Avernal Realm needs to change

[iyasn]

if u hate losing so much just make a rogue alt and fix em up with some nice gear gems wings and frag, send him in with bol and you can own the baby kids realm easily. many people have done it, and its a lot easier than crying on forum and sending tickets to get a generic response.

I can see you are scared that when this is fixed you wont even be on the Avernal rankings tough luck.

Ignore PrinceKuja an keep posting people.

[CloudySage]

The ones trolling (PrinceKuja) Are the ones who like winning avernal by lottery and know that if perf frag is ever fixed they won't even be in top 20.And they are talking complete nonsense.But he IS right,we DO have a level 50 mortal rogue alt that ranks high in avernal just cuz of perfect frag,i dont let him get first place but still,hes beating nonrogue people that can 1shot him anytime anywhere.Keep supporting people,we need more supporters to post here so the mods will pass this on to the GMs and this will finally be fixed.

[PrinceKuja]

LOL ill still do pretty damn good in there with broken seal BOL and level 8 buffs. with or without frag skill doesnt matter to me, i just think its more fun with the passives.
but honestly, saying frag passives should be disabled would be like saying (before perfect frag was released) that frost should be disallowed in there because people with earthen frag below V dont have it and its unfair blah blah blah. the response would be work harder and upgrade ur stuff... same thing for this, upgrade your frag and youll do more dmg. with or without the passives the rogues will still eat u alive.

[TheRaspberry]

Prince, no that's wrong. All HP drains are already (!) disabled in AR. Why should it be different with the perfect frag passive skills?

[ShadowGammaDraco]

LOL ill still do pretty damn good in there with broken seal BOL and level 8 buffs. with or without frag skill doesnt matter to me, i just think its more fun with the passives.
but honestly, saying frag passives should be disabled would be like saying (before perfect frag was released) that frost should be disallowed in there because people with earthen frag below V dont have it and its unfair blah blah blah. the response would be work harder and upgrade ur stuff... same thing for this, upgrade your frag and youll do more dmg. with or without the passives the rogues will still eat u alive.

Its a near cut and paste situation of when Tamalan skills were released and that was considered a bug due to the similar scores people achieved which did ruin the event by using a item for other then its intended purpose.
firelords HP attack is capped. frost isn't that bad, however there has obviously been a lot of grief over that skill as well in events like seng.
so if the blood skills are disabled or capped in that event, would be nice to see frost an such disabled in seng as well either same time or sometime after

[PrinceKuja]

well i think they should leave this event as it is, and make a brand spankin new one, something like a 1 vs 1 tournament or something. (more rewards for us) :P

[CloudySage]

LOL ill still do pretty damn good in there with broken seal BOL and level 8 buffs. with or without frag skill doesnt matter to me, i just think its more fun with the passives.
but honestly, saying frag passives should be disabled would be like saying (before perfect frag was released) that frost should be disallowed in there because people with earthen frag below V dont have it and its unfair blah blah blah. the response would be work harder and upgrade ur stuff... same thing for this, upgrade your frag and youll do more dmg. with or without the passives the rogues will still eat u alive.

Stop trolling,your comparing ants to elephants now.Nobody cares about frost,one because earthen V is very easy to get,and two because it doesn't do that much,perfect frag does 70 million damage in one hit,you can't compare these two things like they're even...

[JPwayne82444]

LOL ill still do pretty damn good in there with broken seal BOL and level 8 buffs. with or without frag skill doesnt matter to me, i just think its more fun with the passives.
but honestly, saying frag passives should be disabled would be like saying (before perfect frag was released) that frost should be disallowed in there because people with earthen frag below V dont have it and its unfair blah blah blah. the response would be work harder and upgrade ur stuff... same thing for this, upgrade your frag and youll do more dmg. with or without the passives the rogues will still eat u alive.

No one complained about frost because it was based on your own attack, and as such didn't give a huge advantage. Perfect frag on the other hand is based on enemy HP and as such utterly breaks AR, to the point where if you don't have perfect frag even if you are in top 10 you won't have any red on that bar behind your damage if someone in AR does have one. I think anyone could agree that difference is pretty big. Another reason people complain about perfect frag is similar skills were disabled in AR in the past specifically because they led to things like this. The previous disabling of bloodbreaking kill and firelords skill shows that AR wasn't meant to be a lottery based on who could get % damage attacks to proc the most.

[Helldemon83]

There is also the fact that Frost has a balanced proc % across all the classes whereas the blood skills are not and are unbalanced and op for some classes.

[Piotyr]

Only people who would go against change to avernal would be rogues, there will be no other characters that would go against the change.

I agree that this has to change, this has been going on for a while. If you really think the logic, one shouldn't even provide reason why this should change. It is so simple and a fact , rogue has double attack, which means the bloodcry will trigger twice as fast than any other class, a simple solution for now is to cut 50 % of the rogue's bloodcry trigger rate or just make the boss immune to passive skills like these or any future passive skills.

[CloudySage]

Only people who would go against change to avernal would be rogues, there will be no other characters that would go against the change.

I agree that this has to change, this has been going on for a while. If you really think the logic, one shouldn't even provide reason why this should change. It is so simple and a fact , rogue has double attack, which means the bloodcry will trigger twice as fast than any other class, a simple solution for now is to cut 50 % of the rogue's bloodcry trigger rate or just make the boss immune to passive skills like these or any future passive skills.

I'm a rogue,and i would do a lot for this to change.

About frost : Frost like someone said IS BASED ON YOUR OWN ATTACK which makes it fair.End of story.

The solution of cutting 50% of rogue's bloodcry isn't a good solution,because that way AVR will still be a luck lottery for all classes,not a damage-base competition...

Making the boss immune to passive skills is the only solution,and i don't understand why can't R2 do this.It's very simple,like they did with the Guild boss.All it takes is a few minutes for their programmers and it's done,i don't get why not do it,if over 80% people want this to happen

[CloudySage]

Soooo,it's been a day and this thread is quiet.But poll results are 81% for the change,and 19% against.So dear mods,can you please make this an official poll so more people will see? I've been trying pretty hard to get my server to support,but i don't have accounts on EVERY server,so that's all i can do.

[iyasn2]

Id say its enough.

[Botolminum]

I say, all we can do is just wait, they're going to fix it, just not now, maybe next year or so... just like the revive on spot with cooldown or rdc/bdc better rewards.

[CloudySage]

No,"next year" won't do.Come on,the poll has over 80% people voting for the change,doesnt that mean something? What ELSE do you want,this thread has received A LOT of support,all R2 needs to do is change a simple code,is it THAT hard?