Rest in peace Sengolia

[Saisaishi]

This was funny to read, we'll worded too. If you want to get into longer lasting Sengs so you can farm silver badges then wait a lil to get into L2 Seng most of the time they last longer than first seng. But yea my server has been talking about ideas os separating Seng into Mortal,Scion, & Eidolon categories xD.

[R2341835]

It wasn't my intention to start such a heated debate XD. Sengolia in the (S6)/(s10)/(s15)/(s24)/etc..... has been pretty decent lately. Actually lasting up to 15 mins! However the fact of the matter is, it has been up to the players to prop this event up. We as players have literally out grown the bounds of Sengolia. Bottom line.

[elsage]

how about open new instance every time an instance ended instead of two instances limit

[dizy07]

if really concerned about the whole world wide community with this issue. learn Chinese and find the original game and petition them that they make a entire product wide change to all platforms to include this change to be fair for everyone.

I agree with you(for all the other changes), BUT the "original game" as you put it, has other priest skills while this one wich is the exact same one from wich.... im guessing (?) they bought the game from, has different skills, why arent they the same? you say they work to make it better for everyone but why is it different to priests and the same for every other class? what you say to that?... and no offence here, but they take the time to imediatly fix a "glitch" as soon as they hear about it, wich helped priests in bath more or some dungeons(angel blessing heal), but take so much time to not do anything about the other priest skills(more then half a year. and counting im more months now...), i just have to say... "they are verry efficient"

[Alexmancer]

Towers and Crystals both need more HP and they need more defense and damage reductions, you should not be able to attack the crystal at all until all the towers have been destroyed, and there should be a safe zone at spawn points.

This alone would greatly help Sengolia, splitting by planes will not. The buffs need to truely make things balanced.

[ShadowGammaDraco]

I feel like, having started in the middle of the first page, Shadow may have missed the key to this topic. I apologize if I missed reading something, but this started out as an "obituary" to seng. The player who made that comes from a server that is over a year old, with cashed up Eidolons who are capable of soloing the crystal in seng in under a min, and it is virtually impossible for the team they are opposing to stop them. We often have times on our server where both sengs are over in less than 10 min. I have seen both end in 3 min.

There are many feasable tweaks that could be made to rectify this problem that players have put out. Please refer to my suggestion about making towers more like gotor, either you hit it or you dont, and it needs however many hits to kill it.

I also agree the balencer buffs should be addressed, as I feel they, at time, simply create a bigger gap between players, opposite to their described intent.

I understand the feeling of being ignored by the GM's. Many people may not relize the little extent they have tp tweak the game, I know I didnt. But to even get awknowledgement, like someone said of a "Thanks for the suggention, we will look into it" would make a world of difference.

I am, at the time of this post, a lvl 100 scion in full slayers with decent gems, and yet there are Eidolons whom I am amazed if I manage to land a hit of 5k on, and I feel my meteor only works about 3/4 of the time. There is frusteration in this game for those who are newer or not as strong as the people who began playing when the server was formed. I think this stratification is where the frusteration cxomes from- the inability of so many players to make a difference of be able to enjoy the event.

I hope that this makes sense. I am not trying to rag on or b***h at anyone, I, like so many others, am just looking for change.

would you fill a obituary with insults to higher powers who have nothing to do with the way things are? that's like Day of the Dead (Spanish: DÃ*a de los Muertos) , you have respect for the dead.an the situation. but don't blame random ppl for their death etc. wouldn't put in my grandmas obituary for newspaper for everyone to read full of "curse you this an this person , and you for this an that, and that one thing you did in second grade omg"
ppl were trashing gms. most gms don't do programming. that's devs, then again there is limits to what they can do. but that's still not their fault. they can only do so much. certain things can't be "waves magic wand and changes" type thing. and i do believe some changes could be made. so i was agreeing with thread opener. and disowning the posts where ppl were trashing others. especially if the people they are trashing could possibly help poke the right people to get some thing noticed.

Balrogs Hell Sux as an AOE spell......Useless after level 10 mortal.

my old guild leaders balrog hell does 100k dmg to me. i'm nearly same level same gear. or was at time. its also good for standing on to make sure rogues have a hard time easy pickins on mages

[KonataNya]

In my times, the charactes lvl 30-40 dont die!

[R2_Harke]

Balrogs Hell Sux as an AOE spell......Useless after level 10 mortal.

[LKJ55]

to all knights

dragon hook the ediolons to your side for your priests and everyone else to attack them.
you will buy a few seconds of time this way.

to all rogues

careful when stealthing

to all mages

spam balrogs hell/blizzard

to all priests

max out healing/buff powers

to all archers

your range is a godsend

[mrsrachaelsnape]

Seng last sometimes like 2 mins in Killer den now after the merge. It sucks because I don't get enough kills and I need lots of silver. They should have 4 of them in a day so less people might be in one or set a level cap to it.

