[ToK] The "Thank you for Stripping" thread.

[kattuktk]

but in no way should it be the way it is and there be any expectation of NM level being cleared without the help of those players ranked within.

I'm pretty sure that even if you have one of the top players on your side and the rest 110k, you wont be able to pass even a single level of NM fully legit, even if all four cross server top BR players got together they wont be able to pass level 3, We have the top cross server player with us and the clones at level 3 become extremely hard, it is "impossible" to clear more than level 3 even if you get the top cross server players all together, this is all due to the fact that ToK NM takes the BR and stats of the top 4 cross server players and multiplies it according to the level, so basically at level 3 your facing the same players but with their stats multiplied by a lot, the clone at level 4 hits thrice as hard to the same player of which he is a clone of, I have seent that and its impossible, I dont think "any team" can pass even level 3 of tok NM fully equipped, its a broken MPD

[R21577189]

Yes they do lol. Idk if they removed it recently but they do. I have a video to show you as well. Give me a sec till i find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjs7U4Lopt8

Here is the video. Idk if they removed it now but they did have it.

lol that's the taiwanese server by the way. You can see that all the words are typed in traditional chinese (used by taiwanese) instead of simplified chinese.

星曲 - refers to the taiwanese version of wartune

神曲 - refers to the one by 7road.

There's also a malaysian version in simplified chinese with tok too under 神曲 asia.

Couldnt read those damn chinese with the other computer.

[MSEngel]

If 7 Road servers had ToK, it was before June 2013.

If you have a chinese-english speaking friend/buddy on the chinese server that you're playing, ask him/her :P

[Eskendal]

If 7 Road servers had ToK, it was before June 2013.

[S44-ZEREF]

Well the video i posted shows otherwise lol. Maybe it's not there anymore but they did have it.

heard they removed tok cause players complained about it lol dunno how true it is thou

[0xykotton]

I've been playing on 7 Road and 91 Wan servers for over 6 months and they never had Tower of Kings.

If they had Tower of Kings, it was before patch 1.6 when I start.

Well the video i posted shows otherwise lol. Maybe it's not there anymore but they did have it.

[Eskendal]

I've been playing on 7 Road and 91 Wan servers for over 6 months and they never had Tower of Kings.

If they had Tower of Kings, it was before patch 1.6 when I start.

[IggyBousse]

Yes they do lol. Idk if they removed it recently but they do. I have a video to show you as well. Give me a sec till i find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjs7U4Lopt8

Here is the video. Idk if they removed it now but they did have it.

Bloody hell these forums are full of lies then, people keep saying in other topics how the chinese have no ToK, and here u tell me otherwise.
I need to stay away here if I want real answers rofl. At least you back it up with evidence.

That's the second time I found out I been lied to today lol.

[0xykotton]

90k BR can easily defeat Tok Normal (fully equiped) nowadays, the rest is spot on tho.


There is no ToK on the chinese servers lol. Maybe that's why?

Yes they do lol. Idk if they removed it recently but they do. I have a video to show you as well. Give me a sec till i find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjs7U4Lopt8

Here is the video. Idk if they removed it now but they did have it.

[IggyBousse]

Well all I think is, it's normal Tok hard and Tok NM are higher difficulty, but the way they programmed it is just wrong.
It shouldn't be impossible. Hard is even impossible for 99 percent of the players, I understand NM being impossible for 99 percent but hard?
I mean ZebQ was able to (almost) solo ToK Hard in august (he took some weak(er) people with him), I challenge Onimad or LinKeTong to do this now lol.
Too many new implementations made ToK too hard, it's as simple as that.

[S44-ZEREF]

some platforms have tok unless they removed in latest patch....

[IggyBousse]

Banshee,

You're spot on. What a lot of people don't realize is that Tower of Kings is a broken mechanic that requires cross-server (in r2 at least) cooperation where people are removing items. Otherwise ToK NM would be impossible. ToK Hard would be unattainable for all but a handful of the top players in each server cluster working together. Here's why:

When ToK was created, it was labelled with BR Difficulty Ratings per level. ToK NM required 100K Br to beat, ToK Hard was 80k, ToK Normal was 60k. Now keep in mind, at the time there were maybe a handful of players per region that were at 100K, so everyone knew that NM was unbeatable at the time from players working together from a single server cluster.

Well, then Academy Blessing came out and NM required 115K BR to beat. As new Mounts came out it got more difficult as well. Then we got a 2nd Academy Page and Pets and now, if you want to beat NM (at least on the East Cost) with everyone equipped, you're going to need a team of 160k+ BR players. Hard requires about 130K now when equipped.

The point here being that ToK Scales its difficulty based on the stats of the player, which is wrong. It should take the players profile in terms of name and look, but use a generic power rating for the level of ToK being done. Maybe scale it based on server age or something - but in no way should it be the way it is and there be any expectation of NM level being cleared without the help of those players ranked within.

So it's really not a free ride at all, as Banshee has said. It's the top-end players "fixing" what R2 did wrong. Without their help, 90k BR players would be struggling to clear normal, not clearing Hard like they should be based on what ToK was advertised when it came out.

90k BR can easily defeat Tok Normal (fully equiped) nowadays, the rest is spot on tho.

Thing is i dont think that the Chinese server has people stripping for there server to pass lol. So saying it's R2 fault is just silly.

There is no ToK on the chinese servers lol. Maybe that's why?

