Rest in peace Sengolia

[Kayshah]

Hence my comment about any button click removing the afk timer, regardless of status.

I didn't quite understand u? I think u're saying the same thing as the ladder idea, to become vulnerable once u click something? That is good too as long as we're not sitting ducks at the spawn. Fine, remove immunity when we use a skill/click to move. I don t get the time to click though.

@Monophobia- I can't change how ppl pvp/afk i'm just trying to avoid that "noobies butchering" at spawn. Not sure how to so gathering ideas and hoping a dev will read our suggestions.

[MemoryLane]

I didn't quite understand u? I think u're saying the same thing as the ladder idea, to become vulnerable once u click something? That is good too as long as we're not sitting ducks at the spawn. Fine, remove immunity when we use a skill/click to move.

I was trying to say in my first post that immunity won't help. The moment you move, you would be attacked. So, sure, you would fully respawn and live for a couple seconds, but then you would move and die- especially if the camper is using aoes. I don't see how that helps with spawn killing at all.

Most people who complain about spawn killing are more upset about being kicked from seng because they can't move. My suggestion, which is far more reasonable than a safe zone or immunity, is to stop that clock from ticking with any button click, even while in the 10 second regen.

[Kkrazymen]

kayshah i think he meant that just clicking somewhere even if u are stuned and cant move would remove the afk clock cuz the game would know u are not afk because u actually did try to move

[Kayshah]

That would be good too in my books at least True, it won't help with the spawnkilling. If an ingame solution is not doable maybe issue a rule or a semi-rule about this? Like u don't get the kill credit if u spawnkill or something? In most cases all it would take would be an R2 official to say on forum that spawnkill is not a well-viewd practice or something similar. I do understand it's a pvp dungeon really. And i love pvping there. I think stopping this lame way of medals farming would be a good idea for R2g aswell as for the player base because a lot of players get frustrated and just move on to other games. Every1 knows i'm right with this statement. Personally I'd prefer open world pvp even on a PVE server, i wouldn't be pking lowbies anyway but that butchering of low levels and griefing them shouldn't be rewarded with "honor points". It's really not good ingame behaviour nor should it be rewardable.

The server I play on went thru a merge recently and spawnkilling and pking lowbies in seng and gr made many players leave. I hate to see the player base thinning cause of few "scions" that don't respect others. Just as a side note I wasn't pointing at scions only, others are starting to follow that bad example.


PS Thanks for detailing MemoryLane, i had few blonde moments there and my neurons needed detangling

[azurehaze]

Memory, that certainly would fix the AFK clock problem. I didn't even consider that as an option, I like it. I know the immunity wouldn't help at all prevent spawnkillers, but it at least solves the biggest problem with the spawn killing

[MemoryLane]

That would be good too in my books at least True, it won't help with the spawnkilling. If an ingame solution is not doable maybe issue a rule or a semi-rule about this? Like u don't get the kill credit if u spawnkill or something? In most cases all it would take would be an R2 official to say on forum that spawnkill is not a well-viewd practice or something similar. I do understand it's a pvp dungeon really. And i love pvping there. I think stopping this lame way of medals farming would be a good idea for R2g aswell as for the player base because a lot of players get frustrated and just move on to other games. Every1 knows i'm right with this statement. Personally I'd prefer open world pvp even on a PVE server, i wouldn't be pking lowbies anyway but that butchering of low levels and griefing them shouldn't be rewarded with "honor points". It's really not good ingame behaviour nor rewardable.

The server I play on went thru a merge recently and spawnkilling and pking lowbies in seng and gr made many players leave. I hate to see the player base thinning cause of few "scions" that don't respect others. Just as a side note I wasn't pointing at scions only, others are starting to follow that bad example.


PS Thanks for detailing MemoryLane, i had few blonde moments there and my neurons needed detangling

There is no rule about spawn killing. There are no rules about PVP that are not already ingame- such as safe zones in GR. R2 staff would never post not to spawn kill because it isn't a rule. If it was never meant to happen, there would already be a safe zone. As it is, you get 10 seconds to heal back up. It could dump you into the spawn area with next to no health, like in delivery.

Again, anything to do with modifying the spawn area will only encourage people to hide. Removing the medals still won't stop spawn camping- it may in fact cause more people to do it, because they will be mad about not getting medals from it and so will prevent everyone else from getting medals too.

I kill "lowbies" in battlegrounds. It's not my fault that they are lower leveled than I am. I'm also not going to stop and check out someone's level when I am trying to kill while avoiding being killed myself. Most of the time, I don't even look at the name of the person I'm attacking.

The people who leave merged servers because of bigger people being able to kill them/keep them killed are the lazy (that's right- Lazy) people who don't want to put in the effort to make their characters better. People think they will never get anywhere without a few badges and honor from Seng. There's only so far one can go in the game before there is no further to go. There is a cap on everything. Eventually all these lowbies will be right up there with all those people who were once slaughtering them. Guess what- before there even was a scion plane, these same things were still being complained about. Level 80s killing anyone lower than them were always accused of making people quit or not respecting other people. Before there was a level 80, the same complaints were made about the level 60s. The game won't die because a few people decide to leave over being killed in a battleground.

