Rogues and Dodge above 101%

[Zenzibar]

generally agility each 150 give 3%
but ok i'll keep up with u and here is a picture of higher tenet buffed and boled

100% 8k dodge,,, 3.3 k agility
and this guy got 10% dodge from his aguric frag ... it means his dodge is 90% ...... so how the hell someone with less stats and less weapon gets 94% ....
and till now, no answer. All i see is assumptions .....

[(S58)Smokeweed420]

generally agility each 150 give 3%
but ok i'll keep up with u and here is a picture of higher tenet buffed and boled
[ATTACH=CONFIG]72123[/ATTACH]
100% 8k dodge,,, 3.3 k agility
and this guy got 10% dodge from his aguric frag ... it means his dodge is 90% ...... so how the hell someone with less stats and less weapon gets 94% ....
and till now, no answer. All i see is assumptions .....

this is stat with buff and seal broken ?

[Zenzibar]

both without buffs , as i said with buffs the other guy make 104% .... but if u add aguric to that dude ... his dodge will be 114% -_- its silly i just feel like 7 years old child evading 20 years old karate dude's kicks

[Betcha715]

generally agility each 150 give 3%
but ok i'll keep up with u and here is a picture of higher tenet buffed and boled
[ATTACH=CONFIG]72123[/ATTACH]
100% 8k dodge,,, 3.3 k agility
and this guy got 10% dodge from his aguric frag ... it means his dodge is 90% ...... so how the hell someone with less stats and less weapon gets 94% ....
and till now, no answer. All i see is assumptions .....

Actually your question has been answered by many people, I don't know why you still can't get it, as they all said, as you level up, dodge amount needed for you to raise dodge% INCREASES, for instance, as the character levels up, his dodge % decreases. Probably when you and that guy you're talking about who has higher dodge than you have SAME level, the scenario would be different.

[Murcielago88]

soul does not contain dodge% , it got agility only
it seem i get your point , but not sure of it . and for sb BOL we all have bol except the picture on the right , that he didn't use bol the moment i snipped his stats. well lets wait him to be eidolon, if his stats didn't decrease then that theory is myth
100% dodge rate got by lvl 143 eidolon and he got supreme aguric frag

agi increase hit dodge and crit rate. so therefore having a large gap in soul completion = more dodge. you really dont understand the game feature too well lol

[Zenzibar]

Actually your question has been answered by many people, I don't know why you still can't get it, as they all said, as you level up, dodge amount needed for you to raise dodge% INCREASES, for instance, as the character levels up, his dodge % decreases. Probably when you and that guy you're talking about who has higher dodge than you have SAME level, the scenario would be different.

well, you presumed that i don't get the game features,,,, lets hear from u , what is the difference between the Dodge and the Dodge %rate .... and what is the relation between them
and "murcielago88" said large gap of soul = more dodge ,,,, yes my soul is higher than him ... also the other players have soul higher than him ..... SO HE GOT DODGE RATE HIGHER THAN US?

focus again please : tenet higher then him, soul higher than him , dodge higher than him ..... but dodge rate hes higher than all .... ! also there are rogue scions same his level not sure about tenets but they got dodge rate lower than us where i consider it logical


and the answer that am looking for should become from someone who did that trick .... like hey zenzibar [if u are a rogue scion, don't be eidolon,,, its a TRAAAP]

[Insanity]

The lower your level is the less dodge rating you need to increase your dodge. As you level up you need more rating to make a difference. When I went to eidolon my dodge went from 85% to 140%+ because I was level 1. Dodge% is the chance to dodge. Dodge rating is how much dodge points you have from your agility. Dodge rating affects dodge chance. If your souls. 500 levels than him but he maxed all his agility like I did then his dodge will be higher than you. Go veiw Tails he has much more agility and dodge rating but since he is 150 his dodge rate is 120% ish unbuffed ( I think).... at scion level 100 with all level 10 void souls and a 400 soul I had 85% dodge with superior frag V and seal broken 3. Edit...Zenith son and punisher O,o????? ( estimated guess )

[Kanyo]

Dodge smodge. Knights rule. Carry on

[vastilos]

What if he had a few seals of evil from heraldry?

