. Then they could easilly use vagabonds for 8 sec immortality.

You need to learn about the rogue lvl 130 skill aswell as sperion gem combo. Also about how high rogues can truely crit.

Tails has 800k patk if he uses devoid he would hit 2400k ( 300% ) then if he has say 500% crit damage...

I'm saying knight vs rogue with both of them having maxed of all functions.

Also how could you say I'm weak if you probably don't even know me...

then do enlighten me on who u are,i see nothing impressive on S63 alot of rogues there look a lil cashy not many knights in ranks welll knights that cashed any... maybe 1 and they ain't amazing so u talking about killing them knights don't impress me much... i know far more than u,u think knights a joke lol,i gave u examples of underdawg knights killing OP cashers with a fraction of their stats... go look at GaLon then look at hotrod whom he can't even 1 hit... but somehow u think Tails would 1 hit a maxxed out knight... noone even knows the stats of a maxxed out knight... as far as i seen and heard i'm the highest stated knight and i don't even have promes/div soul/chi/3k soul/or heraldry complete u gotta be kidding me kid and i still think i could take that rogue,if i was maxxed this would be a joke garbage thread....

[Insanity]

Rage explosion? In most fights its not legal to use that lol. At least on S14 S35 S55 and S33 it wasn't allowed. Of cource he wouldn't one hit the knight I see that, I'm saying he would one hit 99% of the people on his server. The knight will hit harder but their dps would be way lower. Sure they could defend if they have invincibility but if they do then the rogue will probably get the double stun in.

Now rogues can and will tank max char vs max char. If the rogue hits 6 times a second think of all that leech.
Aswell as all the endurance they will have from heraldy and tenets... the rogue would tank the same if not better than the knight. 60% incoming sure the knight has 15% more incoming but they will have around the same pdef. I'm not saying it would be higher but it would be about 100k off?

So now your saying cloak and stunning in a fight isn't fair? On my server that's the excuses they most gave if they lost to me or any other rogue then they said " rematch no cloak " then the rogue would say something like " ok you can't heal- priest or trap - ranger or kite - mage or ranger or use your invincibility - knight.

If I did change anything its probably a mistake its 12:15 am and I'm not on a computer, having to type all this up on a touchpad.

I'm still sure the knight would always lose, the devoid was to re establish my claim that tails can one hit probably everyone with lunar blade or devod.

Edit, galons a priest... the support class.
After quitting a long time ago I logged onto a old server before proceeding to fight..

A lvl 120 priest full slayers lvl 8 scion buffed with 4000+ intellect ( tenets ) and a 600+ soul and ult ngel lord.
I was level 50 eido rogue green savage with fire wings and a 450 soul. No tenets/beast soul exc.

I then proceeded to take the priest to 30% of their hp before dieing...
And in a level balanced area I could kill them in 3 seconds....

Gonna stop posting after this if you wanna discuss this pm me its gonna flood this topic.

Edit2 pm me a pic of ur stats I've seen a lot of op end game knights