Debating returning to EWD

[R27560757SpeeDHunter]

Why would a higher level Ruthlessness lead to losing damage? Is the case that the floating damage value should not supercede the EWD? I.E. level 7 with 1% astral slot for 50% float?

Or maybe 40%? Since float is 10% by default?

if your EWD is lvl 10 and ruthlessness is also lvl 10 it leads to losing dmg or the term Leak.
50% EWD + 70% float, means you can deal higher up to 120% dmg to -20% dmg. the lower the ruth's level the better, lvl 3 is my suggest level.

and crit build is also good since we have sylphs now. you might consider that.

[laba-laba]

Can you please detail why the Ruthlessness astral should be a low level. I have been unable to get solid advice.

I've tested with a level 10 ruthlessness, the range for herc delphic (with 80k matk) is between 2M and 20k damage. Believe it or not.

[Brutal_Hobo]

I've tested with a level 10 ruthlessness, the range for herc delphic (with 80k matk) is between 2M and 20k damage. Believe it or not.

yeah i think threll said something like that
one of his attacks hit for 200k, and then the next one hit for like 20k
i didnt believe it at first
but thats a huge range

[ATreeTopper]

Got rid of Ruthlessness because of the bizarre damage variations after lvl 5. Most of the time wound up doing much less damage than any other astral in its place. It's great for Crit builds when it peaks, but tends to be middle of the road to the suck when you do less damage with a sylph delphic than a normal skill for your class.

EWD's main advantage is to boost overall damage (or healing) using only one astral, where Crit builds need generally Determination and Crit astrals to be effective. For archer a heal critical also activates the damage boosting passive (like when Rain Dance is used).

[pietjeprecies]

yeah i think threll said something like that
one of his attacks hit for 200k, and then the next one hit for like 20k
i didnt believe it at first
but thats a huge range

If you know the game well enough, you know the positive outcome from that damage appears to be there where you dont need it,
while the negative one appears when you do need a huge hit.

Kinda the same with regeneration giving you 50k hp when you;re still on full hp 3 times in a row....

[Brutal_Hobo]

If you know the game well enough, you know the positive outcome from that damage appears to be there where you dont need it,
while the negative one appears when you do need a huge hit.

Kinda the same with regeneration giving you 50k hp when you;re still on full hp 3 times in a row....

lol yeah i know that all too well
when i was beating necro
all i had to cupcake do was crit on the last hit
5 days in a row i tried, i was doing everything right
my delphic wouldnt crit, or my attack at the end to kill wouldnt crit
then when i finally did beat it
my internet died or something and when i came back on 2 hours later it had kicked me from necro

[pietjeprecies]

lol yeah i know that all too well
when i was beating necro
all i had to cupcake do was crit on the last hit
5 days in a row i tried, i was doing everything right
my delphic wouldnt crit, or my attack at the end to kill wouldnt crit
then when i finally did beat it
my internet died or something and when i came back on 2 hours later it had kicked me from necro

We had the same beating spire yesterday, all 4 non crit on last wrath feeded delphic, so we didnt make it.

[R27560757SpeeDHunter]

I've tested with a level 10 ruthlessness, the range for herc delphic (with 80k matk) is between 2M and 20k damage. Believe it or not.

you put Ruthlessness to crit right? then 70% negative float is inevitable. EWD minimizes the negative float that's why i prefer using EWD and Ruth and putting it at low level than Crit build, yeah you can deal higher dmg with crit-ruth but you wont be happy with leak float dmg. trust me you wont hahaha

alot of ppl doesnt understand Ruth, hope this help

[pietjeprecies]

alot of ppl doesnt understand Ruth, hope this help

Well, I understand how it works, I just fail to see the use of it.

[laba-laba]

you put Ruthlessness to crit right? then 70% negative float is inevitable. EWD minimizes the negative float that's why i prefer using EWD and Ruth and putting it at low level than Crit build, yeah you can deal higher dmg with crit-ruth but you wont be happy with leak float dmg. trust me you wont hahaha

alot of ppl doesnt understand Ruth, hope this help

I had a 75% ruthlessness from refine as well.

That's the weird thing. for crit it was = (damage x crit_multiplier) x floatiness
but for wd = damage x (multiplier +- floatiness) which is quite unfair.

[R27560757SpeeDHunter]

Well, I understand how it works, I just fail to see the use of it.

good for your if you understand, btw the "help" i meant is for the OP,
seems you dont need advise tho XD

[R27560757SpeeDHunter]

I had a 75% ruthlessness from refine as well.

That's the weird thing. for crit it was = (damage x crit_multiplier) x floatiness
but for wd = damage x (multiplier +- floatiness) which is quite unfair.

well 2M crit-ruth dmg is quite unfair too than the dmg EWD-ruth can deal

[pietjeprecies]

good for your if you understand, btw the "help" i meant is for the OP,
seems you dont need advise tho XD

Haha, i actually hoped you're gonna tell me where and when lvl 10 ruthles is useful.

[DanteMugetsu]

I had a 75% ruthlessness from refine as well.

That's the weird thing. for crit it was = (damage x crit_multiplier) x floatiness
but for wd = damage x (multiplier +- floatiness) which is quite unfair.

can u give an example to explain it a bit further, because i just woke up and i try to see what you mean but i fail miserably?

[Yesheron]

you put Ruthlessness to crit right? then 70% negative float is inevitable. EWD minimizes the negative float that's why i prefer using EWD and Ruth and putting it at low level than Crit build, yeah you can deal higher dmg with crit-ruth but you wont be happy with leak float dmg. trust me you wont hahaha

alot of ppl doesnt understand Ruth, hope this help

No, I still don't understand. Please explain this thoroughly. No, I'm not trolling, I just don't really follow what you are saying.