[Kisara1]

I feel like, having started in the middle of the first page, Shadow may have missed the key to this topic. I apologize if I missed reading something, but this started out as an "obituary" to seng. The player who made that comes from a server that is over a year old, with cashed up Eidolons who are capable of soloing the crystal in seng in under a min, and it is virtually impossible for the team they are opposing to stop them. We often have times on our server where both sengs are over in less than 10 min. I have seen both end in 3 min.

There are many feasable tweaks that could be made to rectify this problem that players have put out. Please refer to my suggestion about making towers more like gotor, either you hit it or you dont, and it needs however many hits to kill it.

I also agree the balencer buffs should be addressed, as I feel they, at time, simply create a bigger gap between players, opposite to their described intent.

I understand the feeling of being ignored by the GM's. Many people may not relize the little extent they have tp tweak the game, I know I didnt. But to even get awknowledgement, like someone said of a "Thanks for the suggention, we will look into it" would make a world of difference.

I am, at the time of this post, a lvl 100 scion in full slayers with decent gems, and yet there are Eidolons whom I am amazed if I manage to land a hit of 5k on, and I feel my meteor only works about 3/4 of the time. There is frusteration in this game for those who are newer or not as strong as the people who began playing when the server was formed. I think this stratification is where the frusteration cxomes from- the inability of so many players to make a difference of be able to enjoy the event.

I hope that this makes sense. I am not trying to rag on or b***h at anyone, I, like so many others, am just looking for change.

[Kayshah]

On topic, i have another issue with seng, if i try to enter even 2 minutes late there's no room...Please try to separate it on planes/levels or add more channels to it. Twice this week i was free to play , tried seng NPC, couldn't get in. Other than that, op is right, seng's no fun anymore because of the huge unbalance. I miss the times when we had 1 hr long sengs and a mean tank (venooooom?!) was hugging me to death inthere

[sebastian1988]

Got that wrong then. Thought you were refering to me, since you quoted my post.

I agree with the insulting part. It for sure makes the GMs work less hard for this game when people don't appreciate their work and start insulting instead.

But there are a lot of people in this community who work hard too. Reporting bugs, coming up with great event ideas, with awesome suggestions. Why can't a GM appreciate those ideas too? Is it really that much work to reply to unique posts? If you see people complaining about bugs for weeks, why don't you talk with them to find out about that issue? Or let them know that you are looking into it. The fragarach glitch for priests existed way too long. It took them forever to understand how it works. And I saw quite a lot people who told them how it is been done.
For the priests skills, ain't the suggestions the skills of the original cs version? Didn't they see the need to adjust them? Now people see the need in our version, that is why they ask for them. If it's not possible or takes a long time to fix them, then the GMs should let the community know.
And not everyone wants awesome events every week, but at least events that they can participate in. And quite a lot people would be happy to miss out on events if bugs get fixed instead. I always complain when events don't include the chance to get roses or soul prints, because I think that it is really important to have everything accessible without cash. Because I'm concerned about my server.
And I'm actually really disappointed about all the accepted suggestions, that never happened and all the fixes that just made things worse or are mere typos.
This game is nothing but farming your dungeons at some point and even farming your dungeons doesn't help you to get excited again. It's getting boring.
Being a casher, being highlevel, being strong is worth nothing. Unless you really love to be a jerk or to show off. There is nothing in this game to do. The +15 enchantings sure are nice, but that alone doesn't change the fact that there is still nothing to do after farming your dungeons.
Not even the events are fun anymore, lol. It's always the same. No improvement, no new ideas, work of 5 minutes. The turkeys were exactly the same as the Evil Turkey Boss back then.
And maybe, just maybe, this game could be fun again if things get some balance. All I see are the same events over and over again and wanted events being nerfed. To remove any possibility of a tiny balance.

Could as well remove the suggestions forum, since I don't recall any good suggestion (not the **** ones) being implemented or even appreciated by the GMs. (not even the accepted ones)
Or was that the purpose of that subforum? Getting suggestions out of other subforums since no one wants to read/reply anyway?
They work to make us happy? Most people think they just want to make some fast profit before this game dies out, I don't see that many happy people around.

It works for wartunes apparently. Every week a bunch of new content. They even tell their players in advance what they gonna add at their maintenance. We don't get that much love from the GMs

[ShadowGammaDraco]

I'm just saying that the GM's lack response. If they would communicate with us instead of ignoring posts, then many issues could be resolved.
And I really believe that telling us in advance what they are working on, would make people feel more confident,

I never said anything about events in my prior post. Nor did I compare our version with other versions in this thread.
I'm not saying, that they don't read / work on the problems, but they should let people know.

