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  • Lafozas
    started a topic Patch 3.1 fair or not

    Patch 3.1 fair or not

    First i want to say hi to everyone that even consider reading this.

    Now lets get to the point.

    Ok so we have new "awesome" patch , with bunch of new things. My questions is :

    Is it fair that half the servers get the patch before others ?
    When there was just S1 getting the benefits early was OK, but now half the servers can do all this essential new events before others ? Whys is that?
    Don`t we get in same Class Wars , Battle grounds and s soon Cross-Server Guild Battles ?

    So why if we play, fight and compete with this players, they or us should get advantage in one or other way?

    P.S. : Sorry guys i`m really frustrated. Please give your opinion below.

    Thanks in advance!

  • KS222
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    Originally posted by Lafozas View Post
    You see this is the difference. When you start to play and on what server you start to play is your decision. You know that you are late or weak but you still do it. When you pay for services you expect to get this services at same quality at the same time like your neighbor. If you order TV from same shop at same time like your neighbor and you get your delivery 1 week later you are not going to be ****** off ?
    Because at the end you both should get same quality and quantity of services.

    And yes in short term of time 1 week matters.
    1 week does matter for those who are close to the same. For instance, when 2 players are close to the same BR and then one misses a week of playing, the other player is most definitely ahead of them. It may not show right away, but that other player is closer to upgrading armor set, has that many more insignia, that much more gold, etc. Same is true with the new content. There are the stat boosts they get right away; not huge, but enough to tilt the field in their favor if it was an even match before. Additionally, assuming that they play daily and get everything done daily, they will always be 1 week ahead until the new content is maxed out (at which point it won't matter anymore). It does give a small percentage of servers a small, but distinct advantage over the rest of us. It won't make much difference where there were large gaps, and the advantage will vanish once everyone is maxed, but among those who were close to equal, it will show and it will make people mad.

    It also matters in class wars. Since they changed prelims so that BR matters more than wins, even small amounts of extra BR matter. Once again, it probably will matter mostlyfor those who are borderline (those barely making top 16 might get pushed out; those barely making finals might get pushed out), but it is still there and still an unfair advantage.

    I don't really expect a pay to win game to be completely fair; if it was, nobody would have reason to cash (if it was completely fair, there would be no advantage to cashing). However, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect equal time and $ to yield close to equal results (variations would exist due to choice in build and sylph, ofc). Instead, luck seems to bestow significant advantage in a most unfair manner on the lucky few while the rest of us get screwed.

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  • kimwong
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    Originally posted by R272123321 View Post
    Why shouldn't they be in the same CW?
    some players always think kong players have more benefits then r2 server (well true for heavy cashers, but not for majority of players)

    we got bonus Kreds when recharge which can be used for balens later (5000 balens we will get 650 free), but most of the other things just similar as r2/kabam

    also there are also some r2-limited event, like apollo feathers which never happened in kong servers, limited player as we only have a few servers so frequent merging is not possible (oceanic even only have 1 server...)

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  • S44-ZEREF
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    not all are that good as to enter without LD med

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  • R272123321
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    Originally posted by Lafozas View Post
    Well this is there problem no one make them do it. Anyway kong servers should not even be in same CW as R2 aswell. But now you will say i just complaint again.
    Why shouldn't they be in the same CW?

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  • Lafozas
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    Well this is there problem no one make them do it. Anyway kong servers should not even be in same CW as R2 aswell. But now you will say i just complaint again.

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  • kimwong
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    Originally posted by Lafozas View Post
    We are speaking for CW , have you seen anyone from top 100 with medalion different then LD one ?
    yes, my guildies enter TOP 100 with IC med

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  • Lafozas
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    Originally posted by kimwong View Post
    yes it makes a little difference but doesn't as other say making unfair, and even put them into different brackets

    furthermore, not everyone can make 3000 honor a day, just an example, if you are still using IC med, and the opponent using LD med, will you say it is unfair and tell these LD users to enter a different bracket?
    We are speaking for CW , have you seen anyone from top 100 with medalion different then LD one ?

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  • kimwong
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    Originally posted by Kingryan View Post
    1% of 65k patk is 650... Does that not make a difference? That is almost 2 level 8 gems...
    You will get also higher tenacity, plus 1k more hp.... I believe it could change battles... Even a small amount matters.
    Remember the class war where your enemy intercepted your troop (I really loved that battle)? If you did not have that "little more" charisma there, you would be the one intercepted, and the whole battle events and outcome will be different... Just a little more matters.

    Or, putting it in other way,
    That increase in damage could ensure the wipe out of your troops, and you would be the one to absorb the rage reduction of intercept... and everyhing changes. Just a little more matters.
    yes it makes a little difference but doesn't as other say making unfair, and even put them into different brackets

    furthermore, not everyone can make 3000 honor a day, just an example, if you are still using IC med, and the opponent using LD med, will you say it is unfair and tell these LD users to enter a different bracket?

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  • Wraithraiser
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    Originally posted by Lafozas View Post
    8 days ? My information is that next rank is on 270k honor. We have 240k honor that make 30k honor needed. 3k per day = 10 days.

    Or i`m wrong ?

    And yes 1% really matter because stack to other bunch of stuff that ppl get for that week . Mount refining materials and other stuff.
    And Dragon Souls .....
    Well going by the thread GFFG made:
    http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....for-all-Titles

    "Dragon Rider gives PDEF +125, MDEF +125 requires at least 264000 Honor (title in list is shown as Wyvern Knight)"


    264-240= 24k / 3k = 8 days

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  • IcarS69
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    So you want them to have an awful CW because you want 100-200 more CW points from finals? If your in top 16 then that should not be an issue, and if your not in the top 16 does 10-20 whips really matter that much to you?

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  • Kingryan
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    Originally posted by kimwong View Post
    so 1 week more = 21000 honor more max

    does 21K honor really make the difference? using a higher lvl (just 1 level) medallion does it really change the battle? like attack player with +40% dmg --> +41%, does that 1% make a big difference?
    1% of 65k patk is 650... Does that not make a difference? That is almost 2 level 8 gems...
    You will get also higher tenacity, plus 1k more hp.... I believe it could change battles... Even a small amount matters.
    Remember the class war where your enemy intercepted your troop (I really loved that battle)? If you did not have that "little more" charisma there, you would be the one intercepted, and the whole battle events and outcome will be different... Just a little more matters.

    Or, putting it in other way,
    That increase in damage could ensure the wipe out of your troops, and you would be the one to absorb the rage reduction of intercept... and everyhing changes. Just a little more matters.
    Last edited by Kingryan; 08-08-2014, 10:13 AM.

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  • Lafozas
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    Originally posted by Wraithraiser View Post
    You need 8 days of 3k honor to get next rank. After maintenance there's 9 days before CW, anyone that wants it will get it.
    8 days ? My information is that next rank is on 270k honor. We have 240k honor that make 30k honor needed. 3k per day = 10 days.

    Or i`m wrong ?

    And yes 1% really matter because stack to other bunch of stuff that ppl get for that week . Mount refining materials and other stuff.
    And Dragon Souls .....

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  • Alci1
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    Originally posted by kimwong View Post
    so 1 week more = 21000 honor more max

    does 21K honor really make the difference? using a higher lvl (just 1 level) medallion does it really change the battle? like attack player with +40% dmg --> +41%, does that 1% make a big difference?
    Yes, it simply means they WILL have the next rank and medal in CW. So they should be in different bracket.

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  • Wraithraiser
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    You need 8 days of 3k honor to get next rank. After maintenance there's 9 days before CW, anyone that wants it will get it.

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