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Originally posted by TheVictoriousIs this "soon" like additional spot in farm or homestead? :POriginally posted by PunkPetalDid same to me, is embarrassing when u tthrow everything but the kitchen sink, and they sit casting rofOriginally posted by EdGrrA life of frustration is inevitable for any player whose main enjoyment is winning and staying at the top.
Guild: #1 European Mighty Guild KINGSoKong
Server: Kongregate Europe 3 a.k.a Kong S5
Class: Mage
Currect Br: 61????
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Originally posted by DanteMugetsu View Postmate u miss my point, the definition of 1shot inclines that if u have full hp after a certain skill you will die, (probably ulti). i was full life with -30% curse with 267k hp and i got killed from ulti 269k at 50%. so my opponent 1shotted me..
lets give the same scenario you gave us: enemy has 65k atk and you have -30% debuff. do you think he wouldnt "1-shot" you with other sylph's delphic of the same quality?
yes, i understand you just giving an example that there is someone who could "1-shot" knights in full HP with their gaia's delphic. but back to what i said: a) completely situational, and b) it could be done with any other sylph in same condition.
heck, you dont even need a delphic or matk sylph to 1-hit knight in full hp if you have correct situation to do it. (timer damage multiplier, elemental resistance, buffs and debuffs, etc.)Originally posted by Wraithraiser
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Originally posted by Arlad View Postim totally think you are the one missing the point. all the theories you gave are very situational.
lets give the same scenario you gave us: enemy has 65k atk and you have -30% debuff. do you think he wouldnt "1-shot" you with other sylph's delphic of the same quality?
yes, i understand you just giving an example that there is someone who could "1-shot" knights in full HP with their gaia's delphic. but back to what i said: a) completely situational, and b) it could be done with any other sylph in same condition.
heck, you dont even need a delphic or matk sylph to 1-hit knight in full hp if you have correct situation to do it. (timer damage multiplier, elemental resistance, buffs and debuffs, etc.)Originally posted by TheVictoriousIs this "soon" like additional spot in farm or homestead? :POriginally posted by PunkPetalDid same to me, is embarrassing when u tthrow everything but the kitchen sink, and they sit casting rofOriginally posted by EdGrrA life of frustration is inevitable for any player whose main enjoyment is winning and staying at the top.
Guild: #1 European Mighty Guild KINGSoKong
Server: Kongregate Europe 3 a.k.a Kong S5
Class: Mage
Currect Br: 61????
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delete this one please :POriginally posted by TheVictoriousIs this "soon" like additional spot in farm or homestead? :POriginally posted by PunkPetalDid same to me, is embarrassing when u tthrow everything but the kitchen sink, and they sit casting rofOriginally posted by EdGrrA life of frustration is inevitable for any player whose main enjoyment is winning and staying at the top.
Guild: #1 European Mighty Guild KINGSoKong
Server: Kongregate Europe 3 a.k.a Kong S5
Class: Mage
Currect Br: 61????
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Originally posted by DanteMugetsu View Posta)no other sylph has -30% curse ,
b) no other sylph has 470% delph
and like what i said on my previous post, given correct conditions even the most basic skill can "1-shot" a knight with full HP.
and of course in top end players oneshot needs more than one things to be achieved so its situational as you like to call it. so i dont think i am missing any point mate, i answer directly to my friend lazydazy that 1shot is possible, since i have experienced it 1st hand.
is 1 shot possible ? yes. but did he lie about his statement? there are no evidence on that.
now, we keep using knight as target example. what will happen if the same condition applied when facing an archer or a mage? do you really think that they will survive the scenario you mentioned?Originally posted by Wraithraiser
Welcome to R2 forums. Where quality is nonexistent and quantity is only measured in the number of whines a single day can produce.
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Originally posted by DanteMugetsu View Postmy answer was to lazydazy when he said that he didnt meet anyone that could oneshot him, i am not bashing knights or whatever, all i said is that gaia's ulti 470%if i remember correct + the freaking -30% curse is the highest damage single target combination. no i dont think any other sylph would oneshot me a)no other sylph has -30% curse , b) no other sylph has 470% delph, and of course in top end players oneshot needs more than one things to be achieved so its situational as you like to call it. so i dont think i am missing any point mate, i answer directly to my friend lazydazy that 1shot is possible, since i have experienced it 1st hand.
