Hecate Needs to be Nerfed! That hero is way overpowered!

[stiivi]

Yes, thanks to ppl hitting his rose knight, claw stats at 75 rage, like any other of his heroes, you dnt atk rose, claw never hits first round.

And well, that's why i sayd well built. Its nice server for him to grow in, not many cashers in there. if arcane would atk first. and lands stun, renders his rage buffer useless.

Lesser build wouldnt be able to do the trick. but its winnable for sure.

[Painindaback]

Nah, claws use skill every turn either way, Nereida + 45 rage, AC +55 rage per turn, what does that equal to? You guessed it 100

And please state the server and name of the player(If the player had a 325k br main and a 325k br hecate then I think I just proved my build being superior)

don't know which server he's originally from, but he's in the merged servers with s27 so you can see him from there. Name's EWAKO and no.. no hecate, not even 200k BR main. Just a valkyrie strong enough to survive your Claw's auto attack+main's skill so that your claw's skill is wasted next turn.

And I'll say this probably for the 20th time, your Claw will never use his skill on the first turn against a player who can think, unless you're level 75, but that doesn't seem to be the case yet. And if your Claw doesn't get to use his skill on first turn, neither nereida nor astral child would survive for the second turn. And if there was no rage bug, your Claw wouldn't start with 50 rage when your Rose knight is killed right after your claw does an auto attack. Which itself would lead to you not being able to wipe your opponent before an angel's attack and that's where your problems begin (namely aquarius).

[MagusRynd]

even if you dont kill RK, yer heroes will have to be more agile than his BC to outpace him. there are too many things to take care of in his build

[Painindaback]

even if you dont kill RK, yer heroes will have to be more agile than his BC to outpace him. there are too many things to take care of in his build

I think I have enough dodge/block to take care of his Claw's rage after he uses his skill and on monday I should have enough hit plus a 12% chance to stun to take care of his main as well. And the key to beating rose knight tactics is to kill it right after his claw does an auto attack... but right now because of the rage bug that's a bit of an issue. If there was no bug, his tactic wouldn't even be that good against smart players

[R2352025]

i dont think any of this matter cuz u guys will never meet 1v1 to prove each other point of who stronger, lol or better.. but quiny build is great for low end and f2p, u cant say it isnt

[Painindaback]

i dont think any of this matter cuz u guys will never meet 1v1 to prove each other point of who stronger, lol or better.. but quiny build is great for low end and f2p, u cant say it isnt

If he managed to get to the knockout in TT, maybe we could've, but players from my server that I can beat defeated his team 5-1

[R2352025]

TT he wont make it it based on a team, CST he a low end cashier, he'll need to diamond to make it like alot of others

[Painindaback]

TT he wont make it it based on a team, CST he a low end cashier, he'll need to diamond to make it like alot of others

Then how did we make it with 2 players without clothing, 1 at 500k br, 1 620k that didn't have 75 rage on any of his heroes and 1 casher who spent pretty much as much as qing.. if not less (we didn't have anyone above 630k). And our group was harder than his, considering that there were 5 players above 800k br(2 being at 900k), to their 2 and 2 hecates to their one

[R2352025]

oh well didnt get a chance to see logs they were wipe

[Painindaback]

oh well didnt get a chance to see logs they were wipe

For their team I checked just the fight against our server's team... a 700k player (that 3 of my team can beat ~50/50) wiped 3 of theirs, EWAKO killed one and then did 95% damage to qing. I think qing's team had just 50k or so lower BR than ours and it's not because they are using an actual low br player like we were and we still did 4-5 against our 2nd team (lost by 5%)

[R2352025]

nice, something i would liked to see

[Pyro_420]

Sounds like you are taking this theoretical competition between you and Qing a bit personal. Why are you raging so hard about his build? If you know how it can be countered, then great, but you don't have to criticize it so much. He's having fun exploiting bugs in the game much like the rest of us regarding hero partner skills. I know you aren't happy about that one either but what harm is there in others who can enjoy reaping the benefits from them against people who never truly learn how to set up a party properly? That is what seperates the men from the boys so to speak (Sorry to the ladies who play..it's an old phrase coined before the advent of being PC and so am I)

[R2352025]

i personally like qiny build, i wish more player copies it.. it make my fight easier =).. player copying my build is hard since it come down to class rank, LOL... but anyway every1 should play how they like it... it is true loa is a pvp base game but enjoy and grow .... u never know they might merge them together one day, lol

[Painindaback]

Sounds like you are taking this theoretical competition between you and Qing a bit personal. Why are you raging so hard about his build? If you know how it can be countered, then great, but you don't have to criticize it so much. He's having fun exploiting bugs in the game much like the rest of us regarding hero partner skills. I know you aren't happy about that one either but what harm is there in others who can enjoy reaping the benefits from them against people who never truly learn how to set up a party properly? That is what seperates the men from the boys so to speak (Sorry to the ladies who play..it's an old phrase coined before the advent of being PC and so am I)

Actually, let's speak like boy to man(I'm obviously the boy). What I'm doing is explaining the flaws of his team's formation, something that "fans" can't seem to see. I don't have a personal vendetta against him or anything, the only issue I have with him is his willingness to abuse a bug as much as he can before it gets fixed. As far as "reaping the benefits from them against people who never truly learn how to set up a party properly? That is what seperates the men from the boys so to speak". Are you saying with this that those who abuse bugs are the superior ones? By "them" I assume you meant the bugs? That's the only logical assumption based on your sentence.
And as far as enjoyment goes, do you enjoy fighting someone who you're superior to? Or would you rather fight someone who's superior to you and defeating him?
That would show us what kind of person you are
And R2352025, it's hard to copy your build due to $ spent But even so, a build like yours is easy to defeat, so long as everyone's on even footing. And even though you get a push through $ early on, in the later stages even a free player could defeat you with ease.

[noobero]

Personally, I use the same build as Qing and I know there is a huge flaw but no one knows it as of yet(in my server). I'm not going to tell anyone what it is either, why would I help people kill me haha. It's quite simple, easily done but can be overlooked.