Priest should change!

[R21865526]

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[allcode17]

DEFINE PRIEST IN SENGOLIA?
DEAD MEAT
2 HIT ONLY
CHICKEN SOUP
ROGUE FAVORITE FOOD
ADDITION POINTS in KILL
MOSQUITO BITE only

[venomeh]

Meh ican start a thread about how retribuition knights are underpowered and all. But honestly, really. Any character, any class, would kick *** with cash/time/effort put into it. You've seen priests out DPS rouges, rouges out DPS priests, tank outdps rouge? Mage out dps rouge? even ranger. It just depends on your gear, and cash you spend in your character. Ofc, if 2 people, with the same gear and same soul, I think Knights or rouge would come out as stronger. Just because rouge can just stealth and sneak up on mage/priest/ranger and kill them before stuns run out. Tanks because that overpowered dragonhook, IMO all tanks should max out. Hook, stun, spam skills and shockblade. =Dead anyone but tanks with higher pdef than myself.

k lemme say this once more, you think that it's fair that we have lowest attack/casting speed, lowest attack, and 2nd lowest defences with Slayer Set?

And then skills like this: Life Drains, drains max 1800 I think? hp from enemy, absolutely useless, same goes for Holy Lights ~420 hp every 2?! sec. Another fail. Then while we already have lowest attack we get skills what doesn't even deal 100% of MATK, but 80% instead making our attacks even worse. Skill that gives more crit defence and crit defence seems to be bugged at first place. Skill that gives us was it like 3500 HP at lvl 5, seriously? Skill that stuns the enemy WHILE WE'RE CASTING IT. Bloodfog Totem that even max level won't stealth us right after using it, making Rangers for example be able to hit us before it even stealths. Buffs should give buffs to only party members, but still everyone around gets the buff. And Death Comet that still doesn't increase HP/MATK or give immunity to stun.

Now you'll probably realize why am I here trying to get somekinda improvement to the class. And starting from scratch isn't an option after all the effort I've put into my character.

[123asd1]

Yea okay, priests need a buff. R2 should really, really consider it. But then again, people like this really give priests hope.

[venomeh]

Yea okay, priests need a buff. R2 should really, really consider it. But then again, people like this really give priests hope.

Thanks for understanding And seems like they're atleast trying to do so yet still Death Comet & Life Drains are bugged.

[Greendaryl]

Well,priest is a support character.This is just my opinion,in reality, priest don't fight,they support,they heal and give guidance.

[venomeh]

Well,priest is a support character.This is just my opinion,in reality, priest don't fight,they support,they heal and give guidance.

Time to quote myself lol..

If only for support, then why holylights are epicly messed up? Why do we then have Blood tree? We haven't been asking priest to be top dps class... yeah it's true we can solo dungeons earlier than others, but later you'll be able to do that as well and 2x faster than us. Why shouldn't we mention that we have 2nd lowest deffs with Slayer Set while still having low damage output, if nothing will/can be done to our skills couldn't defence readjusting be an option to balance the class a bit? How would it be unfair if some improvements to the class would be made?

[dizy07]

Ahh, so many things on that threat.
ShadowGammaDraco, can you kill a Priest Scion your level ? (Level 90 it was I think ?)

Anyway, a mage friend of mine went to check on SOH the mages' skills, and apparently, their skills in this version aren't much more different than the ones in this other version. So why did R2 change so much our skills ? And not only one or two, but several of them ?
I know we are support. Anyway I like being support. I like healing, buffing, cursing to help my team members, and all. But let's say: it's the only thing we can do.
Sure we can join Seng, but we can't compete with people our levels (talking about lvl 100 Scions). So what, we shouldn't have chose a Priest ? Because I chose a Priest, a more support toon, I shouldn't be able to do Seng or Realm ?
Even with same or slightly better MATK than mages, I'd die simply because they have more skills meant to kill. They have more attack skills, more spammable skills. I heal half what he's taking out of me, what I'm supposed to do ? Just stay there, accept the fact that I'll always die, even with slightly better stats and that's it ? Let's say that I have more heal than MATK, I'm way more a healer. And even as a healer I can't survive.
Then tell me what I'm supposed to do ? Not do any PvP event anymore ? Keep "bullying" lower levels only ?

