Rest in peace Sengolia

[venomeh]

if you think priest class is weak, make another non-priest char and you won't have the urge to complain about the squishyness and the low damage

It isn't an option after all the effort I've put on my char. Tried that tho..

[MrEvolve]

then make your character stronger, there are atleast 3 priests on my server that are quite unstoppable

[nubheals]

The situation is that priest class has the most amount of useless skills, and while all classes can instant stun/silence, all we have is a chanelling stun...
I haven't played knight or ranger, but I have played a lvl 100 mage and rogue, both with soul aura (beside my lvl 100 priest as main), so I understand how vulnerable a rogue is when out of stealth, as well as how squishy mage can be when attacked.
However, the squishiness of mage is not worse than priest (ice shield, blink), and rogue still has high dodge (100% dodge is achievable with vagabond swiftness, granting invulerability) to defend themselves. Priest can only try to run and kite while using the only decent attack skill: master light beam.
The main problem swith priests that I see are:
- Heal is useless in pvp situation when everyone can have 40% crit and can spam 100k+ crit
- Many skills we have is capped numerically, making them totally useless at high lvl (holy light, life drain, blood pact dps, passive +hp of blood tree)
- Blood priest can't max out the benefit of pvp equip set because they rely on attack speed, not cast speed
- And if priest is only for support, why do blood skills exist? Yes the holy side of priest might be fine as it is, even without holy light, but blood side of priest definitely needs some improvement to bring it on par with other classes in pvp

[venomeh]

then make your character stronger, there are atleast 3 priests on my server that are quite unstoppable

Probaby cashers & I'm trying..

The situation is that priest class has the most amount of useless skills, and while all classes can instant stun/silence, all we have is a chanelling stun...
I haven't played knight or ranger, but I have played a lvl 100 mage and rogue, both with soul aura (beside my lvl 100 priest as main), so I understand how vulnerable a rogue is when out of stealth, as well as how squishy mage can be when attacked.
However, the squishiness of mage is not worse than priest (ice shield, blink), and rogue still has high dodge (100% dodge is achievable with vagabond swiftness, granting invulerability) to defend themselves. Priest can only try to run and kite while using the only decent attack skill: master light beam.
The main problem swith priests that I see are:
- Heal is useless in pvp situation when everyone can have 40% crit and can spam 100k+ crit
- Many skills we have is capped numerically, making them totally useless at high lvl (holy light, life drain, blood pact dps, passive +hp of blood tree)
- Blood priest can't max out the benefit of pvp equip set because they rely on attack speed, not cast speed
- And if priest is only for support, why do blood skills exist? Yes the holy side of priest might be fine as it is, even without holy light, but blood side of priest definitely needs some improvement to bring it on par with other classes in pvp

THIS.

[MrEvolve]

priests are support, not meant for PVP and DPS, you can't complain about a support class not being able to kill, it's how it goes lol

[venomeh]

priests are support, not meant for PVP and DPS, you can't complain about a support class not being able to kill, it's how it goes lol

You think that it's fair that we have lowest attack/casting speed, lowest attack, and 2nd lowest defences with Slayer Set?

And then skills like this: Life Drains, drains max 1800 I think? hp from enemy, absolutely useless, same goes for Holy Lights ~420 hp every 2 sec. Another fail. Then while we already have lowest attack we get skills what doesn't even deal 100% of MATK, but 80% instead making our attacks even worse. Skill that gives more crit defence and crit defence seems to be bugged at first place. Skill that gives us was it like 3500 HP at lvl 5, seriously? Skill that stuns the enemy WHILE WE'RE CASTING IT. Bloodfog Totem that even max level won't stealth us right after using it, making Rangers for example be able to hit us before it even stealths. Buffs should give buffs to only party members, but still everyone around gets the buff. And Death Comet that still doesn't increase HP/MATK or give immunity to stun.

Still really think that nothing should be done to that all, can you honestly say that?

[MrEvolve]

yup, you knew priest wasn't a PVP class, if you wanted one, why'd you chose it?

[venomeh]

yup

You can't be serious..

[nubheals]

I'm gonna repeat myself, as you didn't seem to read my post: if priest is for support, why do blood skills exist? Choosing blood side means you sacrifice buffs and pure in heart, res, goddess embrace. This almost destroy the 'support' purpose of priest.

This is why I said, holy side, the support side, might be fine as it is even if holy light is ****. But blood side, the pvp/offensive side, definitely needs its skills fixed.

[MrEvolve]

You can't be serious..

why do you think so? because i know how most MMO games work and know that priests are always made for support? this is my opinion, you have your own... keep it for youself and next time you start playing a MMO game, and want a PVP or any other class... go look through the guides and see which one is the best for it

[nubheals]

why do you think so? because i know how most MMO games work and know that priests are always made for support? this is my opinion, you have your own... keep it for youself and next time you start playing a MMO game, and want a PVP or any other class... go look through the guides and see which one is the best for it

Ok let's evaluate on your point of view: priest is for support. Supporter means to buff/heal teammate or disable enemies. I will say that in a pvp situation, you can only do the buff / disable part, simple because heal is useless when you cast 1.5s heal for 30k heal and everyone but priest can instant cast a 100k crit. As for debuff, -25% atk or def is useless at late game because it is based on base stats. You do -1000 pdef in seng, how significant can that be against 20k patk? So all we have left is buff, and you think it's fair that a class can only use 1/3 of its potential in pvp, even though it's doing what it is meant to do?