And you said yourself, that asking my neighbor would be the right way, then why aren't the GM's doing that?

Best example:
Daimon Shield got "fixed".
Speeds16 posted about that skill still being bugged, no GM response. Never got fixed.

A single response could have solved that issue a long time ago. They have to communicate with the people that play this game to improve.
I don't see why a GM can't let people know that they read threads about seng / priests / whatever. Contract doesn't allow it? Tell the players about it.

Same was with treasure trove. People complained about broken gear. GM's never said anything, people were unhappy.
Then they added a master hammer. It shows that they do read the posts but at the same time it shows that they prefer people complaining a week instead of telling them that they try their best to resolve part of the issue.

edit

Oh, I missed that last part, that you just added to your post.
I really have no clue who you refer to. Doesn't sound like a reply to my post.
However, how is it an insult when people telling the truth? The priests do have a nice summarized thread with no GM response.
Reaper Pet with physical base attack got fixed by changing the typo of all physical base attacks to magical base attack. I mean, c'mon, does it really take 2 maintenance to fix that skill?
Priest passive glitch got fixed by prolonging it. That's a huge nerf in the priest skills.
Dragon Spine has a bug with the balancer when people reload. Already suggested to kick people outside on refresh, like tamalan or crypt, they never did that.
And fyi, Killer's Den magic immunity is still a global buff that never got fixed, even though the patch notes state that.
Sorry, there is a crapload of little things in this game that could be resolved when GM's would talk with their players. It's not an insult, they constantly prove that they don't play this game and therefor have no idea what they are doing.

most the suggestions about priest an everything else has been "omg this version has this and that"-how dare you not give us this" or some form of "its all the gms fault".
and you asked about what they can and can't do. and i gave you your answers. i find people calling gm's lazy panzy etc etc calling them idiots is a insult. if they had no idea what they were doing there wouldn't of even been a attempt which showed a result. unless your saying they have altered codes this whole time out of sheer luck. this thread isn't about you and me and your replys or my replys. its about the subject as a whole. which is what i replied to as ppl just hop on these threads an trash the game an gms and cashers etc etc. as i have said there have been countless threads opened. countless threads merged and closed. and again. i'm responding here. and have been responding on these threads since i started playing over a year ago. and there was responses an eventually a change when good threads came around like i've said. acting like there is no hope an nothing happens is the issue. not gms. if there is still issues with something, people should be filing a ticket with the stuff to show it. not making random QQ TT threads with nothing but hate speech to the game an the game masters who work to make players happy. everyone wants new awesome events EVERY week. thats new testing an new bugs to sift through EVERY week. that they've been constantly doing for more then a year besides the few times no maint week&even then something HUGE comes out after that week of no maint most the time. cut them some slack. show appreciation an support. why would they wanna work for us on said things if we don't appreciate their work? least they are trying. wonder if saga of hero or the original even HAS a temp safety net where you can attack spawn campers while respawing. probably not as it was a change for this version. so that would mean they do care. and they do read and do reply. they don't HAVE to reply to EVERY single seng thread like i've said before. that's what forum moderators are for, sifting through the stuff an putting it in right place or getting rid of it so ppl aren't effected.

[venomeh]

lol again there you go assuming things. you know people have a life. they have to get a job an go to school. maybe all that time doing stuff for no $ for a community of haters got to them. like, they ran out of $ to buy food an stuff an wanted to advance in life. and gm's have replied on seng threads before. and his priest thread was sent to gm's as well. the more positive feedback on something the more it gets noticed. but again. instead of ppl going "i will not support cs blah blah blah because of this, i quit", is that really helping anything? probably not. what happens when you cut a schools budget down to bare min? you run out of room in classes, not enough materials etc etc. even for priest stuff. that's not their fault, they didn't make the game. but its been shown if enough positive feedback an desire from this specific player base is there, then stuff has a larger tendency to happen. or there would never be a gmut event. or pet extravaganza. or changes to all those and fragarach weapons etc etc, i'd say the evidence speaks for itself that R2 does listen and care. they even brought out player made costumes.

Yea I will, if I see something like "kinda sick at the moment" or something like that. And if the mentioned topic gets also removed from his signature & active user doesn't show up to forums for a month. Uhm the GMs gets paid for their job and the moderators aren't getting the hate.. And you want a list of the supporters with a post as a proof for that priest change thing for "enough positive feedback"? The said mod asked me to do it so I have it saved up.