[MisterCuddles]

He is not referring to agility only dodge % , most likely the reason is the player in question is about 45 lvls lower , so can have more dodge with much less agility/ dodge stat.
Test it go make a lv20 rogue full agi , then make it lv30 even full agi it will lose dodge as you lvl it up. Thats where you need soul to balance the loss as your lvling.

[Zenzibar]

What if he had a few seals of evil from heraldry?

no seals of heraldry , because he got tenets ,, and heraldry give 400 agi.... and even if he got ... the increasing is agility ... and we all got more agility ... now if u go and see other scions same his level.... but much less dodge rate !!! and much less hit rate also !!!

[Zenzibar]

He is not referring to agility only dodge % , most likely the reason is the player in question is about 45 lvls lower , so can have more dodge with much less agility/ dodge stat.
Test it go make a lv20 rogue full agi , then make it lv30 even full agi it will lose dodge as you lvl it up. Thats where you need soul to balance the loss as your lvling.

so if that is true what u say ..... the mortal rogue will be GOD himself ...... we got low level rogues with tenets also does not have that comparison ... that "cause" is invalid am afraid

are we trying to share a point where leveling up getting u weaker??? where is the logic ?

[Zenzibar]

The lower your level is the less dodge rating you need to increase your dodge. As you level up you need more rating to make a difference. When I went to eidolon my dodge went from 85% to 140%+ because I was level 1. Dodge% is the chance to dodge. Dodge rating is how much dodge points you have from your agility. Dodge rating affects dodge chance. If your souls. 500 levels than him but he maxed all his agility like I did then his dodge will be higher than you. Go veiw Tails he has much more agility and dodge rating but since he is 150 his dodge rate is 120% ish unbuffed ( I think).... at scion level 100 with all level 10 void souls and a 400 soul I had 85% dodge with superior frag V and seal broken 3. Edit...Zenith son and punisher O,o????? ( estimated guess )

if that is true,,, then R2 need to limit the tenet by the level ... otherwise as i said mortal rogue will obtain 200% dodge rating if he max tenets , 3 of these mortals and ....... the server will be ruined totally

[Insanity]

if that is true,,, then R2 need to limit the tenet by the level ... otherwise as i said mortal rogue will obtain 200% dodge rating if he max tenets , 3 of these mortals and ....... the server will be ruined totally

XD I was thinking of making a alt rogue level 40 eido after maxing all tenets souls and frag to see how high my dodge gets lol. And 200% dodge and enough dps makes you semi immortal but the max dodge I've seen was 120% unbuffed but on a level 150 so its possible to get 200%... maybe, 41shots has like 100% hit rating without slayers but if someone had 150% hit they would win even if her wings activate ( vagabonds gives 50% and max sperion is another 50% ) lol. Edit. A mortal rogue level 40 would have less dodge than a eido 40. With max soul max tenets and full agility at level 40 you would probably have 12k agility without buffs or promethian wings o,o if that gives even 80% dodge then you get 10% from frag 10% from skil and 15% with bol sb that's only 115% dodge but if they are buffed and their wings activate they could go past 200% because their agility is increased by like 4x for 10 seconds ( if I remember ) o,o.oh and tenets gives less dodge than heraldy

[DeadMaster]

You guys tell me you reached edo 150 without noticing that level makes a lot of difference? I was stuck on lvl 140 for many months because i know my dodge % rating will go down. However there are new ways of getting high dodge now. Also, one of the many things i have avoided for the longest time was upping my strength as i was scared that my dodge would go down. These are the two main things you should always keep in mind LVL + Strength. Though now i have found a way to balance everything out. Check out my toon un-buffed i have about 126% & buffed 129%. This will just keep going up after i'm done with my upgrades.