We have skills that help us regen our HP: what's the point if our heals aren't strong enough to make us survive ? Sure everybody envies us our AB... We regen 10% HP every 10 seconds. A good mage can 1-3 shots me. AB sure helps, but it doesn't make up for all the other things we're lacking.
We have buffs: let me say that it's totally unfair that others get buffed in Realm. Simple example: last time I was beating this rogue, he couldn't catch up to me. Then a Priest full buffed him: he gained 3 places. "That's the game" ? Then I want mages' and Knights' buffs too ! I don't see why Priests should support everybody in individual events too.
Then attacks... Our attacks simply don't deal as much damages as others' classes skills. Even Blood Tree which is supposed to be a DPS tree isn't that much DPS. They don't deal that much damages, they aren't actually that good for DPS.

just face the fact priests have no chance in avernal unless they spend alot of money to up their char higher then the other characters and even then still might not be able to steal 1st-3rd place, the buffs say everyone in party just like battle humn for knight say but still instead of liek the knight buff wich only party memebers get it, priest buffs are given to everyone regardless if they are in party or not; so all the other classes get more rewarded in events like this(individual) in the end, hard to farm silvers in sengolia if a few knights/rogues "hunt" you in there from rival guild keeping you from farming them cos you cant even take them out even tough you got almost double or more stats then they have, crypt unbalanced to because mage rogue knight or ranger with high dps take the boss out b4 you can even land a hit(noone wants to make party's at higher lvls -just a fact- not even at lower lvls either, you get more stuff done if you solo, so priest as support kind of failes once a few players get high enough stats, they only good at ladder as suport after that and thats it.), soo all the other classes get faster upgrades soul and stuff cos priest just cant make it in individual events(dps based).

[Chilkoot]

@123asd1 - that's fake hope, if arcilite were to fight against an equally stacked char of ANY OTHER CLASS, arcilite would just get his *** whopped xD

[Sakura`Kinomoto]

just face the fact priests have no chance in avernal unless they spend alot of money to up their char higher then the other characters and even then still might not be able to steal 1st-3rd place, the buffs say everyone in party just like battle humn for knight say but still instead of liek the knight buff wich only party memebers get it, priest buffs are given to everyone regardless if they are in party or not; so all the other classes get more rewarded in events like this(individual) in the end, hard to farm silvers in sengolia if a few knights/rogues "hunt" you in there from rival guild keeping you from farming them cos you cant even take them out even tough you got almost double or more stats then they have, crypt unbalanced to because mage rogue knight or ranger with high dps take the boss out b4 you can even land a hit(noone wants to make party's at higher lvls -just a fact- not even at lower lvls either, you get more stuff done if you solo, so priest as support kind of failes once a few players get high enough stats, they only good at ladder as suport after that and thats it.), soo all the other classes get faster upgrades soul and stuff cos priest just cant make it in individual events(dps based).

Actually, I go to Avernal and I get 4th or 5th place depending on what level the mage/rogue is, also my stats arent great, but yet I still manage to get 4th or 5th palce.

[R297807]

I'm a lvl 100 Scion Hybrid Priest myself, and I rely on Blood Beam, Blood Pact, and the 3 curses for DPS in PvP. I agree that Priests definitely need Attack Speed also, seeing as how most Blood Priest skills rely on it. For example, by the time I can get another lvl 100 ranger to half hp, I'm already dead mainly because of their high attack speed. I believe it will make Priests more balanced with the other classes . I don't think they're that much weaker than other classes though.

In most lvl 100 pvp battles, battles only last a few seconds. To give Priests a fair chance against other classes, they have Goddess' Embrace; one of the best skills (only downside being the cooldown) as you can bypass all damage for a few seconds (10 seconds at lvl 5).

-Against Shadow Rogues: Use Goddess' Embrace the moment they're about to stun you to escape (as for combat, to avoid Decimation)
-Against Knights: Knights with lvl 5 Drag are pesky, but use Embrace the moment they drag you to escape their stun/shock blade, and proceed kiting
-Against Rangers: Prevent Charm/ Traps with Embrace, rest of the fight involving who has better DPS (Bringing me back to the point above)
-Against Mages: Stops the stun effect from meteor with Embrace, Rest of the fight involving better DPS
-Against fellow Priests: Takes off the curse effects

For kiting: When you try to kite a Knight/Rogue, in-between every curse, try to attack in between each curses. For Example: Curse of weakness, then proceed with Blood Beam/Blood Pact, then Ring of Decay and proceed with another attack, etc. It helps wither down tanks/dodgy Rogues.

