Need a new (or rather a) source for bound balens

[Vroukarouk]

Mines are non-existent, and the only reliable source is devo, which is only 100bb a day if you can do all the events. With merged skill skills being astronomically high, we need another source for bb. Old dimensions gave out a lot more bb on a consistant basis. Getting at most 3k bb a month, getting one good skill would take 5 months.

[Spanky28]

Congrats! What is your strategy for finding them? Do you find them in a specific type of dimension, ie. Advanced, Intermediate etc.?

I only do experts (1 per day) but seems for me at least that I go a couple months and not find any then get a lucky streak.

[Mentor_MrEUS]

Just have to get lucky...

Congrats! What is your strategy for finding them? Do you find them in a specific type of dimension, ie. Advanced, Intermediate etc.?

[Spanky28]

Just have to get lucky...

[Turbain]

3 dims done one after another 3 mines found normal ones but mines are mines ...(hope the next ones shell out also)
Not sure if its an oddity or the dims fairy has seen fit to bestow onto me some bb... either way I'll take it..
And yes had to do something I don't do.. search the whole dang floor to find em..
Guess I 'll be doing that more often and hope I don't fall asleep while walking around in there..

[Meikura001]

I am all for adding balen mines to the search assist in the same fashion as finding posts and exit.

The rest is garbage (or makes no sense in terms of cost). I do mine for speed completions.

[MrFancyPants]

I'm still baffled as to why some mines are "hidden" and the hidden ones aren't necessary more valuable than the visible ones.

Hidden mines cost no additional energy, I believe, but are otherwise identical. They're a huge pain to find, though, since you have to wander over the whole map, and any energy savings are easily wiped out by that. I'd much rather they eliminate all "hidden" events, since hidden merchants are garbage, and mines would be so much better if we could actually find them.

[Vroukarouk]

I'm still baffled as to why some mines are "hidden" and the hidden ones aren't necessary more valuable than the visible ones.

[atlan1]

yeh they need to make dims blitzable

[Mentor_MrEUS]

I don't think mines are any rarer now than they used to be, but people are finding them way less often. But I definitely agree dimensions could use an overhaul, and something that helps people find mines would be very nice. Along with speeding up the process of clearing, which is also a big grind.

I think the reason that are found less these days, came with the ability find the posts and end portal so you just have to make a direct path to them and not search all over the map for them.

[MrFancyPants]

If you grind, you can average about 200bb a day. But I remember when the original dimensions gave a more steady stream of bb. 1k a week, at least. Now, mines are the stuff of legends. Arch. is time consuming and the nickels one is harder to get. And after fishing was severely nerfed, it's harder to get nickels through games. What I want to see is something done with dimensions. Maybe be able to expose entire map for 300 energy or something like that. It needs an overhaul in a lot of ways and those secret mines need to be turned into regular mines.

I don't think mines are any rarer now than they used to be, but people are finding them way less often. But I definitely agree dimensions could use an overhaul, and something that helps people find mines would be very nice. Along with speeding up the process of clearing, which is also a big grind.

[Vroukarouk]

If you grind, you can average about 200bb a day. But I remember when the original dimensions gave a more steady stream of bb. 1k a week, at least. Now, mines are the stuff of legends. Arch. is time consuming and the nickels one is harder to get. And after fishing was severely nerfed, it's harder to get nickels through games. What I want to see is something done with dimensions. Maybe be able to expose entire map for 300 energy or something like that. It needs an overhaul in a lot of ways and those secret mines need to be turned into regular mines.

[Mentor_MrEUS]

Yes, this is definitely the right strategy. Clearing a skill slot is 300 bb, and you can learn a random skill at least twice a day, so you can probably get a good skill set in no more than a couple of weeks, well before you could save up enough to buy even one specific skill.

But do look for the normal passives - there's a good chance you'll want at least one of those, and they are only 1k bb, so probably better to buy those outright.

Also, a few other sources of bb to consider: game box can turn nickels into bb at 2:1, and that can add up to a decent return. Cloud adventure is surprisingly the best payoff for time spent. Archaeology can also give bb or nickels (nickels are actually the better deal if the drop rate is the same).
The gift piles give the 3 balen drop fairly often (~10%), so if you are active enough to get the devotion reward, you might supplement it with the gift piles.
So, if you're willing to do the grind, you can come up with a lot more than the 100/day, but it is pretty time-consuming.

I had forgotten about Archaeology and Gift Piles. Thanks for adding to the list!

[MrFancyPants]

They are also in Spire chests, and you can buy them in the Game Box.

As far as skill costs, I think it's cheaper to forget a skill and learn a free one. It takes more time of course, but in my opinion more economical in the long run.

Yes, this is definitely the right strategy. Clearing a skill slot is 300 bb, and you can learn a random skill at least twice a day, so you can probably get a good skill set in no more than a couple of weeks, well before you could save up enough to buy even one specific skill.

But do look for the normal passives - there's a good chance you'll want at least one of those, and they are only 1k bb, so probably better to buy those outright.

Also, a few other sources of bb to consider: game box can turn nickels into bb at 2:1, and that can add up to a decent return. Cloud adventure is surprisingly the best payoff for time spent. Archaeology can also give bb or nickels (nickels are actually the better deal if the drop rate is the same).
The gift piles give the 3 balen drop fairly often (~10%), so if you are active enough to get the devotion reward, you might supplement it with the gift piles.
So, if you're willing to do the grind, you can come up with a lot more than the 100/day, but it is pretty time-consuming.

[Mentor_MrEUS]

Yes, this is definitely the right strategy. Clearing a skill slot is 300 bb, and you can learn a random skill at least twice a day, so you can probably get a good skill set in no more than a couple of weeks, well before you could save up enough to buy even one specific skill.

But do look for the normal passives - there's a good chance you'll want at least one of those, and they are only 1k bb, so probably better to buy those outright.

Also, a few other sources of bb to consider: game box can turn nickels into bb at 2:1, and that can add up to a decent return. Cloud adventure is surprisingly the best payoff for time spent. Archaeology can also give bb or nickels (nickels are actually the better deal if the drop rate is the same).
The gift piles give the 3 balen drop fairly often (~10%), so if you are active enough to get the devotion reward, you might supplement it with the gift piles.
So, if you're willing to do the grind, you can come up with a lot more than the 100/day, but it is pretty time-consuming.

I had forgotten about Archaeology and Gift Piles. Thanks for adding to the list!