[Announcement] New VIP System – What would you like to see?

[R2134692]

Hi R2 and all Crystal Saga players

Further to the request of idea submission regarding the Crystal Saga (CS) VIP System, I have drafted proposed VIP system changes as follows:

Base case – current Crystal Saga VIP System (only one VIP system available)
Cost to CS players: $7.99 USD / month
Benefits received by CS players (compared to non-VIP players) include:
• 800 Crystal received
• Additional permanent 50% character experience (i.e. 1.5 times non-VIP)
• Additional permanent 50% pet experience (i.e. 1.5 times non-VIP)
• Additional 2 AFK hours per day (i.e. 3 hours total bonus / day)
• Additional 2 Dragon Coins per day (i.e. 3 total coins / day)
• Additional 3 attempts for each dungeons per day(i.e. 8 attempts total / day)
• Additional 7 extra well wishes per day(i.e. total 12 wishes / day)
• Additional 1 Level 6 delivery Quest per day(i.e. for an extra 25 crystal cost to total of 2 deliveries / day)

Proposed case – Tiered Crystal Saga VIP System

Argument: to provide a comparable benefit based CS VIP system for those players who have loyally play and also willing to regularly contribute to CS gaming experience improvement. This will also bring benefit to R2 in enabling a constant monitoring system to the development of a particular server (VIP players and non-players ratio) i.e. for future server merge or better utilise of R2 company resources.

The proposal is to expand the current VIP system into three classes as follows:

Tier 1 – Silver VIP Class current Crystal Saga VIP System
Cost and Benefit to CS players – as listed above i.e. remains the same

Tier 2 – Gold VIP class (Gold plated character name)
Cost to CS players - $11.99 / month (50% more)
Benefits to CS players – additional benefits as compared to the non-VIP Players as follows
• 1200 Crystal received
• Additional permanent 75% character experience
• Additional permanent 75% pet experience
• Additional 3 AFK hours per day
• Additional 2 Green Dragon Coins and one Red Dragon coin per day
• Additional 4 attempts for each dungeons per day, increase chance of rare item drop rates by 50% (any difficulties level)
• Additional 10 extra well wishes per day
• Additional 1 Level 6 delivery Quest per day with no crystal payment required.
• One daily Gold Class gift (contains either 2x torches / 1xmorph crystal / 1x Dragon Crystal / shining gem coupon / 3 x soul shards)

Tier 3 – Platinum class VIP (Platinum plated character name)
Cost to CS players - $15.99 / month (100% more)
Benefits to CS players – additional benefits as compared to the non-VIP Players as follows
• 1600 Crystal received
• Additional permanent 100% character experience
• Additional permanent 100% pet experience
• Additional 4 AFK hours per day
• Additional 2 Green Dragon Coins, one Red Dragon and one black dragon coin per day
• Additional 4 attempts for each dungeons per day, increase chance of rate item drop rates by 100% (any difficulties level)
• Additional 10 extra well wishes per day, additional 2 special well wishes (with better drops chances for title shards and golden fruit of honor)
• Additional 1 Level 6 delivery Quest per day with no crystal payment required – no changes
• One daily Gold Class VIP gift (contains either 4x torches / 2x morph crystal / 2x Dragon Crystal / 2x shining gem coupons / 6x soul shards / 1x Greater MUT / 1x Ethereal wing)

Overall, the tier based VIP system will reward those players who will to contribute more for a better CS improvement system. If this is implemented, I probably go for the platinum directly!!
Give and you shall be given!
Cheers


Character: Nathanael Level 6x
Server: Tinosia Delta

[dalicana]

oh wait 1 more idea i just got. vip being vip you can actually chose which things you want active like lets say you dont do your coin toss dayly you onlly do 5. you can turn that off. and use maybe how people are wanting extra baths or ladder. the ladder giveing out more shards you can get 4 here but not throw into an imbalence. getting 2 extra shards a day from soul root crystal is not going to put things at an imballence. even with the 1.5 it takes none cash users time to lvl or there more slowly at lvl. saying dont give what 2 more shards going to throw it into an imballence is an incorrect statment. it give the vip the little 1.5 the need to stay ahead. i dont see any pain here so i am 100% for mor shards. but wont be bothered at all not to get them. as of the color of the vip and the monthly payments to make a ballence in vip would actually be better i think i would co to orange vip and pay more to get the extra stuff.

[dalicana]

the only thing i can think of this time to change for a vip. is in seed. where its like doing championbluffs seed you can choose which seed you can plant. thats it just removeing the random seed. just see a lot of ppl going to get seed plant and leave them. so giveing the option to chose which seed you want may help even if you have to put a price. exp. white jade 3g. it may seam high but the gold receved its well i guess more worth it. the think i like to see changed so far is the coin toss after the 5th toss when vip toss kick's in has a random % to cost 3 6 9 12 115 coins instead of just being 15. i know theres a few statement about things being cash players vs none cash player and keeping it in a even area ground. but i also see to where 7.99 a month is affordable to about any1 but children. so here is something i am going to toss for the childern who needs the extra drive. the day in vadiala. can give a 1 day free vip. where as if your lucky and get over 5 in one day you get 5 free day. i just think adding that will keep the ballence and make every1 happy so we dont have to hear about the game being out of ballence.