For u my 1-shot is reply to
"You most probably havent reached the top levels where archers one shot knights by hercules easily"
I meant by above statement , it didn't mention Ulti or Delphic or Apolo or Rain dance :PIGN: Kittylation
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Originally posted by DanteMugetsu View Postmy answer was to lazydazy when he said that he didnt meet anyone that could oneshot him, i am not bashing knights or whatever, all i said is that gaia's ulti 470%if i remember correct + the freaking -30% curse is the highest damage single target combination. no i dont think any other sylph would oneshot me a)no other sylph has -30% curse , b) no other sylph has 470% delph, and of course in top end players oneshot needs more than one things to be achieved so its situational as you like to call it. so i dont think i am missing any point mate, i answer directly to my friend lazydazy that 1shot is possible, since i have experienced it 1st hand.
For u my 1-shot is reply to
"You most probably havent reached the top levels where archers one shot knights by hercules easily"
I meant by above statement , it didn't mention Ulti or Delphic or Apolo or Rain dance :PIGN: Kittylation
Server: Miniclip
Br: Never Fixed
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Originally posted by Arlad View Postbut there are other sylphs with +20/30% damage buffs. which one do you think is more effective, 30% on 65k attack or -30% on enemy's 28k def?
yes, but the other attack oriented sylph, Amazon has 440% which is close enough. also it can hit 2 targets whereas gaia's can only hit 1.
and like what i said on my previous post, given correct conditions even the most basic skill can "1-shot" a knight with full HP.
ah this again. reminder that he said that no one has 1-shot HIM, not you. and your example weren't even really "1shot". or should i make another metaphor on your idea of "1shot"?
is 1 shot possible ? yes. but did he lie about his statement? there are no evidence on that.
now, we keep using knight as target example. what will happen if the same condition applied when facing an archer or a mage? do you really think that they will survive the scenario you mentioned?Originally posted by TheVictoriousIs this "soon" like additional spot in farm or homestead? :POriginally posted by PunkPetalDid same to me, is embarrassing when u tthrow everything but the kitchen sink, and they sit casting rofOriginally posted by EdGrrA life of frustration is inevitable for any player whose main enjoyment is winning and staying at the top.
Guild: #1 European Mighty Guild KINGSoKong
Server: Kongregate Europe 3 a.k.a Kong S5
Class: Mage
Currect Br: 61????
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Originally posted by Arlad View Postbut there are other sylphs with +20/30% damage buffs. which one do you think is more effective, 30% on 65k attack or -30% on enemy's 28k def?
yes, but the other attack oriented sylph, Amazon has 440% which is close enough. also it can hit 2 targets whereas gaia's can only hit 1.
and like what i said on my previous post, given correct conditions even the most basic skill can "1-shot" a knight with full HP.
ah this again. reminder that he said that no one has 1-shot HIM, not you. and your example weren't even really "1shot". or should i make another metaphor on your idea of "1shot"?
is 1 shot possible ? yes. but did he lie about his statement? there are no evidence on that.
now, we keep using knight as target example. what will happen if the same condition applied when facing an archer or a mage? do you really think that they will survive the scenario you mentioned?
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostIf the mage / archer involved has a basic common sense to use the super OP advanced guardian rune then they can survive whatever.
you think a max level adv guardian rune is a common thing, do you? it's far easier to find someone with 65k br hercules than someone with lvl 10 (regular)guardian rune.
i swear even if knight handed a nuclear bomb you will still complain about it.Originally posted by Wraithraiser
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Originally posted by Arlad View Postsometimes i think you are arguing just for the sake of argument itself.
you think a max level adv guardian rune is a common thing, do you? it's far easier to find someone with 65k br hercules than someone with lvl 10 (regular)guardian rune.
i swear even if knight handed a nuclear bomb you will still complain about it.
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostAnyone with a slightest bit of common sense would figure out that in EVERY PATCH, KNIGHTS HAVE BEEN SHAFTED IN ONE WAY OR THE ANOTHER, it's very obvious that knights are th emost undesirable class in the game and you have to be completely blind to deny that.
You can't compare classes when they fight each other, you will never get matched to someone with exactly the same play time, money spend, or time invested.
Also, BR isnt saying everything about the strenght of your toon.
Only places where the difference between classes are shown are in Skytrail, probably in gods descent as well, and that recently got leveled by removing the slow skill.
Does it really hurt that much to get your refined pet a few weeks later?
You talk about the top levels like an IKEBTY, but you should have stayed in the lvl 35 bg.
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