The "I want BG by BR!" thread [merged threads]

[AndreiCatalin13]

There have been dozens and dozens of threads discussing this. Most of them are merged into one here. It offers a wide range of views from the Wartune posters on the forum.

One argument against BG by BR is: how do you prevent a person with 200K stripping down to ~140K to enter BG, and then put their gear back on? That would defeat the purpose. Another argument is that a level 35 with 80K cannot compete with a level 70 with 80K, due to the difference in number of astrals, skill points, and the fact that the level 70 has access to Fate levels, sylphs and what not...

So overall, the general consensus of the forum always leans towards that BG and SFT are fine as is, and that BG by BR isn't a walk in the park as people make it out to be.

You can put lvl 35-55 bg, and over 55 lvl , make it work on br ... i think at lvl 55 you have all you need on astral, sylph and other thinks and you can make it work by br .....

You think its fair for some lvl 72 ( like me) with br 100k to fight with some1 lvl 72 who have over 250k br ? and i don't say, its ppl at lvl 65-70 who already have over 200k br .... and for a player who play about 2 months and have lvl 55 and a br approximately 80k to fight with a player lvl 65 and have over 200-230k br ... she will not have a change for cart .... i`m not saying for fight ....

[R225424182]

you forgot to factor in the 2-3 thousand Honor per week you can earn from Guild Battles, if you are in a mid-range guild that goes 2-1.
that's how I get my honor. Is it slow? yes. But I don't lose any honor every day or week.

[NeverwinterV2]

think about what i`m saying

I am at title warrior ( over 7k honor) i need Crusader ( 32k honor) for buying crystalnoid to synthethize lvl 70 staff. I can get somewhere at maximum 100 honor/day for enter in bg and stay to get out and take that 40/60 honor.

lets make a simple calculation:

32000-8000 ( that's around i have) = 24000 ( that's honor i need for Crusader)

And now, lets calculation how many day i need to get it:

24000 ( i need) : 100 ( how much can i get per day) = 240 days

240 days = 8 months ....


Now think, will stay a player that much time to get that title and to can synthetise and other think, and i don't say, after 8 months when you work harder to get it, you will need 1-2 months to can synthetise, in 10 months, that player who already have that title and many other, what br did she will have? over 250k right ? .... now you understand why 75% player quit on this game? because, that's not right to stay approximately 1 year to by 20% of 1 player who beat you only with troops.

I know, its just a game, and player who don't spend real money , should growing harder, but not this harder , because, i really think to quit ... i`m just a player, i know, wartune will not be closed if i will not longer playing but, think way not to make people stay and play ?!

honor from GB = 3k each week if you're on #1 guild
32000-8000 = 24000
24000:3000 (+700 per days) = 6.5 weeks = 1.5 months

[AndreiCatalin13]

honor from GB = 3k each week if you're on #1 guild
32000-8000 = 24000
24000:3000 (+700 per days) = 6.5 weeks = 1.5 months

GB its on when my timezone its 4:30 in the morning .... and its not #1 guild .......


==> R225424182 , you don't lose because maybe you timezone its good for you, think, timezone for my its not so good, when GB its on, i`m awaking for going to work in real life.... and i think i`m not the only one who cant participate in GB ....

anyway , i will drop this, nothing will change in game .

Good luck and Have fun but don`t forget to live the real life

[DarkMeph]

could you not set rewards for getting certain number of br like 50k 100k. They automatically get rewarded the first you reach that level. Then if try enter bg and remove gear the system has recorded the what level your BR has got so will only enter you into certain br brackets?

DarkMeph

[fenrir67]

dont get me wrong, but if you have 100k at lv 72 you're doing sth terribly wrong and its not the system which is broke then (although it is).

a bit longer than a year ago i was lv 70 and i had around 70k, which was pre sylph, pre academy blessing and pre sylph br added to your toon. with all those factors i could have had 100k br at lv 70 in 1,3 or 1,4 year ago. now there are even more possibilities to get stronger so the system in this case doesnt fail. how harsh it is, but youre weak for your level.

i understand that the system is useless, but your idea will only result that you will fight lower level players, which you can stun and kill with strong sylph. you can ask some ppl to get some kills, most ppl are ok with doing that during bg events. you're not even crusader so you dont even lose honor when you lose fights. just focus on getting stronger sylphs, resis etc and dont rush leveling

[heuheuheu]

GB its on when my timezone its 4:30 in the morning .... and its not #1 guild .......


