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    I noticed looking at the CS tournament that most top players don't use claws, and was wondering the reasoning for not using him since everyone seems to be all hyped about that hero.
    Most parties are Valk/KoB/Hecate/Astral,Arcane and seldom Neredia. Is his damage just not that viable end-game? Or Is it because Valk hits back row also, and is much more durable?
    Also claws has nice dragon skills, so what's the deal?
    S146 Galvine

  • #2
    hecate astral arcane and valk are u need be a casher to gt thm frm card house event

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    • #3
      most of the times, its to separate oneself from the crowd (free players)

      valkyrie/hecate/astral/arcane are heroes that free players cant have, so cashers go fer them

      as fer claw, his dmg is the best among ruby heroes. in fact, among most of enigma heroes as well

      also, people like sweetener deals (buffs, debuffs, etc). claw is brute, plain force
      Last edited by MagusRynd; 06-15-2014, 02:58 PM.
      League of Angels

      S94 Lonewind Forest
      Magus Rynd

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      • #4
        Because most cashers arent aware that highly buffed claw is nice choice for party. They favour no rage skills over rage skills. Etc heca heal, HH skill spam. AH rage buff. Nereida buff. Valk taunt.
        Most of HoC heroes can be evolved in future and they are available for free players aswell. If you collect enough Lotto tickets ( about 5 Hoc's). Tbh high casher with Claw would do wonders with it.
        I did some testing with my KoB, was at 215k BR and one Claw, who had 185k Br, Claw and Kob's patk difference was 6k, Claw 111k and Kob, 105k. Both of their skill % value is 140. And crit hits were far more powerful for claw (150k+ele) and KoB ( 102k+ele). So for freebies Claw is better choice as you can focus solely on 1 toon. If top players would Cash beef claw, it would make serious dmg.

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        • #5
          i agree with stiivi. but i build now my hetace first

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          • #6
            no claw = 100% useless in high end, not becuz we arent aware, we are aware of it power and the useless combo of it.... only great for low end, met afew 300k claw.. ** paper weight dmg, lol.. 160k tops on a 280k hecate

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            • #7
              Cash Players dont need Claw since they never die thanks to Hecate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by EmperadorDeJade View Post
                Cash Players dont need Claw since they never die thanks to Hecate.
                indeed, u got that right
                Low lvl Mystic at S77

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                • #9
                  claw is a very strong hero,but it can be easily stopped and it's unreliable. Yeah sure, you see people showing amazing reports, but the problem is that claw itself is not a big deal .I have one of the strongest claws in the game with 160k regular Pattack and 38k elemental damage ,607k hp and only a lvl 8 cherub on it. Sure I beat players with huge BRs, but also if they do tiny changes to their build like adding main in front and such things it makes my build crumble. Endurance?destroys the crit which is claw's nr 1 thing. On another side of the note, the reason you don't see cashers use it is because of the hecate/main combo fashion that just arrived. It's efficient (temporary) and safe for most part

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MagusRynd View Post
                    most of the times, its to separate oneself from the crowd (free players)

                    valkyrie/hecate/astral/arcane are heroes that free players cant have, so cashers go fer them

                    as fer claw, his dmg is the best among ruby heroes. in fact, among most of enigma heroes as well

                    also, people like sweetener deals (buffs, debuffs, etc). claw is brute, plain force
                    get your fact straight, all heroes are FREE, the difference between casher and non-casher are how long you need.

                    Originally posted by andreicde View Post
                    claw is a very strong hero,but it can be easily stopped and it's unreliable. Yeah sure, you see people showing amazing reports, but the problem is that claw itself is not a big deal .I have one of the strongest claws in the game with 160k regular Pattack and 38k elemental damage ,607k hp and only a lvl 8 cherub on it. Sure I beat players with huge BRs, but also if they do tiny changes to their build like adding main in front and such things it makes my build crumble. Endurance?destroys the crit which is claw's nr 1 thing. On another side of the note, the reason you don't see cashers use it is because of the hecate/main combo fashion that just arrived. It's efficient (temporary) and safe for most part
                    i was a low-casher only, and i need 2 HoC to get hecate because lacking ace of hearts T_T.
                    i was thinking of getting berserker claw, but when i fight player with zerker, their combo was easily broken by valk.
                    when claw are taunted, the skill only hit valk only, and valk get 30% damage reduction with his def and hp.

                    so for me valk was the countermeasure for claw, in the other hand hecate got counter too but unfortunately i do not has what i need to counter them, so i cannot explain.

                    "What are you prepared to sacrifice"
                    "Victory costs, every time you pay a little more"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BlackVerZ View Post
                      get your fact straight, all heroes are FREE, the difference between casher and non-casher are how long you need.



                      i was a low-casher only, and i need 2 HoC to get hecate because lacking ace of hearts T_T.
                      i was thinking of getting berserker claw, but when i fight player with zerker, their combo was easily broken by valk.
                      when claw are taunted, the skill only hit valk only, and valk get 30% damage reduction with his def and hp.

                      so for me valk was the countermeasure for claw, in the other hand hecate got counter too but unfortunately i do not has what i need to counter them, so i cannot explain.
                      that's another reason that makes claw useless. Valkyrie buffed. As I said, it's a strong dps, but very easy to counter and there are many ways.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BlackVerZ View Post
                        get your fact straight, all heroes are FREE, the difference between casher and non-casher are how long you need.



                        i was a low-casher only, and i need 2 HoC to get hecate because lacking ace of hearts T_T.
                        i was thinking of getting berserker claw, but when i fight player with zerker, their combo was easily broken by valk.
                        when claw are taunted, the skill only hit valk only, and valk get 30% damage reduction with his def and hp.

                        so for me valk was the countermeasure for claw, in the other hand hecate got counter too but unfortunately i do not has what i need to counter them, so i cannot explain.
                        well if you can get 1st in your house of cards on your server with just low cashing then you dont have casher like most of servers do, we have our one spending plenty on every event to get every new **** they release. so we cannot get L jokers without them its waste in using HoC cards....
                        Freedy (15x Domi Champ, TOP16 CS TT)
                        S75 Whitewater Camp
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Freedy89 View Post
                          well if you can get 1st in your house of cards on your server with just low cashing then you dont have casher like most of servers do, we have our one spending plenty on every event to get every new **** they release. so we cannot get L jokers without them its waste in using HoC cards....
                          true, my server was low-casher only so i'm happy with it.
                          even with low active player it still enjoyable.

                          "What are you prepared to sacrifice"
                          "Victory costs, every time you pay a little more"

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                          • #14
                            Claw is for poor people (like me).

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                            • #15
                              one of the many reason i love players with claws ah the LOL tee hee hee

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