And tell me how will blood priest support in pvp when you can't even buff? Support once every 30s with a channeling stun that any other class can do, and don't even have to channel, with lower cooldown? (ranger can't stun, but they can do instant silence that lasts even longer than stun).

You told venomeh to try out other classes before complaining, why don't you try making a blood priest before saying that the blood side of priests is fine?

[speeds16]

Just pointing out the situation, and yes becouse even you'd realize that some improvements NEEDS to be done to the class if you would open your eyes.

Sidenote: There is a GM response. So don't speak of something you don't know & mind your own business.

"just pointing out" in a thread of over 36 pages you're on almost every page. Same for this thread it's mostly you bashing on EVERYONE saying anything else than "we want stronger priests made possible by gm's!".

And tell me that GM response, if they gave you a conclusive response why are you still ranting on about priests on the forums for an hourly activity? I have a priest-character so this is also my business tyvm. I'm quite fine with them as they are, and I rather spend my time in the game working my *** up stronger than rant on the forums for months on end without any changes. Hell if you invested as much time in ranting as in creating a new char, you'd have overtaken yourself by now.

[venomeh]

"just pointing out" in a thread of over 36 pages you're on almost every page. Same for this thread it's mostly you bashing on EVERYONE saying anything else than "we want stronger priests made possible by gm's!".

And tell me that GM response, if they gave you a conclusive response why are you still ranting on about priests on the forums for an hourly activity? I have a priest-character so this is also my business tyvm. I'm quite fine with them as they are, and I rather spend my time in the game working my *** up stronger than rant on the forums for months on end without any changes. Hell if you invested as much time in ranting as in creating a new char, you'd have overtaken yourself by now.

Nice comeback, must admit that I didn't thought that you'd come up with something that good *clap clap* It wasn't conclusive response + I ain't "ranting on priests as an hourly activity" I just stated the situation that even random kids (as far as I can see) is laughing at our weakness and once again you decided to pick on me. And yeah you have a Priest alt, and you use it for what? Probably only to buff your main? Well obviously you then are fine as they are as long as they have the 3 buffs. And I usually come to forums when I have done my dungeons etc so that isn't the case. Yeah you're so right with this last one (not) think that I could get the same process done in 2 months what have taken me a year? Yea me neither.

[Hyorinmaru6]

priests are support, not meant for PVP and DPS, you can't complain about a support class not being able to kill, it's how it goes lol

wow u nailed the whole point which i was wanting to say too
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You think that it's fair that we have lowest attack/casting speed, lowest attack, and 2nd lowest defences with Slayer Set?

And then skills like this: Life Drains, drains max 1800 I think? hp from enemy, absolutely useless, same goes for Holy Lights ~420 hp every 2 sec. Another fail. Then while we already have lowest attack we get skills what doesn't even deal 100% of MATK, but 80% instead making our attacks even worse. Skill that gives more crit defence and crit defence seems to be bugged at first place. Skill that gives us was it like 3500 HP at lvl 5, seriously? Skill that stuns the enemy WHILE WE'RE CASTING IT. Bloodfog Totem that even max level won't stealth us right after using it, making Rangers for example be able to hit us before it even stealths. Buffs should give buffs to only party members, but still everyone around gets the buff. And Death Comet that still doesn't increase HP/MATK or give immunity to stun.

Still really think that nothing should be done to that all, can you honestly say that?

yes we can say that cause the terrible truth which many people hate cause most of the time it hurts is PRIESTS R NOT MEANT/MADE FOR KILLING OTHERS THEY WERE MEANT FOR HELPING OTHERS AND DYING AS NOBLE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN THEY WERE NEVER MEANT TO TAKE LIVES AND IF U GO TO A CHURCH U WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN UNLIKE THE OTHER PVP CLASS LIKE KNIGHT,ROGUES AND RANGERS WHO WERE MEANT TO KILL ON SIGHT

[venomeh]

wow u nailed the whole point which i was wanting to say too
and

yes we can say that cause the terrible truth which many people hate cause most of the time it hurts is PRIESTS R NOT MEANT/MADE FOR KILLING OTHERS THEY WERE MEANT FOR HELPING OTHERS AND DYING AS NOBLE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN THEY WERE NEVER MEANT TO TAKE LIVES AND IF U GO TO A CHURCH U WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN UNLIKE THE OTHER PVP CLASS LIKE KNIGHT,ROGUES AND RANGERS WHO WERE MEANT TO KILL ON SIGHT

k it's too much asked to have a skills what would benefit us tho? Like 1080 life drain is not gonna benefit anything, same goes for holylights, guess it's just too much asked to get those skills prosentually based so that those skills would actually have some usage instead of just being a waste of skillpoints.