Rogues and Dodge above 101%

[Sylvantia]

Lol, Still so Butt hurt from Losing in HS?

[Zenzibar]

should i say shut up glitcher? lucky you are. R2 cannot fix that error ..... damn people who are exploiting the game errors, always think they are the best (or pro) .... go learn the word "fair" , or take private lessons LOL

[Zenzibar]

You guys tell me you reached edo 150 without noticing that level makes a lot of difference? I was stuck on lvl 140 for many months because i know my dodge % rating will go down. However there are new ways of getting high dodge now. Also, one of the many things i have avoided for the longest time was upping my strength as i was scared that my dodge would go down. These are the two main things you should always keep in mind LVL + Strength. Though now i have found a way to balance everything out. Check out my toon un-buffed i have about 126% & buffed 129%. This will just keep going up after i'm done with my upgrades.

man ,,, ppl are not getting this?
The Game Is glitched !!!! again (mortal level 100 with maxed tenets is much much stronger than Eidolon level 100 maxed tenets)
and that above 2 lines called sylvantia is one of the exploiters but R2 just watching , not even moving a finger to at least remove that balance

[MisterCuddles]

man ,,, ppl are not getting this?
The Game Is glitched !!!! again (mortal level 100 with maxed tenets is much much stronger than Eidolon level 100 maxed tenets)
and that above 2 lines called sylvantia is one of the exploiters but R2 just watching , not even moving a finger to at least remove that balance

I am pretty sure lv100 eidolon should normally 1 hit lv100 mortal.
Unless maybe you need a sands of time or arc to fix whatever is wrong with the eidolon.
Just the additional skills and skill points should make the eidolon much stronger without even considering the extra stats points.

[DeadMaster]

man ,,, ppl are not getting this?
The Game Is glitched !!!! again (mortal level 100 with maxed tenets is much much stronger than Eidolon level 100 maxed tenets)
and that above 2 lines called sylvantia is one of the exploiters but R2 just watching , not even moving a finger to at least remove that balance

Sorry not getting the point you are trying to show across the board.

I don't think game is glitched, just know how to keep your dodge/dodge % high. As stated by MisterCuddles, there are skills that a mortal can't get which in my opinion is a game changer(PVP wise). Dodge is not everything, but it is rogues main defense so keeping it up is a must if you don't want to die quick VS other OP toons. Secondly, knowing when to strike and how to use your toon is key to winning pvp.

Maybe if you elaborate what you mean when u say "glitched/bugged" you would have a better answer. If you think Mortal is stronger than Edo then who is stopping you from leveling to pawn all the edo that are weak compared to the mortal you are talking about. How can you prove what you are using as an example is even relevant when you yourself don't have max tenet in your character & all of these are just speculations?

[Neon_]

It's all paranoid speculation with him. You should see him in world chat. Everyone is some form of scammer, cheater, or glitcher...

[maestropain]

So, having read the comments above; I have to say that Moderator Cuddles was correct with his statement that Dodge % goes down the higher level you are. It doesn't mean that you're weaker though.

Lets make this equation so you can better understand it. You have three Rogues - One level 80 Mortal Rogue, One level 80 Scion Rogue and One level 80 Eidolon Rogue. All have same Tenets, Soul, Gear, Enchant levels, Heraldry, Devine Souls, Wings, Mount, Fruit systems, Monsters Handbook, Guild Skill, ( May have missed a few bits out - but you get what I mean). Now the level 80 Eidolon Rogue will have More Dodge but less dodge % than the level 80 Mortal or level 80 Scion Rogue, Same goes for the level 80 Scion Rogue - it also will have more Dodge than the level 80 Mortal Rogue but will have less Dodge % than the level 80 Rogue.

So, conclusion is, the higher level the Rogue the less Dodge % he will have. The only way to have more Dodge % is to work harder on upgrading certain systems in the game. But, again, if in your case the Scion Rogue does the same thing then he will most likely always have a higher Dodge %.

As for you saying that it isn't fair etc - You seem to have failed to remember that Eidolons get much better skills than that of a Scion or Mortal. Therefore your claim it's unfair is rather void. And if you can't kill a scion Rogue as a Eidolon then I suggest you really need to look at your character as something is seriously wrong with it.

Hope that clarified and made it clearer for you. ^_^

[(S1)4Heals]

I agree completely, Eidolon rogue is more OP than scion or mortal even if the lower plane has more dodge %.
Unless your doing something wrong XD

[Zenzibar]

So, having read the comments above; I have to say that Moderator Cuddles was correct with his statement that Dodge % goes down the higher level you are. It doesn't mean that you're weaker though.

Lets make this equation so you can better understand it. You have three Rogues - One level 80 Mortal Rogue, One level 80 Scion Rogue and One level 80 Eidolon Rogue. All have same Tenets, Soul, Gear, Enchant levels, Heraldry, Devine Souls, Wings, Mount, Fruit systems, Monsters Handbook, Guild Skill, ( May have missed a few bits out - but you get what I mean). Now the level 80 Eidolon Rogue will have More Dodge but less dodge % than the level 80 Mortal or level 80 Scion Rogue, Same goes for the level 80 Scion Rogue - it also will have more Dodge than the level 80 Mortal Rogue but will have less Dodge % than the level 80 Rogue.

