Knights vs mages in 1.6 patch

[DukeOfViljamovka]

So i just lost from a mage in bg with 5k br lower than i am, only cuz he is now allowed with 10k matk and brut rune to kill mine lvl 57 templars and down me to 60% hp in 2 turns. Question: how does knight fight mages in new patch cuz if mages with so much lower br are able to win i'll lose 400 honor everytime they catch me. i have 8k mdef he had 10k matk still hitting me for 3,5k dmg each hit (he had no dryad was on killing spree after my death). And before someone start with b/s how to build knight he should stop right now cuz i had no problems before this patch came and only mages with 11k+ matk could kill my troops in 2 turns.

[CondorHero]

Knee-jerk reaction much?

[R21577189]

Knights normally fight mage carefully.

[ElusionM]

Lol Build a knight properly?

Firstly..
Your BR is nothing, Knights have higher BR than others, if all same gems/astrals etc. BR is a rough indication of ones strength..Having higher BR does NOT mean you are stronger.

Secondly, it's possible you didn't bother trying to kill the mage? Went straight for his troops? If so, this is probably why you lost..

Thirdly,
The PVP Chain is .
Archer kills Mage, Mage kills Knight, Knight kills Archer.

[Ban-kai]

Lol Build a knight properly?

Firstly..
Your BR is nothing, Knights have higher BR than others, if all same gems/astrals etc. BR is a rough indication of ones strength..Having higher BR does NOT mean you are stronger.

Secondly, it's possible you didn't bother trying to kill the mage? Went straight for his troops? If so, this is probably why you lost..

Thirdly,
The PVP Chain is .
Archer kills Mage, Mage kills Knight, Knight kills Archer.

This is wrong. end-GAME knight stomp pretty much every class if on equal terms.

[ElusionM]

Eh, Pretty sure if I got my Pdef up high enough, I could stomp a Knight, but atm, yeah, Knights later on kill all classes. Early on, Mages kill Knights, especially silly ones

[R28881593]

could it be he was full of drays blessing? like you only fought him once so

[MisterChi]

it's a rock/paper/scissors world...sort of. knights have to work hard to get our mdef high enough to withstand mages' attacks long enough to kill them. because we have so much pdef "naturally", that's why we pretty much own archers (i routinely beat archers with a few k higher br than me). beating mages on a regular basis, especially those who have a higher br, is a process and not a given. spend some of that gold on your mdef astral and on enlightenment guild skill (yeah, it's expensive but if your other guild skills are maxed...) and maybe try to get more mdef refined into your gear.

[onimad]

invest in mdef...

[CondorHero]

This is wrong. end-GAME knight stomp pretty much every class if on equal terms.

Provide proof.

[R21577189]

This is wrong. end-GAME knight stomp pretty much every class if on equal terms.

End game knight
lvl 74 knight vs lvl 78 mage - poor lvl 74 knight 20.3k patk takes 4 - 6 turns to kill the lvl 78 templars. Mage takes 2 turns ( 1 rof+ 1 meteor).

lvl 74 knight vs lvl 76 pve set archer - archer spams Armor Pierce on poor knight. (PS, no knight standing in front now, coz knight vs knight can delphic + e delphic the knight if standing in front)

Ok Knight can kill all, but need pretty heavy cash!

[0xykotton]

Provide proof.

Look at the Chinese server? yes I know they have easier access to things like gems etc. So we can't really use that a proof but the overall point is that if we did get the same treatment as the Chinese server. Then yes knights will over win any class. There knights have 150k Brs with over 100k HP. Heals per block and over 10k block .Will make them pretty hard to kill.

[DeathRiver]

Look at the Chinese server? yes I know they have easier access to things like gems etc. So we can't really use that a proof but the overall point is that if we did get the same treatment as the Chinese server. Then yes knights will over win any class. There knights have 150k Brs with over 100k HP. Heals per block and over 10k block .Will make them pretty hard to kill.

Oxy dear, heal on block is capped at 3k HP remember? And Mages can cast Suntoria, making them heal faster than Knights for a period, it is still on even terms between Knight and Mages. Archers on the other hand...

[R21577189]

Oxy dear, heal on block is capped at 3k HP remember? And Mages can cast Suntoria, making them heal faster than Knights for a period, it is still on even terms between Knight and Mages. Archers on the other hand...

Yo death u ever fought an archer stacking AP at u ?

[0xykotton]

Oxy dear, heal on block is capped at 3k HP remember? And Mages can cast Suntoria, making them heal faster than Knights for a period, it is still on even terms between Knight and Mages. Archers on the other hand...

Ah okay well its 3k capped now? Okay well still im sure it be a pain to fight them just bc of the stats alone and the large amount of hp. There shield will hold up a lot longer as well. Then pve gear as well. Oh and not to mention even though the heals are capped they got knights with 10k+ block so im sure the block rate is just insane.