[Insight Guide] Mount Fusion Advanced

[R2349858]

Thats simply because she followed your way of making the Turtle the primary mount instead of the kyubi lol,
It proves nothing and read the bottom part that i've written:
http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....Advanced/page4
The long one, forget about the "Your way" part to the calculations, just read the top part. It explains everything you need to know behind why you think it's green + green.
Nothing has changed over the time, it's just people fusing mounts wrong (Like the post BlazingAngel created) If you gave me 1k mount fusion orbs i'd gladly show you every single step from Gen 0 to Gen 3.
This still works and will only work because r2 has a rule of 40% of the WHITE STATS.
Apoloyomi has tested it already and she has seen the flaw to it and that's why she's supported what i've said lol, Green + green does not work man..
If that was the case, when you're fusing 2 Gen 2 mounts,
You think it's gonna give you 100% + 100% player hp? It can't just be for Gen 2 fusions and not Gen 3, come on.. think man.
I've already created my gen 2 kyubi and it's there as proof, and if you think it's weaker than the picture of the "pure bread" one then look closely lol..
If that mount was stronger, why would it only be stronger in attack and hp and not overall eg healing is exactly the same as mine? Because the secondary kyubi he used was fed through mount food. Everyone who has had experience mount fusing would tell you the same thing.
You're trying to support a statement with a theory thats already been proved wrong bro.. Just accept it lol
Or like i said in the above, ask ShadowGama to create the fusion i've already given in the template. It's that simple.

No she tested this:

-Fuse: Kilin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
-Fuse: Killin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
-Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

You will get the same stats as if you fused:

-Fuse: Kilin + Kilin = Kilin gen 1
-Fuse: Killin + Turtle(weakest mount) = Kilin gen 1
-Fuse: Kilin gen1 + Kilin gen 1 = Gen 2 Kilin

Kinda tired going back and forth with you about same thing over and over, so I will not be replying anymore, enjoy your game.

[LadyJo]

Thats simply because she followed your way of making the Turtle the primary mount instead of the kyubi lol,
It proves nothing and read the bottom part that i've written:
http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....Advanced/page4
The long one, forget about the "Your way" part to the calculations, just read the top part. It explains everything you need to know behind why you think it's green + green.
Nothing has changed over the time, it's just people fusing mounts wrong (Like the post BlazingAngel created) If you gave me 1k mount fusion orbs i'd gladly show you every single step from Gen 0 to Gen 3.
This still works and will only work because r2 has a rule of 40% of the WHITE STATS.
Apoloyomi has tested it already and she has seen the flaw to it and that's why she's supported what i've said lol, Green + green does not work man..
If that was the case, when you're fusing 2 Gen 2 mounts,
You think it's gonna give you 100% + 100% player hp? It can't just be for Gen 2 fusions and not Gen 3, come on.. think man.
I've already created my gen 2 kyubi and it's there as proof, and if you think it's weaker than the picture of the "pure bread" one then look closely lol..
If that mount was stronger, why would it only be stronger in attack and hp and not overall eg healing is exactly the same as mine? Because the secondary kyubi he used was fed through mount food. Everyone who has had experience mount fusing would tell you the same thing.
You're trying to support a statement with a theory thats already been proved wrong bro.. Just accept it lol
Or like i said in the above, ask ShadowGama to create the fusion i've already given in the template. It's that simple.

[R2349858]

it don't add... look at what Apo has said. reason it looks like it does add with a Gen2 is because it is 40% either way when making a Gen2 using 4 Kyubis. she even show above how it works, and why it would show it adds, but it dont, it take 40% from white. If green add then the Gen3 would of added too, it did not....Apo even a formular showing how much it took from white when making a Gen3..... its not hard to see what is being said.

I know what shes saying, are you saying just because she put it on that image proved by nothing it will work like that? If you go on start of the thread I even said the same thing as Lady Jo about using turtle as secondary mount for your secondary gen 1 Kyubi.

But then....




BlazingAngel proved me wrong, Apoloymi even agreed with her that it's not white stats that transfer but green + green add together. It can't work both ways.