So, conclusion is, the higher level the Rogue the less Dodge % he will have. The only way to have more Dodge % is to work harder on upgrading certain systems in the game. But, again, if in your case the Scion Rogue does the same thing then he will most likely always have a higher Dodge %.

As for you saying that it isn't fair etc - You seem to have failed to remember that Eidolons get much better skills than that of a Scion or Mortal. Therefore your claim it's unfair is rather void. And if you can't kill a scion Rogue as a Eidolon then I suggest you really need to look at your character as something is seriously wrong with it.

Hope that clarified and made it clearer for you. ^_^

its weaker ,,, definitely it is ... go try yourself

[Zenzibar]

I agree completely, Eidolon rogue is more OP than scion or mortal even if the lower plane has more dodge %.
Unless your doing something wrong XD

like hell storm , that scion can hit me while my vagabond is ON ,,, and using all titan equipment and my dodge is over 104% + vagabond rate
and that scions hit rate is 75% !!!!!!
agree? go see yourself then decide to agree or not

[Zenzibar]

So, having read the comments above; I have to say that Moderator Cuddles was correct with his statement that Dodge % goes down the higher level you are. It doesn't mean that you're weaker though.

Lets make this equation so you can better understand it. You have three Rogues - One level 80 Mortal Rogue, One level 80 Scion Rogue and One level 80 Eidolon Rogue. All have same Tenets, Soul, Gear, Enchant levels, Heraldry, Devine Souls, Wings, Mount, Fruit systems, Monsters Handbook, Guild Skill, ( May have missed a few bits out - but you get what I mean). Now the level 80 Eidolon Rogue will have More Dodge but less dodge % than the level 80 Mortal or level 80 Scion Rogue, Same goes for the level 80 Scion Rogue - it also will have more Dodge than the level 80 Mortal Rogue but will have less Dodge % than the level 80 Rogue.

So, conclusion is, the higher level the Rogue the less Dodge % he will have. The only way to have more Dodge % is to work harder on upgrading certain systems in the game. But, again, if in your case the Scion Rogue does the same thing then he will most likely always have a higher Dodge %.

As for you saying that it isn't fair etc - You seem to have failed to remember that Eidolons get much better skills than that of a Scion or Mortal. Therefore your claim it's unfair is rather void. And if you can't kill a scion Rogue as a Eidolon then I suggest you really need to look at your character as something is seriously wrong with it.

Hope that clarified and made it clearer for you. ^_^

yes skills of eidolong gives u (venom (depend on hit) , gives netheron blast (depend on hit), Queens blade (depends on hit)) <<=== all these skills are dodgable
dude please focus what the mod. says .... each plane have cap on stats ,,, that means if u exceed that cap . the result is (OP) , max cap 1000 agility . tenets make u 1200 then ur dodge gets over 100% . as well as hit rate .
max cap eidolon 8000 agi ,, tenet gives same amount .... then your agi will not exceed 4000 so the ratio will keep under 80%
then the higher % is the lower plane because it got the lower cap .
the higher max(plane dependent)/actual = % rating
then according to that which 100% apply on the game .... the mortal will rule them all

[Zenzibar]

I am pretty sure lv100 eidolon should normally 1 hit lv100 mortal.
Unless maybe you need a sands of time or arc to fix whatever is wrong with the eidolon.
Just the additional skills and skill points should make the eidolon much stronger without even considering the extra stats points.

excuse me sir , i agree with u on basic stats will one hit the mortal ...... [the mortal can dodge that and hit back with 80k and 75% hit rate] now plz tell me how the eidolon will avoid it ,
i showed pictures and inside the game there are many examples. please watch it , or go in the server to see with yourself .
thanks

[maestropain]

excuse me sir , i agree with u on basic stats will one hit the mortal ...... [the mortal can dodge that and hit back with 80k and 75% hit rate] now plz tell me how the eidolon will avoid it ,
i showed pictures and inside the game there are many examples. please watch it , or go in the server to see with yourself .
thanks

If your a Eidolon and have under 200k HP especially at your level then your doing something wrong.

[Zenzibar]

If your a Eidolon and have under 200k HP especially at your level then your doing something wrong.

again we come to the something wrong ,,,,,, dude a rogue with ranger hit rate !!! ? a rogue in scion (low agility ) have dodge (%) higher than eidolon (higher agility) ?
my skill passive got max dodge % ,,,, i got more points in skills ,, i know that [don't rush about skill tree got wrong]
soul does not give dodge % ,, it give agility and i stated that eidolon got high agility than that scion [don't say soul give dodge]
equipment , both got slayer [don't say enchanting , because enchanting even if there is +20 , it does not give high % change]

his hit and dodge (%) are higher , go see the picture again ,,, u think its Photoshop go inside the server and see yourself , but everyone is blinding himself . and dimming this case over

[Zenzibar]

If your a Eidolon and have under 200k HP especially at your level then your doing something wrong.

see again , that picture without blessing of light


so if my argument is wrong according to all admins and mods,,,,, then its some sort of hack , as the ppl stated before .... THE STATS HACK.
and my argument is right about cap, then indeed scion are much stronger than eidolon for sake of (tenet using)