[ShadowGammaDraco]

i end up with the problem of people running back to their spawn zone just so i get gang banged by more ppl when they were about to die. but that also causes me to spawn camp sometimes since i aoe,, even when i'm double potting as a level 84 scion with purple and gold slayer gear i can't camp the spawn zone for more then a second or two if ppl actually fight. so i wouldn't want a safe zone. i've played before there were "scions" ruling everything. i started in a server where ppl were already level 50-60 and camping stuff. having DK's and angel lord wings or better with a few of the top ppl having aura or hellwing super fast. they still haven't been able to hold me back in terms of development. i just level'd up &farmed certain things then did some business managing to make money and invested it in various ways now i have aura and everything else too even a morphed angel pet. mean. i don't have everything but ya. i get by even w out doing gr, and when i did if i got hunted i just took off my armor and kept doing it, then putting stuff i wanted to keep in vault. especially this fragarach weapon. can easily get something stronger then a lv 80 slayer weap in just a few upgrades

[Buggsterer]

spawn killing..just a way for LOSERS to get a kill..they have no class or skill to get any in REAL battle so they have to stoop to that level..it should be stopped but cs has too much fun gettin complaints i guess

[ShadowGammaDraco]

spawn killing..just a way for LOSERS to get a kill..they have no class or skill to get any in REAL battle so they have to stoop to that level..it should be stopped but cs has too much fun gettin complaints i guess

to return to my previous statement. so i'm just supposed to let ppl run up & hit me when i'm conquering ur xtal the most awesome way for a mage to do then not fight back or chase them down after stunning me over and over? ppl trying to kill me and other ppl get killed in process in my case. kill or be killed. i usually die right after anyways too. everyone dies in seng

[Kayshah]

Memory, i don't wanna be mean or anything but those lazy people are "customers", paying or not.Ofc killing in seng is fine whatever the level but not the second they spawn, not sure how to make myself clear....They signed up for CS to have some fun. And shadowgamma, i went thru the same thing at start and i still made it to 60. I'll be a scion too if i don't get bored by 80 BUT i want a clean gaming environment. At lvl 100 and scion i still won t camp the spawn point. It's lame, it's not encouraging fair pvp. If the staff will choose to disregard the complaints or suggestion fine, as long as they know they might lose lots of customers over unsolved issues

[BrotherVT]

spawn killing..just a way for LOSERS to get a kill..they have no class or skill to get any in REAL battle so they have to stoop to that level..it should be stopped but cs has too much fun gettin complaints i guess

Technically, lots of people have been ending seng within 10 minutes tops.
Their main reason of Spawn Killing is just so they can farm Silver Badges within that small time frame.
I've been spawn camped plenty of times, myself, but I always seem to squirm away, heal up, stealth away, and start hunting some easy prey, myself.

[Yvonnekl2]

Yvonnek since u don't seem to understand my english very well let me rephrase it for u "ME CAN KILL U ANYTIME ME IS OP RANGER WITH BIG SCARY BOW" "ME WAS IN WINNING TEAM MANY TIMES, ME NO SPAWNKILL, ME WIN FAIR" "ME WANTS SMALL SAFEZONE IN SENGOLIA LIKE IN GR"

Also me has bad ping, i die before i can react. No staff can fix that so asking for a few seconds to move and prepare before i start pvping. That's all

wahahahah are you sure?

[Kayshah]

Pretty sure. I have no clue who u r ingame but even if u are top 3 i killed u at least once in seng (if u're even playing on the same server). I can assure u that i win fair when i do. Now
@Shadowgamma i think u guys should read the previous posts if u really want to understand what a thread is about. I think i repeated myself enough times but fine...repetitio mater studiorum....when i say spawn kill i don't mean "chasing someone at the spawn" "killing defenders" or any of those situations u presented. I was killed IN THE SAME SPOT WHERE I SPAWNED so many times that the game kicked me out of sengolia thinking i was afk. Do i get a consolation prize for my wasted time there? Cause i actually did play for 1-15 minutes before the spawnkilling started. Please stop throwing opinions without reading carefully first. It makes u look bad especially as forum mods. This thread spells clearly "suggestions" not "off-topic personal opinions about personal game goals".


Till now i can count 3 constructive suggestions and i hope (if a GM ever reads this thread) that they can filter thru so many pages of spam.

[MegaManBlitz]

When they were finally away from spawn i pressed the res button with the intention to collect my warrior pack and just stay dead after that. Most likely because i have been repeatedly stunshot-killed in the spawn point for few minutes i was KICKED out of sengolia

same exact damn thing happened to me man as soon as I resurrected after they stopped I was booted. Game Masters need to make sengs for different levels or for scicons or a portal/safe zone in seng that you can still bet booted if your near it but you cant be spawn killed.

[Yvonnekl2]

Pretty sure. I have no clue who u r ingame but even if u are top 3 i killed u at least once in seng (if u're even playing on the same server). I can assure u that i win fair when i do. Now
@Shadowgamma i think u guys should read the previous posts if u really want to understand what a thread is about. I think i repeated myself enough times but fine...repetitio mater studiorum....when i say spawn kill i don't mean "chasing someone at the spawn" "killing defenders" or any of those situations u presented. I was killed IN THE SAME SPOT WHERE I SPAWNED so many times that the game kicked me out of sengolia thinking i was afk. Do i get a consolation prize for my wasted time there? Cause i actually did play for 1-15 minutes before the spawnkilling started. Please stop throwing opinions without reading carefully first. It makes u look bad especially as forum mods. This thread spells clearly "suggestions" not "off-topic personal opinions about personal game goals".


Till now i can count 3 constructive suggestions and i hope (if a GM ever reads this thread) that they can filter thru so many pages of spam.

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