In 1 vs 1 fights, this gives Priests (that aren't full Blood) a chance to fight evenly with other classes, and in instances like Seng, can allow you to handle tricky situations like being trapped in curses or escaping from multiple players coming from different directions (happens very often in Seng for me ^^). As for DPS though, many Priests decide to use Light Beam rather than Blood Beam because of the low attack speed, but I think that since the other classes have so many DPS attacks, they should change it so Priests can have both attack speed/casting speed (for example, Orange Slayer Staff has 7% Casting Speed, you could split the % into 3.5% Attack and 3.5% Casting).

This is just my opinion though, and the way I pvp . I do hope they make changes to my favorite class ^^.

[venomeh]

I'm a lvl 100 Scion Hybrid Priest myself, and I rely on Blood Beam, Blood Pact, and the 3 curses for DPS in PvP. I agree that Priests definitely need Attack Speed also, seeing as how most Blood Priest skills rely on it. For example, by the time I can get another lvl 100 ranger to half hp, I'm already dead mainly because of their high attack speed. I believe it will make Priests more balanced with the other classes . I don't think they're that much weaker than other classes though.

In most lvl 100 pvp battles, battles only last a few seconds. To give Priests a fair chance against other classes, they have Goddess' Embrace; one of the best skills (only downside being the cooldown) as you can bypass all damage for a few seconds (10 seconds at lvl 5).

-Against Shadow Rogues: Use Goddess' Embrace the moment they're about to stun you to escape (as for combat, to avoid Decimation)
-Against Knights: Knights with lvl 5 Drag are pesky, but use Embrace the moment they drag you to escape their stun/shock blade, and proceed kiting
-Against Rangers: Prevent Charm/ Traps with Embrace, rest of the fight involving who has better DPS (Bringing me back to the point above)
-Against Mages: Stops the stun effect from meteor with Embrace, Rest of the fight involving better DPS
-Against fellow Priests: Takes off the curse effects

For kiting: When you try to kite a Knight/Rogue, in-between every curse, try to attack in between each curses. For Example: Curse of weakness, then proceed with Blood Beam/Blood Pact, then Ring of Decay and proceed with another attack, etc. It helps wither down tanks/dodgy Rogues.

In 1 vs 1 fights, this gives Priests (that aren't full Blood) a chance to fight evenly with other classes, and in instances like Seng, can allow you to handle tricky situations like being trapped in curses or escaping from multiple players coming from different directions (happens very often in Seng for me ^^). As for DPS though, many Priests decide to use Light Beam rather than Blood Beam because of the low attack speed, but I think that since the other classes have so many DPS attacks, they should change it so Priests can have both attack speed/casting speed (for example, Orange Slayer Staff has 7% Casting Speed, you could split the % into 3.5% Attack and 3.5% Casting).

This is just my opinion though, and the way I pvp . I do hope they make changes to my favorite class ^^.

Mmh that's how it works, however Goddess' Embrace only gives immunity to debuffs, you can't bypass damage with it. Also if you go face to face with AM Ranger / who's at the same point as you you'll lose for sure if they know at all how to play. The Rogue part I didn't get, it's possible to prevent Shadow Rogues stun without knowing when it'll happen? o_o Also this is just how I fight except using Master Light Beam instead of Master Blood Beam, just for the sake of higher crits & (Master) Blood Beam against tanks is a joke.

[Zatemo]

Mmh that's how it works, however Goddess' Embrace only gives immunity to debuffs, you can't bypass damage with it. Also if you go face to face with AM Ranger / who's at the same point as you you'll lose for sure if they know at all how to play. The Rogue part I didn't get, it's possible to prevent Shadow Rogues stun without knowing when it'll happen? o_o Also this is just how I fight except using Master Light Beam instead of Master Blood Beam, just for the sake of higher crits & (Master) Blood Beam against tanks is a joke.

not to mention that knights can remove our goddess's embrace "buff" (not saying knight's buff removal is a debuff).

[tajmahal62]

Not being a priest im not aware of the ISSUES u guys are haveing but being in the 4th longest standing server i cant see a problem with priests. Being a member of the wilterlands there are many lvl 100scions, some priests and very few can beat them. One particular priest (healer) only has trouble beating a handful of people. There are ways of becoming better.

[venomeh]

Not being a priest im not aware of the ISSUES u guys are haveing but being in the 4th longest standing server i cant see a problem with priests. Being a member of the wilterlands there are many lvl 100scions, some priests and very few can beat them. One particular priest (healer) only has trouble beating a handful of people. There are ways of becoming better.

Those are most likely cashers then.