Edit: http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....Advanced/page2 just in case that image is too little, just scroll down a little you will find BlazingAngels tests and what I'm talking about. (You can also right click on the image and open image in new tab if you using comodo/chrome)

[max31]

It's as stressful as you make it to be. I did read that, she changed her theory to match with yours now for whatever reason. There's no logic in what you two are saying. 1 formula can't work for pure breed and other formula for when its not a pure breed. It's either green + green add up (proved by BlazingAngel) or it's 40% or whatever % of white stats of secondary gen 1 mount added to green stats of main gen 1 mount (this is how it worked for me but this was almost a year ago, I don't have spare items to confirm this now). But there's BlazingAngels screenshots that prove that that theory is wrong also there's screenshots that prove that you can't use lvl0 turtle as your secondary mount for your secondary gen 1 mount because green stats of your secondary gen 1 mount add to your main gen 1 mount and white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount aren't important (that's the part you disagree with). In my opinion the proper way should be 40% of both white and green stats from your secondary gen 1 mount added to green stats of your main gen 1 mount, same for when you fusing for gen 3, but what do I know? Anyway like I said I already got all the info I needed from this thread so I would just like to know if fusing working as intended or not? Nothing else.

it don't add... look at what Apo has said. reason it looks like it does add with a Gen2 is because it is 40% either way when making a Gen2 using 4 Kyubis. she even show above how it works, and why it would show it adds, but it dont, it take 40% from white. If green add then the Gen3 would of added too, it did not....Apo even a formular showing how much it took from white when making a Gen3..... its not hard to see what is being said.

[R2349858]

You're making things stressful.. You're not even reading what Apolo says, http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....56#post1374556
Read this post, you'll understand clearly whats happening, she's not stating green + green now lol
She has actually said "40% (whatever %) of the white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount added to main gen 1 green stats. "

I came here late xD Sorry! Too much switching

It's as stressful as you make it to be. I did read that, she changed her theory to match with yours now for whatever reason. There's no logic in what you two are saying. 1 formula can't work for pure breed and other formula for when its not a pure breed. It's either green + green add up (proved by BlazingAngel) or it's 40% or whatever % of white stats of secondary gen 1 mount added to green stats of main gen 1 mount (this is how it worked for me but this was almost a year ago, I don't have spare items to confirm this now). But there's BlazingAngels screenshots that prove that that theory is wrong also there's screenshots that prove that you can't use lvl0 turtle as your secondary mount for your secondary gen 1 mount because green stats of your secondary gen 1 mount add to your main gen 1 mount and white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount aren't important (that's the part you disagree with). In my opinion the proper way should be 40% of both white and green stats from your secondary gen 1 mount added to green stats of your main gen 1 mount, same for when you fusing for gen 3, but what do I know? Anyway like I said I already got all the info I needed from this thread so I would just like to know if fusing working as intended or not? Nothing else.

[LadyJo]

Sure you can fuse using both ways but one way will mess up your mount and other won't.

Because if the white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount are important when you use lvl 1 turtle as your main secondary gen 1 mount it will mess up your mount because you will only get 0.something% added to your main gen 1 mount. The two theories are completely different and there's no way it can work both ways. Its either green stats of main gen 1 mount + green stats of secondary gen 1 mount or 40% (whatever %) of the white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount added to main gen 1 green stats.

You're making things stressful.. You're not even reading what Apolo says, http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....56#post1374556
Read this post, you'll understand clearly whats happening, she's not stating green + green now lol
She has actually said "40% (whatever %) of the white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount added to main gen 1 green stats. "

I came here late xD Sorry! Too much switching

[Reverie]

[Thread merged]

[R2349858]

Sure...Done with this now, got all the info I need. Back to my original question... If some of the moderators can get confirmation from devs or GMSs if the fusing is working as intended or its bugged?

[Apoloymi]

The reason a Gen1 Fox and a Gen1 Fox (Pure) green adds together is because it IS 40% of the white stats already. If it take the 40% off the white the result of the Gen2 will be the same, if the green add the result is the same on a Pure Bread because it is 40% either way. let me show you



The formula LadyJo has set out shows you how to make a Half Bread with the results if not close too.

[LadyJo]

Last 1 month? Nah, i asked ShadowGamma to try it, he tried yours and look how that ended up xD
and BlazingAngel proved hers wrong actually, like i've stated before, i even showed what happen in each step to get the end of the result but the only problem was it was 52% instead of 40% did you see that too?
Like i said it was r2s idea of maths.