[mnsewerrat]

In my humble opinion, the current system is fine.
Of course, by opening the door and asking. "What should be changed?" you are going to get multiple responses of "Add more, more, more."

* Any additional benefits to the existing system should be given as a tradeoff to current benefits.
For example, adding an additional bath, training or redemption attempt, should remove one of the additional dungeon attempts.
* If additional benefits are given, they should be minimal to not throw off the balance of the game.
For example, if an increase in exp gain is given it should go from 1.5% to 1.6% or maybe 1.75% max.. or an increase in the hourly coupon gain from 2 to 2.25 or 2.5 max, so VIP members gain an extra coupon every 2 to 4 hours, not doubled as has been suggested.

I do, however, agree with the following suggestions already given.
* Switching the "VIP" designation to an optional title that can be changed if you choose to.
* The suggestions of a multitiered VIP system with additional benefits per tier/level with multitiered pricing. (either "white, green, blue..." or "bronze, silver, gold" as previously suggested)
* Adding the possibility to purchase VIP into the in-game Item Shop
* Adding the possibility to purchase different lengths of time for VIP rather than just the current 30 day.
Not only the shorter one day, three day or one week memberships as previously suggested, but longer 60 or 90 day, or even 6 month or one year VIP memberships, with discounts for purchasing additional time in advance.
For example (obviously R2 can work out their own pricing scheme): $7.99 for the current 30 day VIP, $14.99 for a 60 day VIP membership (~ $7.50/mo), $20.99 for a 90 day membership (~$7.00/mo), $39.99 for a 6 month membership (~$6.67/mo), $69.99 for a full year (~$5.83/mo), etc.


P.S.: Although, some players mentioned green dragon coins now available as a possible reward for Day in Vidalia quests, they fail to remember (or mention) that red dragon coins are also possible rewards in the green dragon hunt, and black in the red hunt. Changes to the additional green dragon coins given to VIPs are not necessary. The additional 2 chances every day to get something extra for nothing are sufficient.

Char: Silver
Server: Exenden Realm

[bakyu]

Wtb>>vip = gold message me............... The wilterlands server (s4)

[JyceFate]

and about the VIP 1 black coin 2 red and 3 green would be sick

[JyceFate]

What the hell was that its 11:00 pm and i just got dropped and for an hour all it was was DB NULL, and i cleaned everything cookies brower system reset i seriously dont know whats going on or why that happened

[BlackPendent]

i relly like the extra doungen runs on the current vip

[BlackPendent]

i think the new vip system should give more cyrstal

[AddzBaws]

There are some great suggestions here but I'd like to make a couple of notes/warnings to the devs.

You need to be really careful that you don't cross the pay to win line that so many other free to play games have crossed, so far you have done this well, but if you follow some of the suggestions here you will fall into the trap.

That means that anything involving extra soul shards for VIP players is out. Free players need to be able to keep on a level playing field with the vip players even if it does take them longer to get there. Giving VIP players extra soul shards and free players no way to keep up is a big no no.

Similarly anything that gives VIP players extra honor that the free players dont have access to is a big no no. This will make it nearly impossible for any free player to get the higher rankings/top ranks on their server. You almost crossed this line already with the extra wishing well chances so be careful with pushing it any more.

The 1.5x exp/extra afk time is not too bad. Free players can still keep up with the VIPs if they play smart, use their coupons well and pay attention to guild bonus times and seignor etc. However if you push this bonus up to 2x or more you might make the gap between vip and free players too far. Also extra exp is useless to VIP members who are already max level.


Good ideas so far:

Things that become cheaper for VIP players but are still grind-able for free players in the game, cheaper wing/mount upgrades, extra stars, extra enchant chance.

The vip lounge area is also a good idea, maybe after the current event use the central starglade map as a place where vip members can all hangout and just chill or duel each other.

Extra storage tab, this is very handy for VIP Players but wont change the power balance in the game.

Clothing/ appearance options, anything that can make a player look different and stand out without effecting the power balance is also a good idea.

I hope this helps you guys make your decision



Character: Addz
Server: The Necropolis (S32)

[tasmak1]

i agree w/ wat d majority said.. x2 char/pet xpi insted of 1.5 additonl vault run ect.. but wat i wud really want is to have an option whether on not, we wnt to show the VIP stats on our heads its really pissing me offf.... plsss GM can u?? like add VIP as a title so we can turn it off or not dpends on d user ^^

[squatog]

aside from this:
http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....l=1#post182291

we can also include VIP Room wherein you can do all the events like seng, GR, tamalan, survival of the fittest and the likes that is always open but will use your daily attemp some of us are having difficulty in trying to participate for we lack time or we are at work, school, appointment. this is to eliminate those burden and would not mind the time zone differences.

this is just in addition to the VIP system that i mentioned.

[luffydono]

xtra bronze badges
silver badges
vaults run
soul shards
dragon red black n green +2 each
sellable bounds items

[rudym1190]

how bout when you have VIP repairing your items is cheaper like 50% discount on repairs?


Angel island

ZoSo

[LiLStorm]

i like to see VIP's able to do 2 ladders per day instead of 1 an 3 red dragon coins instead of green dragon coins an change 1.5x xp to 2x xp would be nice maybe give us an xtra seed to plant daily