==> R225424182 , you don't lose because maybe you timezone its good for you, think, timezone for my its not so good, when GB its on, i`m awaking for going to work in real life.... and i think i`m not the only one who cant participate in GB ....

anyway , i will drop this, nothing will change in game .

Good luck and Have fun but don`t forget to live the real life

If the time for GB isn't match with your current time, start over on new server that match yours.
You don't lose anything by dumping lv 70's toon with 100k BR.

[Yofireballer]

Battleground - inequity of play

To the developers, this game is amazing, great content and great add-ons/upgrades. Having said that, please, please do something about the inequality of play within Battleground (BG). The current system IS NOT WORKING. BG and Arena are the only two areas currently where players of all levels (and financing) can be in one place. The matching system in Arena helps equalize that environment (sort of, sometimes).

Battleground is another story. High level players and/or players who have spent $$ are hijacking the gameplay and making it undesirable to partake in the event. They often "camp" at the opposing teams spawn point and/or deny access to the crystal field, the only real way to gain any personal achievement when playing against players with 30,000 (or more) difference in BattleRating (BR). I suggest some sort of algorithm filter to either a). limit the level of the players permitted to be on the same BG field (more fields would need to be created) or b). filter the players by BR with no more than a XXXXX difference in BR (7,500?) being grouped together. It's no fun when players with absolutely no gamesmanship decimate the lower ranked player. I understand Dryad's Blessing is intended to "level the field", but it doesn't even come close when the BR disparity is so large. Looking forward to a fix, soon!

[Yesheron]

Battlegrounds already has level brackets. Matching by Battle Rating has already been discussed and would lead to a disaster.

[princestewii]

lolz level bracket broken for lvl 60-80

[Yofireballer]

Level brackets of up to 40 and then 41+?....not much of a bracket. Segregating by BR would be the most fair way to play it. Let those who think they are so hot go up against a truly good player. Segregating only by level is problematic because of the people who spend ungodly amounts of money to level up fast (Level 35 with a 75k BR for instance). The character Lavender is a prime example of this issue. If the person won't self regulate, the game must.

[KS222]

BR segregation is too easy to manipulate. You'd just have monsters "game the system" by stripping to get into lower BR bg, then gear up and spawn camp. Also, keep in mind that BR is a rough measure, especially now that sylph BR is added to our own. I shred some people who, just by BR, should win easily (100k higher than me) and lose to some people who are lower BR than me, but happen to be stronger in the right places (or just have really high resistance to my element).

What I would suggest to level the playing field is to adjust honor gain and loss by relative BR. That way, rather than rewarding higher BRs for farming easy kills, they'd get little from easy kills and would be rewarded more for fighting other monsters. In Fire Temple, where points and number of kills affect rewards, I'd suggest that the higher your opponent's BR is compared to yours, the more points you get as well. That way, people who win fewer fights, but all their fights are vs people near their BR or higher BR than them would get better rewards than a guy who sits there farming low BRs the whole time. This system would still have it's flaws as you'd see more people spam killing 1-2 players near their BR that they know they can beat (more bruised egos, more drama and raging in BG/FT). That might actually benefit R2 though; cashers bullying each other might cause those cashers to spend more to beat the "jerks" bullying them.

[Yofireballer]

Not a bad suggestion KS222, I forgot you could still "load up" once you enter BG. Of course the simple solution to that might be, just like in Arena or MP Dungeons, when you click "ready" you can't change your load out. I'm sure the devs could grey out your inventory buttons once you hit ready (must do so to leave camp), then the BR is in play as the player enters the environment and can't be manipulated. In any case, something needs to be done.

[KS222]

They could do that, but it's doesn't benefit R2/7Road to do so. Unfairness in PvP is part of what motivates players to spend (or just avoid it entirely).

That is why I suggested a system that rewards you more for fighting people near your BR or higher BR than you. It fosters competition (and spending) by getting the monsters to fight each other and to pick on the "weaker" monsters. That is a change that could net R2/7Road more money and make bg/ft more fun for everyone (except those who just like running around getting easy wins, but there is nothing to stop them from continuing to act that way; they'd just get worse rewards).

[heuheuheu]

current BG matching that segregate by 10 levels is good.
maybe you can add by server age to those level matching.
something like 18 months ++, 12 to 18 months, 6-12 months and less than 6 months server.
you will likely see 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 bg but isn't that what you want?