[R2349858]

"Turtle lvl0 (primary) + Kyubi lvl 20 (secondary) = Gen 1 turle lvl0 (secondary gen 1 mount) lvl0 turtle as primary because with your theory white stats of secondary gen 1 mount don't matter because green stats of secondary gen1 mount will add to green stats of main gen 1 mount."
Both of mine and apoloys say white stats are what matters on a secondary, we said that green stats are what doesn't matter. What would be the point of feeding mounts if what you said was correct?

None of these theories mess up your mount, it's pretty much the same thing and it isn't different, it's just her wording and mine are different.

Another disadvantage of having 2 threads discussing same thing is I have to go back and forth...

But clearly you can't read or you read only what you want to see, because if you actually read what Apoloymi said she clearly stated that green stats of secondary gen 1 mount add to green stat of main gen 1 mount. Not sure in what language that means that green stat don't matter...

[R2349858]

R2349858
ShaddowGamma already tested your theory and it's wrong, the guide i placed has been used throughout and it is not dated as you said lol..
If you disagree, ask Shadow to test my theory and you will see the outcome.
Your flaw in your theory is that you're using a turtle as a primary? Whyyy would you do that? Do you believe that green stats just fuse together lol?
Well.. I've said it every single time throughout..
Go back to Gen 0 Mounts
It's:
~Primary~ Kyubi + ~Secondary~ Kyubi = Kyubi Gen 1 right? Thats because 40% of the white stats from the secondary transfer to the primary. You see magical green stats anywhere on the unfused secondary kyubi?
Lol.. think about it.
I understand what you're trying to do here, but it's simply wrong and does not work.

"Kybui lvl20 + Kyubi lvl 20 = Gen 1 Kyubi lvl20

Turtle lvl0 + Kyubi lvl 20 = Gen 1 turle lvl0 (at this point I have 2 gen 1 mounts)" You need to switch it to make this actually work

BlazingAngels tests proved your theory wrong many times. Do you have screenshots of any gen 2 mounts done with your way within last 1 month?

[LadyJo]

"Turtle lvl0 (primary) + Kyubi lvl 20 (secondary) = Gen 1 turle lvl0 (secondary gen 1 mount) lvl0 turtle as primary because with your theory white stats of secondary gen 1 mount don't matter because green stats of secondary gen1 mount will add to green stats of main gen 1 mount."
Both of mine and apoloys say white stats are what matters on a secondary, we said that green stats are what doesn't matter. What would be the point of feeding mounts if what you said was correct?

None of these theories mess up your mount, it's pretty much the same thing and it isn't different, it's just her wording and mine are different.

[LadyJo]

R2349858
ShaddowGamma already tested your theory and it's wrong, the guide i placed has been used throughout and it is not dated as you said lol..
If you disagree, ask Shadow to test my theory and you will see the outcome.
Your flaw in your theory is that you're using a turtle as a primary? Whyyy would you do that? Do you believe that green stats just fuse together lol?
Well.. I've said it every single time throughout..
Go back to Gen 0 Mounts
It's:
~Primary~ Kyubi + ~Secondary~ Kyubi = Kyubi Gen 1 right? Thats because 40% of the white stats from the secondary transfer to the primary. You see magical green stats anywhere on the unfused secondary kyubi?
Lol.. think about it.
I understand what you're trying to do here, but it's simply wrong and does not work.

"Kybui lvl20 + Kyubi lvl 20 = Gen 1 Kyubi lvl20

Turtle lvl0 + Kyubi lvl 20 = Gen 1 turle lvl0 (at this point I have 2 gen 1 mounts)" You need to switch it to make this actually work

[R2349858]

Ok the one I wrote out is for a 100% pure bread Gen3 Kyubi using 8 Kyubis, LadyJo's way is again making a Gen3 Kyubi but a quicker and cheaper form....ironically BOTH ways work. That is whats hard to get around, both are correct.

Also there isn't going to be arguments and stuff, I have done the maths and the fusing. You can do try both ways and see the out come, you will actually get the same out come.

Sure you can fuse using both ways but one way will mess up your mount and other won't.

Because if the white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount are important when you use lvl 1 turtle as your main secondary gen 1 mount it will mess up your mount because you will only get 0.something% added to your main gen 1 mount. The two theories are completely different and there's no way it can work both ways. Its either green stats of main gen 1 mount + green stats of secondary gen 1 mount or 40% (whatever %) of the white stats of your secondary gen 1 mount added to main gen 1 green stats.