[0xykotton]

Banshee,

You're spot on. What a lot of people don't realize is that Tower of Kings is a broken mechanic that requires cross-server (in r2 at least) cooperation where people are removing items. Otherwise ToK NM would be impossible. ToK Hard would be unattainable for all but a handful of the top players in each server cluster working together. Here's why:

When ToK was created, it was labelled with BR Difficulty Ratings per level. ToK NM required 100K Br to beat, ToK Hard was 80k, ToK Normal was 60k. Now keep in mind, at the time there were maybe a handful of players per region that were at 100K, so everyone knew that NM was unbeatable at the time from players working together from a single server cluster.

Well, then Academy Blessing came out and NM required 115K BR to beat. As new Mounts came out it got more difficult as well. Then we got a 2nd Academy Page and Pets and now, if you want to beat NM (at least on the East Cost) with everyone equipped, you're going to need a team of 160k+ BR players. Hard requires about 130K now when equipped.

The point here being that ToK Scales its difficulty based on the stats of the player, which is wrong. It should take the players profile in terms of name and look, but use a generic power rating for the level of ToK being done. Maybe scale it based on server age or something - but in no way should it be the way it is and there be any expectation of NM level being cleared without the help of those players ranked within.

So it's really not a free ride at all, as Banshee has said. It's the top-end players "fixing" what R2 did wrong. Without their help, 90k BR players would be struggling to clear normal, not clearing Hard like they should be based on what ToK was advertised when it came out.

Thing is i dont think that the Chinese server has people stripping for there server to pass lol. So saying it's R2 fault is just silly. Blame 7roads who made it since all R2 does is copy/paste the files over here. Also that wasn't my point of the thread anyway. I was stating ways why people may feel annoyed at these topics. I wasn't saying my point of view on this. So please stay on topic. I personally don't care if people strip or not for Tok hard/nm. I never said I believe it's giving free players a ride. I stated that SOME PEOPLE may THINK that. There is a difference. Anyways though that's besides the point. Thanking someone is okay but do it directly to there server. It takes like 10 sec to make atoon and a few more mins to lvl up to 6 I think to start pming the person. These are the main reasons why this thread shouldn't be here.

1.)The person may not even read the forums. So your thank you may not even get to the person you want to thank anyway.

2.) Creates unnecessary drama for the reasons I stated earlier. Just look at this thread it started drama that shouldn't have happened. So why not save yourself hassle and just go to the server directly.

3.) Thanking someone directly means more to them and you than thanking them on a forum that they may never even read.

4.) there are multiple threads like this on the forum. It creates spam because these are all over the place and each one of them has drama in it. If there must be a topic thanking someone. Create one and just ONE topic that is a big thank you to everyone. Not just the person you are trying to say thank you. That way you can say thank you to everyone instead of creating tons of posts about it. Less drama that way as well.

[Zorich]

Hmmmm.... sorry, but I don't think it's giving Lower BR a 'free ride'. It's more like bypassing R2's way of making us fight each other and spend tons more money than we have to. As for thanking people for ToK NM, I think it's great! ...

Banshee,

You're spot on. What a lot of people don't realize is that Tower of Kings is a broken mechanic that requires cross-server (in r2 at least) cooperation where people are removing items. Otherwise ToK NM would be impossible. ToK Hard would be unattainable for all but a handful of the top players in each server cluster working together. Here's why:

When ToK was created, it was labelled with BR Difficulty Ratings per level. ToK NM required 100K Br to beat, ToK Hard was 80k, ToK Normal was 60k. Now keep in mind, at the time there were maybe a handful of players per region that were at 100K, so everyone knew that NM was unbeatable at the time from players working together from a single server cluster.

Well, then Academy Blessing came out and NM required 115K BR to beat. As new Mounts came out it got more difficult as well. Then we got a 2nd Academy Page and Pets and now, if you want to beat NM (at least on the East Cost) with everyone equipped, you're going to need a team of 160k+ BR players. Hard requires about 130K now when equipped.

The point here being that ToK Scales its difficulty based on the stats of the player, which is wrong. It should take the players profile in terms of name and look, but use a generic power rating for the level of ToK being done. Maybe scale it based on server age or something - but in no way should it be the way it is and there be any expectation of NM level being cleared without the help of those players ranked within.

So it's really not a free ride at all, as Banshee has said. It's the top-end players "fixing" what R2 did wrong. Without their help, 90k BR players would be struggling to clear normal, not clearing Hard like they should be based on what ToK was advertised when it came out.

[B4nsh33]

Do agree that the way zeref and others were creating something that wasn't there. However, as I said i can see why people are making a big deal out of this. Plenty of times where there been threads about people being plundered while they strip, people not stripping for tok hard or nm, and people letting low BRs get a free ride. Not to mention the countless threads each day thanking someone. It's kinda silly in a way to make a thread really. That be like making a thread thanking someone for helping out in Multiplayer dungeons each day. There really no need for that kind of thread. If there must be a thank you thread it should just be one big thank you thread and just bump it up. That way the spam isn't all over the place. Anyways though the TS should have known what kind of reaction she would get just by reading all the past threads. If you know that the reactions arn't so well then maybe it's best not to make a repost. Both people were in the wrong here i say.

Hmmmm.... sorry, but I don't think it's giving Lower BR a 'free ride'. It's more like bypassing R2's way of making us fight each other and spend tons more money than we have to. As for thanking people for ToK NM, I think it's great! I'm saying thank you for all the High Levels in East Coast (you know who you are!). I thank them when I see them in Group Arena too!!! I think threads like this promote more cooperation between players, as we get way too competitive with each other and forget we need each others help. I've done many mp's with our most competitive guild .... I don't view them as enemies, but some people do. Guess haters gonna hate.... but I like to think that we are only competitors for 1 hour a week. Even before our server merge, we were cooperatively plundering each other so as not to make people mad at each other for nothing. This is a game, but remember, when we fight and compete too much with each, only R2 wins (our money).